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INSANE ARMS WORKOUT!!!!!! I DARE U!

Shaolin_911
Shaolin_911
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2003/02/04, 10:30 AM
I dare someone to try this out if they got the time. Check it out!

http://www.testosterone.net/html/30odac.html

pretty crazy workout.
bb1fit
bb1fit
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2003/02/04, 12:08 PM
This is by Charles Poliquin. He is a famed trainer, strength coach. His principles are right on. I have tried to use them in my workouts as much as possible. It would do anyone no harm to pick up his book, The Poiquin Principles. Great stuff, and you will not go wrong following them!

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Xphobicas
Xphobicas
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2003/02/04, 01:57 PM
Wouldn't this be huge overtraining?
mackfactor
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2003/02/04, 01:02 PM
There's a few articles (a two part series, I believe) as well about Polquin's Principles at T-Mag as well. Great reading at that site with articles from guys like Polquin, Charles Staley, Ian King, Jon Berardi and Lonnie Lowery. Those are all big time coaches.

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bb1fit
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2003/02/04, 01:08 PM
Xphobicas, your question is right on. You are thinking. In most cases, yes. If you did this over any extended period, yes it would be. Sometimes a little "overtraining" is just what the body needs to shock it beyond its normal capacities. Some days, you know you just "feel it?"


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mackfactor
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2003/02/04, 01:13 PM

In most cases, yes. However, this is meant to be a single day routine, not part of a program. You'll annihilate your arms, but then with adequate rest (don't expect to do anything involving your arms for a week - Polquin doesn't mention that) It will achieve the desired result. Overtraining generally deals more with frequency than volume. The basis of weight training is to achieve 'the training effect.' This is when the muscles, after being weakened and damaged through training, attempt to adapt by growing larger and stronger in the following days. However, when a workout is finished and adequate recovery is not provided, that is when overtraining occurs. You muscles end up getting attacked while they are still in a weakened state and it actually sets you back. A single, very high volume rountine would not constitute overtraining provided you allow ample recovery time.

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Wouldn't this be huge overtraining?
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sandysford
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2003/02/04, 02:32 PM
Woo Woo I am so excited, this sounds so cool to me that I talked my husband into taking me through it. Not this Saturday but the next (I have to go to my grandaughter's birthday party this weekend) Printing it out as we speak and I will let you know how it goes!!!!!! I love new stuff!!!!

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mackfactor
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2003/02/04, 04:27 PM
wahwahjimi - this routine is at a magazine that is decidedly hardcore, especially in its earlier days when that article was printed. That routine was not designed for novice trainees. I would venture to say someone without the requisite amount of weight training experience would overload on this program and have a high injury risk. Until your muscles are ready to take that kind of shock, I'd shelf it. Start with compound movements and you'll work your way towards something like this. I would definately not recommend this routine to 80% of the people on this board - including myself.

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Shaolin_911
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2003/02/04, 06:34 PM
Glad u like it sandy! tell me how it goes when ur done with it! Are u going to be doing this in a public gym, or do u have ur own gym?

Im thinkin of doing it during the summer when i have enough time and am ready for it. Seems pretty intense but very cool.
lewdog_55
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2003/02/04, 07:58 PM
My question is do you do both Program A and Program B or do you choose one of them???
Shaolin_911
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2003/02/04, 09:26 PM
both of them!
sandysford
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2003/02/05, 04:46 AM
Doing it at the gym, next saturday, I will let you know how it goes.

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mrmagical
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2003/02/05, 12:03 PM
I just dont get the tempo thing whats that about besides speed?
Shaolin_911
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2003/02/05, 07:43 PM
tempo is for example, lets say it sayd 112, the first 1 would mean u bring the weight up in one second, the second 1 would mean u hold the weight up for another 1 second, and the 2 means u bring the weight back down in 2 seconds.
Shaolin_911
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2003/02/06, 05:39 PM
is the first number when u lift? or when u lower?
i dont remember anymore!
cardinal
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2003/02/22, 09:18 AM
has anybody done this yet? it sounds hard, but i wanna try. i want to know if it has worked for anybody yet.
Shaolin_911
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2003/02/23, 02:30 AM
I think me and my bro are gunna try it out in a month or so when we borrow the equipment to do it at home. But the problem is the whole nutrition, we would need to go shopping b4 doing it.
cardinal
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2003/02/23, 09:11 AM
me and a few of my friends are gonna do it at the beginning of summer, when we have enough free time to recover. yea, the nutrition part asks for a lot of stuff we dont have. i dont know if i would follow the eating plan just as it says.
mackfactor
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2003/02/24, 02:24 PM
As far as tempo - the first is lowering time in seconds, the second is a the pause at the bottom in seconds and the third is concentric or lifting time in seconds.
Again keep in mind that this routine was designed for very experienced trainees. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who has not been comsistently lifting for more than a year. This isn't something that some guy just threw together for fun.
Also, cardinal, there's a reason why the routine includes a menu. The workout is designed to work synergistically with the nutrition program. You take that aspect out and you lose 50% of the program. Ignoring that negates the whole point.
Remember, all, just because a training program looks cool doesn't mean you should pick it up and try it. Take a few steps back and consider whether it is optimal for you. The routine was designed mainly for folks who have plateaued - have you? Unless you've been in the iron game a few years, you probably have not.

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guinnesscub
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2004/01/20, 04:09 PM
Hey All,
Just wanted to see if any of you guys/gals have taken this challenge yet--seems like a few showed interested and I would love to see how it worked out. I'm planning on taking this upcoming Saturday, the 24th to do it.
Cheers!
-Miguel
goldengloves
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2004/01/20, 04:41 PM
I want to try this pretty bad actually it is really tempting considering I would love to have bigger arms but I dont want to derail the workout I just started so I will hold off until I start seeing results from my current workout and since it only takes 5 days *supposedly* I make sure I have that much time to recuperate 1st.
howdiekat
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2004/06/05, 11:33 AM
bump for mikald79:dumbbell:

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xtacyx64
xtacyx64
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2004/11/15, 02:42 AM
The article is gone. = (
JustinE22
JustinE22
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2004/11/15, 04:55 PM
Do a search on google for "the one day arm cure by Charles Poliquin"
Junior87
Junior87
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2004/11/17, 10:10 PM
I was wondering if any of you could help me with a wait lifting plan that will work really good?:big_smile:
anahat
anahat
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2009/11/11, 01:04 PM

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