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triceps kinesiology

plfitness
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2003/05/25, 10:30 PM
Does any one have any info on grip variance and targeting the individual heads of the triceps. I have recieved info from a good source that there is no physiological difference between various grips but I don't understand what the cause for the difference in strength output for nuetral & underhand grips versus an overhand grip?
jbennett
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2003/05/25, 11:43 PM
Honestly, you don't need a kinesiology degree to figure it out. Try a few sets of skullcrushers, close-grip presses, cable pressdowns, etc and make 'em burn to the point you think you'll catch on fire. The next day, see where your triceps are sore. On your next tricep day, change your grip and do the same. That's how you can tell it actually does pay to change your grip every once in a while.

As for the strength difference, its pretty simple. When more bigger, stronger muscles are involved in a particular exercise, you can usually move more weight around. When smaller stabilizer muscles start getting involved (like when using an underhand grip), it gets harder. Most people can leg press a heck of a lot more weight than they can squat. Reason: no stabilizer muscles are needed to assist with balance when performing the leg press. My $0.02.....

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plfitness
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2003/05/26, 01:26 AM
Thanks for the reply,you brought up a very good point. There is a big difference between training a muscle for general size & atrength and training for functional strength at various angles. From this conclusion I would have to believe that the primary focus should be on the over hand movement with the varied grip movements as support exercises to increase overall functional strength. Any thoughts?

P.L
bb1fit
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2003/05/26, 09:46 AM
The tricep, though 3 heads, is still tied in at one point together, and it is actually very hard to isolste one head as opposed to another. By varying grip and angles, you can do this somewhat. Your best bet is to do compound tri movements that hit the overall tricep first in your workout, while you can go heaviest while stronger like JB mentioned...i.e. skull crushers, close grip benches, etc., and finish off with an exercise each time that changes the grip some, a more isolation movement like one arm behind the head tri raises, or kickbacks. Your second post is very good, you are right on the money on your thinking.

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plfitness
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2003/05/26, 02:09 PM
Thanks alot guys, I have been pondering that one for quite some time.

P.L