Group: Specific Diets & Nutrition

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good 'average day' cutting diet?

Amurige
Amurige
Posts: 9
Joined: 2003/04/26
Netherlands
2003/05/19, 01:59 PM
Hey to all.....

Just want people to take a look at my current diet.
my goal is to bring my BF% down and keeping the muscles on....Own diets, opinions or tips are welcome :)

Meal 1: Cup of oatmeal/cup of Muesli

Meal 2: Can of tuna 140g and a sliced tomato

Meal 3: Baked omelette (5 eggwhites) in oliveoil

Meal 4: Baked chicken breast 150 g with some baked veggies

Meal 5: Protein shake with milk and oatmeal (post work-out)


Well....that's it I guess......
gwindalyn
gwindalyn
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2003/05/19, 03:53 PM
What is your current height, weight, age, sex, BF%?

It's very hard to tell if your current meals are healthy or not unless we know your current situation. Everything "seems" to be healthy food. But quantities, etc may be off depending on your current stats. What else is in that omelette beside eggs?

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Amurige
Amurige
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2003/05/19, 04:57 PM
Ah ok sorry.........

Height: 186 cm...that makes 6'2 I believe?
weight: 85 kg....so thats 187 pounds
age: 21
sex: male
BF : 15%


and for the omelette.....sometimes also a sliced tomato, just like the tuna:)
bb1fit
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2003/05/19, 08:41 PM
I would definitely add some protein to your first meal, say 5 eggwhites and 1/2 cup cottage cheese. Will fill in your protein void there nicely. And add some omlette veggies to that meal 3 omlette. On your meal 4 you may want to swap the veggies or even add a 5 oz. sweet potato to this meal. It is your pre training meal apparently, not much to train on. I would think your workouts would be deteriorating pretty rapidly on that diet. Your other alternative would be to go to a couple of 6 th carb up meals, at 15% bf, this may not be a bad idea. You would drop the oatmeal from meal 1 and 5, and add the carb meals. But you would add about 2 cups of veggies or salad to your other meals. But any way it goes, add the protein to your first meal.

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Amurige
Amurige
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Joined: 2003/04/26
Netherlands
2003/05/20, 06:29 AM
Ok, so just to summarize:

Meal 1: 5 eggwhite with 1/2 cup cottage cheese

Meal 2: can tuna with sliced tomato

Meal 3: 5 eggwhite with veggies

Meal 4: Chicken breast with baked potato or rice

xxxxxxxWorkoutxxxxxxx

Meal 5: Proteine shake with milk


Couple of questions here:

I heard about preworkout > low carb, high protein meal
and postworkout > medium carb, high protein meal

Is this true??

Also when you talk I might need a 6th carb up meal, because my BF% is 15%, do you mean it's too high or too low??

I've just started to get into this nutrition thing wich seems to be very important when working out..:)

Thanx in advance
bb1fit
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2003/05/21, 09:40 AM
On meal 4, make sure that is a sweet potato and not a white potato, or brown rice,not white. Also, as an alternative, a cup of black beans or kidney beans would be good. After your post workout shake, it may be advisable to get in a whole food meal also. Even just some cottage cheese, for slow absorbtion before bed, and maybe even 3-5 eggwhites. As far as the carb meals, they are meant for a couple purposes, but if you do your diet this way you outlined, you will not need them yet. You can employ them when you make your next calorie cut. These work toward the end of your diet, you are still getting enough good carbs that would not warrant this yet. get a bit leaner.

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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.

Ron
brabohue
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Malaysia
2003/05/22, 04:11 AM
hi..juz a question since we are on the topic of meals : bb1fit why a sweet potato and not a white potato... ive read that white potatoes are rather high in the glycemic index but aren't sweet potatoes the same?

And amurige : looking from ur meal plans (the first one u posted :) u have cut off ur carbohydrates quite a bit...tell me do u feel like ur hungry all the time??...i know i do.. im currently eating a similar diet like urs and somehow after finishing that last spoonful of oatmeal and tuna...its as if ive not eaten anything LOL
bb1fit
bb1fit
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2003/05/22, 10:35 AM
You are right, white potatos are high on the glycemic scale. That is why I suggested he ditch them in favor of sweet potatoes. His goal apparently is to lose bf. Keep insulin levels low, sweet potatoes are a much better choice. Plus fiber.



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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.

Ron
Amurige
Amurige
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2003/05/22, 02:05 PM
Hmz, strange.... the post before my, is from myself....but I am called null here...
bb1fit
bb1fit
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2003/05/23, 12:41 PM
Carbs supply your main stores of glycogen. If deprived of them, the body is forced to try to get its supply elsewhere, prefferably for us from fat, butif given inadequate amounts of protein, it will break down tissue for amino acids and burn BCAA's from the muscle to produce glycogen. This is why it is hard to do these diets for very long. The body needs glycogen not only for muscle, but brain function, everything we do basically. If you are low bodyfat right now, and insist on staying on this diet, it may be time to incorporate a couple carb meals for this very reason, one, glycogen storage, and two, keep metabolism honest. If you are not at a low bf, then you can still diet successfully without doing a carbless diet. The RIGHT kind of carbs will serve your purpose, and can't possibly put on fat. Fibrous carbs are the order. Carbs are not the enemy as made out to be, but the types of carbs. Extremes can be very detrimental.

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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.

Ron
mackfactor
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2003/06/14, 03:37 AM
I know of several folks that have used a reduced carb diet (sub 100g) for extended periods of time with great results. The key was a refeed day once a week where they boosted their carb and calorie intake to bulking levels in order to replenish glycogen. From what I've heard, it works remarkably well to keep glycogen levels up and to maintain metabolism at higher rates. I've experimented with it myself, but never for more than 2 weeks at a time.

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