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2003/06/22, 01:08 PM
Hi, I was told that No2 is being compared to creatine and that it will soon replace creatine bc it does not make you retain water. I have not taken but am considering it... I am a woman who has a hard time putting on muscle and want something to help. I don't want to be super bulky but want more muscle. ?????
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2003/06/22, 02:11 PM
DONT'T waste your money on this junk product. There is absolutley no credible science backing this product. Nothing will be replacing creatine any time soon, and I think that the NO2 craze is wearing off, it's been out for about a year already. Creatine does make you retain water, BUT IN THE MUSCLE! and not directly under the skin where people think. Don't fall for the marketing BS and stick to a product (creatine) that has been around for over 10 years and has been proven time and time again in countless scientific studies.
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2003/06/22, 02:59 PM
Right on dahayz. I've tried it and the only thing it did was reduce the bulge in my wallet. littledude, stick with what is proven, creatine protein and hard work.
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2003/07/09, 02:11 PM
The active ingrediant in NO2 is L-Arginine, a complex amino acid. L-Arginine stimulates the growth hormone, and allows you to recover faster by pumping blood into the muscle instead of water (like creatine). If you live in the states, you can buy L-Arginine on its own, in Canada we can't because we have stricter FDA laws.
If you do a search on net for L-Arginine, you'll find tons of research that has been published in scientific journals saying that it increases muscle mass and sex drive. I haven't tried it so can't comment.
Hope this helps.
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2003/07/09, 09:55 PM
If you are on a diet, NO2 works well. It will lighten your wallet considerably.
And L-Arginine is very good stacked with HMB. Great pumps. Great strength gains.
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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.
Ron
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2003/07/10, 08:11 AM
BB1fit...
Are aware of any side effects of taking L-Arginine? If its supposed to work so well, why doesn't anybody use it? Or why don't we ever hear of anyone using it?
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2003/07/10, 01:13 PM
The only side effect I know of is if you are prone to fever blisters, then you may get more of them. The other is the dosage is fairly large to really have the optimal effect.
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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.
Ron
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2003/07/11, 07:26 PM
NO2
Description: NO2 is a powerful growth-enhancing, performance-enhancing hemodilator. It is specifically designed to increase size, vascularity, strength, endurance, power output, and load capacity. With its hemodilating effect, NO2 generates a virtual permanent pump or the "perpetual pump™". By mediation of the cell-signaling molecule nitric oxide, and delivered through its advanced sustained-release technology "pHyser3™", NO2 amplifies growth signals, accelerates fast and slow-twitch fibers, provides complete full-body recovery, and increases endurance index (EI).*
Despite the claims of some in the supplement industry, there exists ample scientific literature to substantiate the efficacy of Nitric Oxide products. The following was written in May 1996 in a document prepared for the Royal Society and Association of British Science Writers:
"Summary research papers continue to flood the scientific journals and insights into the biological activity and potential clinical uses of nitric oxide (NO): a gas controlling a seemingly limitless range of functions in the body. Each revelation adds to nitric oxide's already lengthy resume in controlling the circulation of the blood, regulating activities of the brain, lungs, liver, kidneys, stomach and other organs.
The molecule governs blood pressure through a recently recognized process that contradicts textbook wisdom. It causes penile erection by dilating blood vessels and controls the action of almost every orifice from swallowing to defecation. The immune system uses nitric oxide in fighting viral, bacterial and parasitic infections, and tumors. Nitric oxide transmits messages between nerve cells and is associated with the process of learning, memory, sleeping, feeling pain, and, probably depression. It is a mediator in inflammation and rheumatism."
The fact that nitric oxide increases blood flow should make it of interest to bodybuilders, as increased blood flow will serve to deliver more nutrients to muscles, thus helping muscles become larger when subject to stress. The fact that Nitric Oxide acts to reduce inflammation should also make it of interest to bodybuilders as it has the potential to reduce the pain associated with subjecting muscles to extreme stress.
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I THINK... THERE FOR I AM!
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2003/07/11, 07:33 PM
I ALSO READ THAT THERE ARE SOME "SIDE EFFECTS" OF NO2. I SAY SIDE EFFECTS CUZ IT WASNT INTENTIONAL. SUCH AS:
-HEALTHIER SKIN.(CLEARS UP SOME ACNE AND MAKES YOUR SKIN MORE RADIANT)
-HEALTHIER HAIR.('NO' IS FOUND/ACTIVE IN ROGAIN)
-LONGER, HARDER ERRECTIONS.('NO' IS ALSO FOUND IN VIAGRA)
-BETTER TANS AND TAN COLOR.
-ALSO YOU BECOME MORE YOUNGER LOOKING AND ATTRACTIVE.(ITS BEEN PROVEN THAT THE OPPOSITE SEX FINDS PEOPLE WITH MORE SEMETRICAL FACES ARE MORE APPEALING. THUS 'NO' TIGHTENS THE MUSCLES IN YOUR BODY, ALSO TIGHTENING THE MUSCLES IN YOUR FACE CAUSING IT TO BECOME MORE SEMETRICAL)
THE COSMETIC "SIDE EFFECTS" ALONE SEEM NICE. ALL THIS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE GUY TO INTRODUCED CREATINE TO EVERYONE, EDWARD BYRD. THOUGHT I MIGHT SHARE WHAT I READ. I WILL BE GETTING NO2 NEXT WEEK AND I SHALL KEEP YOU POSTED ON MY RESULTS.
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2003/07/12, 09:16 AM
There is one more side effect...it will make you rich and famous too! You forgot that one. Don't fall for marketing hype.
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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.
Ron
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2003/07/12, 04:57 PM
As I posted earlier in a similar post, sick1, under this same thread:
I'm about to play guinea pig with Universal's NOX3. I don't buy into that whole vasodialation bull. If what it said were true (that it actually DID cause vasodialation, of which I am doubtful), this would not result in getting more blood to the muscles; just the opposite. As vasodilation occurs, blood pressure drops: simple physics - decrease in pressure = decrease in volume. Vasoconstriction increases pressure thereby pushing more blood through. If you want to compare it to Viagra: Viagra functions by increasing the blood pressure over all, which is why a contraindication for Viagra is the use of Nitroglycerin... VERY deadly.
However, as an anti-catabolic product, I believe it may be promising. I don't believe that I'll get massively ripped and huge off of this stuff, but for simple recovery and repair, it should prove useful....
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"Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
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2003/07/20, 05:47 PM
AFTER CONSULTING THE GUY AT MAX MUSCLE I DIDNT GET AND WONT GET NO2. $80 IS JUST TOO MUCH TO BLOW RIGHT NOW.
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2003/07/25, 01:53 PM
Well guys I've been on NO2 for three months and It does work for me. I even used the work out plan in the book that NO2 has put out and I've gaind in size and in power. And by the way it's ture about the longer harder errections. I used NO with creatine which is suggested by the book with a protien shake. I'm very pleased by the results and will continue to use the product.
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2003/09/02, 04:23 PM
I just started a cycle of NO2 yesterday...and my friend started last week. i'll post our thoughts in a week and again in 3 and let you know what we think about it.
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2003/10/14, 09:14 AM
I used NO2 about 5 months ago. I was very pleased with my results. Please note: My diet was intact, working out 3-4 times a week w/heavy weights, and I was getting plenty of water and rest. I think I may have packed on a solid 12-15 pounds over a 3 month period
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2003/10/14, 09:17 AM
All for hard work diet, protein, and creatine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2005/02/23, 08:36 PM
how old do u have 2 b 2 take No2 is there an age limit?
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2005/02/24, 01:08 AM
Has anyone tried nitric boost by optimum? I am taking that and cell-tech, as well as 100% whey by optimum and optimum glutamine. I got it all for reasonable prices. I have been taking it for a week and have gained 3lbs. Maybe its water weight, but I have gained more strengh and muscle. But I am just wondering if the NO2 is a factor in any of this or if it is just the cell tech and protein and I am wasting money on NO2, it had great reviews when I bought it over NOX2, NOX3, and pump tech.
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2005/02/24, 11:00 AM
How long have you been lifting?
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Has anyone tried nitric boost by optimum? I am taking that and cell-tech, as well as 100% whey by optimum and optimum glutamine. I got it all for reasonable prices. I have been taking it for a week and have gained 3lbs. Maybe its water weight, but I have gained more strengh and muscle. But I am just wondering if the NO2 is a factor in any of this or if it is just the cell tech and protein and I am wasting money on NO2, it had great reviews when I bought it over NOX2, NOX3, and pump tech.
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2005/02/24, 11:43 AM
I have been lifting for a month, and I just started this stuff this week. I was lifting for a year straight, then I took off this previous year and didn't lift at all and I got back into it.
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2005/02/24, 07:14 PM
I had a feeling by your post you were just into it. Of course you are gaining, it most probably is not from the NO2 or the Cell tech, or any other supplement right now. Let your diet do some work, get stronger, then opt for that crap if you want. How do you know if it is even working? They make alot of money off new guys promising them huge gains, and they don't have a clue and listen to these sales guys....and they haven't even started to lift yet! Geez, biggest scam in the business.
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I have been lifting for a month, and I just started this stuff this week. I was lifting for a year straight, then I took off this previous year and didn't lift at all and I got back into it.
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2005/02/24, 11:56 PM
Thanks for the insight, I know that cell-tech works, I tried it about 2 years ago when I was lifting steady, then got to college and quite for a year, "never shoulda did that!" But I increased a lot on cell-tech, I couldn't gain on just a healthy diet, so I tried it, and gained like 15lbs. on 1 cycle. Thats kinda why I went back to it, but the NO2 I was just curious about since I have heard some guys raving about it, and how it gives you a massive pump during workouts. During the time I was taking nothing I weighed steady in and out, in the last week I have gained 5lbs. "as of today" and I am lifting with the same routine. Maybe its all in my head, but I don't have the genetics to put on muscle and weight w/o a lil help.
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2005/03/11, 10:27 PM
I'm currently taking NO products, and I definitely feel a strength gain. I kept my protein the same and dropped my creatine out for two weeks before I started it. I reached a base level. After about six weeks of using it, I went in one day not feeling particularly any different, but instead of being able to only do my 4 or 5 full concentrated dips on the bars, I popped 8 out like it was nothing; forced it to 10. I'm up to 12 now, a month later.
Maybe it just doesn't do anything for some people. The last time I went off of it, I noticed a strength loss, but didn't take it too seriously. Now I pretty much do. Having said all that, you don't need NO2 in my opinion; just get L-Arginine Ketoglutarate (sp) I've been using NOS from Wal-Mart (got it way before I started working at GNC lol) Of course, I'll never rule out psychosomatic phenomena or placebo effects, but if you believe something is working for you, you have to go with it (but, me, of course, Mr. self-proclaimed guinea pig--I'll probably go ahead and phase off and back on to see if I can duplicate the effects).
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2005/05/31, 04:14 PM
I took it for a week and got BLINDING headaches from it.... wasn't sure if it was the cause or not so I took it again --- same result.
Threw the rest of them in the toilet -
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