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jbennett Posts: 1,558 Joined: 2001/02/28	2003/07/25, 08:08 AM As you can tell form the subject, I fell just short of my goal. I really wanted to hit 420 on deadlift. Its my fault, though. I put on 415 when I should've added more weight. Anyway, I did get 415 this morning (no wraps, no straps; just belt and chalk). It seemed to go up with relative ease. So after that I tried 440 2x and couldn't do it either time. 415 is a new PR for me, but I know I can do more. Maybe I'll try it again in a month or two. Mutt, its your turn man. Let us know how you do on Sunday!! -------------- --JBennett "I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!" "Pain is only weakness leaving the body." "Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2003/07/25, 09:52 AM Dude, 415 is still great! And it's not like you're not going to hit 420 (or higher!), just not this time. There is no rush - take your time, and I know you'll end up getting more weight in less time than even you can imagine. Best of luck... -------------- Michael "Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/07/26, 05:26 PM WEll I did 185x10 for a warmup. Then went to 275x10, 315x8 405x1 and 425x1 so Yeah I GOT IT!! Form was kinda shaky on the last 1/4 of the rep/ I think I maybe could have hit 430 but I plan to take the next month to add more reps and better form to the 300-400lb sets.....JB you will get it next time!!! -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
richardjst Posts: 410 Joined: 2002/07/13	2003/07/26, 07:08 PM How do you guys deadlift...sumo stlye or conventional style? -------------- If hard work and persistence were the keys to success, most people would opt to pick the lock.~Dick
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/07/26, 09:10 PM I do it reg style. -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
jbennett Posts: 1,558 Joined: 2001/02/28	2003/07/27, 08:29 PM Conventional. I can't get any leverage doing it sumo style because my legs are so far apart. -------------- --JBennett "I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!" "Pain is only weakness leaving the body." "Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
jbennett Posts: 1,558 Joined: 2001/02/28	2003/07/27, 08:32 PM Congrats, Mutt! That's awesome. You should be very proud of that. I'll hit it eventually. I'm patient (or at least I like to think I am). -------------- --JBennett "I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!" "Pain is only weakness leaving the body." "Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/07/28, 08:48 AM LOL it felt great. I want to now make sure that my form is perfect before moving to 450 -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2003/07/28, 11:34 AM You would think that because of my long arms and legs that sumo would be more appropriate, but conventional always worked for me better. -------------- Michael "Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/07/28, 11:40 AM I just think that I have more power with conventional......sumo looks to awkward for me. -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2003/07/30, 01:52 PM That is still a great feat...some of you may want to visit this website, has some pretty awesome stuff on it... http://www.ironsubculture.com -------------- Great people never want it easier, they just want to be better! Ron
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2003/09/19, 02:16 PM speacking of deadlifts...any one ever used a hexabar? ( you step in the middle of it) we used those in high school.....i could do more weight but it just didn't feel right but i'm back to the regular way now....and i used to do sumo deadlifts there actually very easy....but to get my back more of a workout i switched to convential style
BigJDeDona Posts: 31 Joined: 2003/09/08	2003/09/20, 12:08 AM i dont kno if i was doing it wrong, i dont really kno the proper way to deadlift, i kno the basicas but im no expert. i was at teh gym today doin some squats and cleans and i decided to try out a deadlift after my workout. i worked up to 405 for 1 w/ no belts or straps or ne of that. i didnt try ne more cuz i didnt ahve a belt on and i didnt warm up and i dont really want to pull nething. some1 send me a good site on how to deadlfit
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/01, 03:46 PM Here is my deadlift workout: 315 x 3 405 x 3 455 x 3 505 x 1 560 x 1 600 x 1 625 x 1 655 x 1 I try to keep the warm-up set reps low so I'm not fatigued when I get to the singles. I take 2.5-3 minutes between singles and about 1.5 min between the triples. I use conventional style.
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/04, 08:51 AM What are some exercises you folks use to build your deadlift? I would like to compare, contrast and discuss. Thanks.
GOWAR Posts: 361 Joined: 2001/10/24	2003/10/05, 02:53 AM what is sumo style?????????? i always just do normal deadlifts my coach calls them romanian deadlifts?
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/05, 04:51 PM Romanian deadlifts are not deadlifts at all. Your coach has misnamed conventional deadlifts. Sumo deadlift is a wide stance deadlift. Feet are nearly touching the plates when you set up.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/10/06, 09:33 AM I just do deadlifts that is all I max out once amonth the rest of the month I do a med-heavy cycle for the most part allways trying to add weight and reps each week... -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/06, 10:03 AM Hey Mutt, You would probably be deadlift alot more if you didn't wear yourself out in the warm-up sets.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/10/06, 10:33 AM Oh I know I believe that If I just did one rep lifts I would be up in the 500lb range easy....but I want to get there with a strong lift ya know? I do plan on getting my max lift up in the next 3 months or so most likely go from 425 to 500 -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/06, 12:22 PM What do you mean with a strong lift? Doing 3's and singles will be strong and you'll get there faster. Do other things to build your lift like back hypers, reverse hypers, good mornings, glute-hams, and etc....
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/10/06, 12:43 PM I do hamstrings on leg day , I do not usualy do any other lower bak lifts at all. I do not like good mornings have seen and heard others get hurt from those. I do throw in the hyperext now and then. I do chins, bent rows and deadlifts, and then finish off back day with lat pull downs (though this is where at the end where I may throw in a few sets of hyperext). -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/06, 01:18 PM Goodmorning done incorrectly are bad for you. Good mornings done correctly are good for you. From my experience, take it for what it is worth, a strong deadlifter needs to do the back hypers with weight and reverse hypers with weight. I do back hypers and reverse hypers every week. I use bands for resistance on both. Those two exercises have helped me alot with my squat and deadlift.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/10/06, 01:21 PM well I can do the hyperext and I have done them with hol weight as well, but I do not think I wanna start good mornings at this point in my lifting life...just too much tht could go wrong. -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/06, 01:24 PM It is important to go with your feelings. I do them, but it took me 3 months of coming to the gym and having the intention of doing them and skipping them because I was worried too. I injured my back playing football when I was in college and I didn't want to risk it again. But, I can honestly say that when I do them now my back doesn't hurt because I don't over do the weight and I stick the form.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/10/06, 02:49 PM The other thing is that I have to chose the most time efficent exercises out there....for upper back I do chins, and bent rows for lats as well. Deadlifts take care of the lower back and that is about all the time I have but I am willing to try new thngs all the time even more so if it will help my deadlift max increase! -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/07, 01:33 PM I started deadlifting 4 years ago to rehab my back. I started with 135 for sets of 10 (my back was trashed). I worked up to 225 x 10 over the course of a year and a half yet I could even pull 300. So, I started doing reps of 5,4,3,2,1 and added the back hypers, reverse hypers, and hamstring work. My deadlift jumped to 500 over the next year. Over the past year my deadlift has kept climbing and I sit at 655 as of Saturday night. I like to add that I don't use a belt, or straps, or wraps, or a suit. I don't take creatine or other performance enhancing substances. It is me and the bar and some chalk. The 655 is a good solid pull. My back remains flat through out and I feel good after it. My workouts take 45 minutes and if that is not time efficient then I don't know what is.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2003/10/07, 02:30 PM Explain what you mean by these: back hypers, reverse hypers, and hamstring work -------------- Eat More, Drink More, and Lift Harder than you thought you could, welcome to Becoming!
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2003/10/07, 03:02 PM Wow! A 350-plus pound increase in 2 years... -------------- Michael Trample the weak; hurdle the dead! Chaos, Panic, Disorder.... Yes, my work here is done!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/07, 07:36 PM What does Wow! mean? I also have good genetics going for me. And 350 lbs is not that big of an increase in the deadlift when your squat numbers are already high. It was a matter of strengthening my back and training the lift.
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2003/10/07, 07:50 PM You're right - I have seen bigger gains in shorter time, but without knowing anything about you, it was meant as a complement.... -------------- Michael Trample the weak; hurdle the dead! Chaos, Panic, Disorder.... Yes, my work here is done!
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/09, 11:05 AM Thank you. Alot of people have accused me in the past of taking certain supplements because I am strong. I started training when I was 12. My highschool football teammates accused me (because I was stronger and faster), my college teammates (again for the same reasons) and it drove me nuts because all of my hard work was dismissed by these people. People are always ready to accuse somebody who works hard and gets results because they are either jealous or are not getting the same results. Anyway, I just thought I would explain why I am sensitive to this issue.
fryer91 Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/09/29	2003/10/09, 05:45 PM F.Y.I. Rev & Gatormade; you both are awesome! Damn leaders!! Sincerely, A JEALOUS ONE Thanks..................... I'm jealous as H!!!.....
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/09, 08:57 PM Thanks, I love to deadlift. Repper, you are right about that.
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2003/10/09, 09:06 PM Deadlifts are a highly underrated exercise in developing explosive power. I train the UF volleyball players with deadlifts in the off-season. This year we will box squat and deadlift. We'll go heavy on the deadlifts and 50% on the squats. We also do back hypers, reverse hypers, and other appropriate assistance exercises.