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2003/07/12, 12:39 PM
I would like to mention a few things here about this thread. We all got into this thing we do, whether just to get into shape, or we were fat or skinny, or just want to look better. I believe the first thing that should always be considered in this undertaking is health. This should be the first and foremost thing we strive for. If a better body comes with it, then this is a wonderful side effect. But never, ever compromise your health with silly supplements promising huge amounts of fat loss or massive msucle gains. These marketing folks are making huge amounts of money from this industry trend. Don't get me wrong, there are some quality supplements out there. Protein can be essential, creatine for the most part works, these are heavily researched and have science behind them. This get ripped quick or get huge quick stuff is hype. And, not only will it lighten your pocketbook and make them rich, but even worse may compromise and be detremental to your health! No one really knows the short term, let alone the long term side effects of this stuff. They,(the supplement companies)are very good at what they do, take a little science and put a huge spin on it. Ask around your gym first, or physiques you admire, how did you get this way? What did you do? See how many of them are taking the new hot supplements, or how many of them actually just worked and dieted their asses off to get there. Be careful, and be healthy. Your health is the bottom line here.
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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.
Ron
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2003/07/14, 01:38 AM
thats it ! you pronounce near exactly my opinion - in 90 % of cases its all about money - health is on second place. Thanks bb1fit for suggestive post.
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2003/07/14, 04:45 PM
As always Ron, an enlightening post. Thanks.
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~Victoria~
...There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.--Beverly Sills
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2003/07/15, 02:07 PM
Hey Ron, Just curious, what Supplements do you take? and how much?
Thanks
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2003/07/15, 08:44 PM
I take protein, creatine(sometimes), dessicated liver, amino acids, and vitamins/minerals. I also take an extra mass aid once per day with my post workout shake, called Mass Maker. Great stuff for recovery quickly. Oh yeah, ZMA before bed.
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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.
Ron
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2003/07/16, 10:46 AM
Hi, here is sample of the result of daily analyzer (tonning and losing weight):
Target Acutal
Calories 2,642 kcal 1,482 kcal
Carbohydrates 425.0 g 112.9 g
Proteins 170.0 g 133.8 g
Fats 32.3 g 59.5 g
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2nd day Actual
1482 kcal
134 g
113 g
59 g
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3rd day Acutal
1495 kcal
71 g
223 g
42 g
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4th day Acual
2187 kcal
71 g
427 g
38 g
any suggestion for sumpplement?
Thanks
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2003/07/17, 11:50 AM
Never mind with my question, I posted it again with more details. Thanks
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