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So I Am Thinking I have to Fight Someone

G_Unit
G_Unit
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2003/09/27, 03:32 AM
Ok, I just moved to the north carolina area and I have not made very many friends yet because it is such a new enviroment for me. Well the people here are totally different from back in Pennsylvania. I mean really different. So I had some problems with bullies in my old town. I didn't want to have those problems here. So I kept to myself on the bus because I didn't even know neone yet. So today I didn't catch the bus to school this morning and when I get on it after school the bus driver is handing out assigned seats. Obviously he assigned these seats that morning and well I was without a seat. So everyone is almost sitten down and I and about 3 other people are still standing up. So I say to the guy beside me rudely bumping me, "can you please sit down?", and then it gets dirty after that. The entire 45 minute bus ride home was so like annoying and I got my face all flustered and everything. And well they kept hitting me in the back of head with a plastic bottle and sticking tags on my back that had peoples names on it that told where everyone is going to sit at. That really annoyed me to heck. So I overhear them saying like, "hey dude poor that lemonade in your bottle on him!" I was like you wouldn't dare and then low and behold he poors the sticky crap all over my head and my clothes. I was so mad right after that. I had contacts on then the stuff got into my eyes and burnt like no tomorrow and then he pushed me into some people I was sitting with because I could not see a darn thing for like two minutes probably. My eyes got so watery from the contacts like the irritation from the burniness. I got off at my bus stop and I was furious beyond control. I walk into my room at my house and start breaking stuff. Now I am a respectful guy and everything. I do not like to pick fights at all, I am not scared to stand up to anyone that gets in my face. I was so mad from when I got off that bus. I was cussing, yelling out every word in the book. I forgot to mention the kid got all up in my face when I asked him kindly to sit down please. I thought that was uncalled for and everything. Some jerks kept saying my shirt was to tight when I know for a fact my shirts are not tight. These people have never met me nor can they judge me. I ignore them most of the time and I just smile at them. I am kinda overweight to a certain degree and I have had braces for about 3 months as well. These and my clothes are the certain things they pick out on me to say something about. So about the kid who threw the lemonade all over me on the bus and made a buring irritation in my eyes because of my contacts. So I am going to go fight him on the bus monday. I have no real care in the world to whats going to happen. I was thinking about bringing a equalizer with me to make the first shot the cheapest I can be. Such as a 5 LB. metal dumb bell I have which I was going to slam over his face, that would instantly bring him down beyond comprehension. I want to hurt this kid bad for how bad he humiliated me on the bus in front of about 50 other people. I am going to walk on the bus monday and pick a fight something I don't normally do. I was thinking to bring something smaller or whatever but I don't really care. Can neone give me some advice on what to do? Such as a equalizer weapon or how I should hit him first since it is in such a crowded area. I don't really care what happens after this. But I think using the dumb bell would get me in alot of trouble or make my problems worser but in the end it makes me automatically win which is a plus. So yeah. What do you guys think? How should I go in there to make the first hit? I am going to fight this kid no doubt. Our builds are almost the same. Hes a skinny punk and prolly 1 to 2 inches taller then me and he don't look very strong and I strong I think. So I'm just gonna do what the nike slogan says, "JUST DO IT!"

G_Unit
G_Unit
G_Unit
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2003/09/27, 03:36 AM
Sorry my grammar and some of my spelling was bad, I was writing what I feel and didn't really care about my grammatical errors.
7707mutt
7707mutt
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2003/09/27, 08:20 AM
WEll son in this day and age bring a weapon into it is not cool. I understand bullies believe you me I had to deal with it my whole schooling career. MY advice is to stand up to him but let him make the first punch if you can sort of self defense ya know. If you do need to fight my advice is to fight to win ok? Feel no shame in hitting and punching where ya gotta. BUT I would try to advoid a fight if you can...but do not back down...I hope that help ya

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Carivan
Carivan
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2003/09/27, 11:34 AM
Wow, sounds like you entered into a bunch of insecure kids who like to humiliate each other just by what you said. One daring the other to do things to someone else, and in this case you are the victim.
I don't know how old you are, but if you assault somebody you just might get arrested if you are over 18.
I would suggest you talk to the kid or kids who started with you, and if that fails then go to an authority in the school, (where was the bus driver?). There is no room for bullies. If there is one in particular guy who is continuously bullying you, challenge that bully in front of his friends, and you will see him sink!
Forget about a weapon. You may lose it, and it can in turn be used on you.
I think (by what you wrote) you are a smart enough kid, and won't take that root. Think about it, be smart, and look good as the new kid on the block. You will in turn gain more respect.
Let me know how this turns out.

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Ivan Montreal Canada
G_Unit
G_Unit
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2003/09/27, 12:47 PM
Well I am 16 and when this happened, the bus driver pretty much did jack sh*t. I am going to go onto the bus and challenge him to a fight. Monday fast approaches.
I_Am-aZon
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2003/09/27, 04:54 PM
How awful for you G_Unit :( I am sorry such a thing happened to you - and what a total knob that bus driver is for ignoring the whole thing. But do you really think that violence is the answer? I agree the guy seems like a total ________(fill in the blank with a degenerative word) but what kind of guy are you if you stoop to his level? I agree with carivan - talk to people in authority about it - harassment shouldn't be tolerated or ignored. Kick butt that way - I am sure there are many other people in that new school of yours who have also been tormented the same way as you and perhaps a leader is very much needed when kidshave been acting in such a manner.

Whatever your choice, be smart about it. High school doesn't last forever - don't make decisions that could affect the rest of your life because of one idiot. I don't think he deserves that much power over your life.....do you think so?
GOWAR
GOWAR
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2003/09/28, 03:34 PM
I agree with carivan and amazon, I'm 17 and when i was alittle younger than you the same crap, happened to me , i went to my parents and teachers, and sometimes it got resolved and sometimes it didnt , i dont know what will happen in your case, but i do know i was going through the same things. I was overweight i had glasses, and i had just moved. Have you made any friends? do you like any sports or clubs? you should try joing some, when i did everything got better i made friends , and athletic. But if they keep at it i know i would do. If you absolutely cant ignore them , and mean what ever they say u dont listen u walk the other way , u sit away from them, you tell ur parents, u tell ur school counselor and administrators. I wish i could come up there to N.C. so you could introduce me to these people. SO i could kick their ass i hate people like that. Theres more than one way to get even rather than fighting. I.E. sports football , contact sports.? how bout that? if all else fails ur life becomes hell, TEAR HIM UP KICK HIS ASS, but dont use a weapon, man to man, but thats after u have done all you can do. I dont know how big you are but sometimes u cant avoid things, just try to resolve this the peaceful way first .DO NOT FIGHT HIM TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
G_Unit
G_Unit
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2003/09/28, 05:44 PM
Thanks for everyones comment, today is Sunday and well I don't know exactly what will happen tomorrow in school. They will no doubt call me names like "Pussy or Bitch or something insulting to me", If the kid that poored this stuff on me says something then I will not hold back. Someone wanted to pick a fight with me last time and I told the administration of the school and they got in trouble and I low and behold I had no friends because they all saw me as a tattle tell. I absolutely hate people who do this crap to other human beings, it is so down right wrong. Our builds are almost the same. If he does nething at all I won't hold back, I am not scared of him at all. I will report back to you guys tomorrow after I get back home from school. Bye.
GOWAR
GOWAR
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2003/09/28, 06:06 PM
ok , you're in highschool right? how many people are on your bus 20-30 , how many people are in your school like 3,000, so because u told on 1 kid you have no friends out of 3,000 people, come on , have you tried to make some friends? It sounds like from the beginning you wanted to fight these guys. If you go looking for trouble , trouble may just find you . Avoid if you can. Isn't there more than one of them ? Try ignoring them?
G_Unit
G_Unit
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2003/09/29, 04:22 PM
Well today was weird. I stayed upto 2am sunday night and well I missed the bus monday morning and well the fight didn't go down as planned. So I goto school and 2nd period I was contacted to the principals office and some girl had told the principal what happened. So he tells me to recognize who this to me and well I did and the kid got suspended 3 days. He told me if I had even fought once he would've instantly suspended me. So I ride home on the bus and everyone keeps calling me names but not to my face. I would have rather punched the kid but it ended peacefully I guess. So yeah thats how my ordeal ended.
azredhead57
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2003/09/29, 06:13 PM
That sounds like the way it would have been handled at the schools my boys attended. Any misbehavior on the bus would have been reported to the principle and the offenders would have been dealy with accordingly. Sounds to me like you have one friend already, in the girl who reported the incident! I know it is hard, but it usually (not always) turns out better if you let the adults or authorities responsible handle things. I'm glad you didn't get into a fight. Believe it or not, you handled yourself well and were the better man.

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gatormade
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2003/10/24, 11:48 AM
Hey,
I'm from PA too. Anyway, F**K 'em. Who cares about them. Lift weights, get big and they'll leave you alone. Seriously, Vent your frustrations out on the weights. It will keep you and everyone else safe. Hitting that kid with a weapon will land you into Juvie. Before I was a strength coach I was a teacher at a Juvie center. You do not want to be put there. Showering is a nightmare. The dorm master will turn the showers on. The best kids get to go first. They have 3 minutes. By the last group there is no hot water. There are lots of other horror stories I can tell you. If you need a workout send me a message.
GOWAR
GOWAR
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2003/10/29, 12:05 AM
Gatormade's attitude, i feel the same exact way, my first 2 years of highschool i got messed with then i just played sports, weighlifted,football, and wrestled alot got big and healthy, i haven't had someone say something negative to me in like a year at school. I'm glad you didnt fight him.

See ya later
upatrail
upatrail
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United States
2003/10/29, 01:05 AM
I with GOWAR. when i was in ninth grade I went to a Catholic school in Santa Fe N.M.. I've got blonde hair and blue eyes, everyone else was hispanic. I got picked on all the time so I joined the wrestling team. my weight class was 100lbs(i got up to 110lbs by the end of the year). I rarley, and eventualy never, got picked on again. Join a sport and make some friends. Its healthy and social!!

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uknowuluvme
uknowuluvme
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2003/10/30, 05:11 PM
LISTEN...i know that it is going to drive u crazy right now and all u think about is kicking everyuones butt - but just leave it alone- trust me it wont be just one of them u'll have to fight- it will be 5 or 10 and if u dont have friends u could get hurt!--so avoid it! same thing happened to me in high school-- i had to get homeschooled at one point-- but when i graduated EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM APOLOGIZED-- i dont even think about it now-- actually- it seems big to you now but focus on other things- trust me it will blow over!
em18
em18
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Spain
2003/11/21, 12:48 PM
I was bullied at school and these girls were always wanting to fight me.
I always walked away.
Not because i was brave or anything, but because i was scared.
I know violence doesnt solve anything but what are you supposed to do when you're having the **** kicked out of you? Lie there? I dont think
I wish now that i could have kicked the **** out of them because my school life was hell because of them. In the end i dropped out because i could bear to go to school anymore.
I told the teachers and the girls got suspended. But we lived near each other so they got me out of school.
I wanted to fight in the end because i was so mad, but their families, who were in gangs got involved so in the end i moved away.
I wish id been more sporty and stronger then maybe they wouldnt have picked on me. I was so weak


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agamble
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2003/11/21, 02:13 PM
There have and will always be bullies in the world and that is a shame. Used to you could bust em in the head and most would shrivel up to nothing. Now, because of all the violence in school, it's hard to stand up without getting into serious trouble. But stand you must. Stand up by your attitude and actions. I'll bet there's more people in that school that identifies with you than with them. It will just take some time but soon you will have a circle of friends who will respect you for who you are. It may be tough for awhile but hang in there.
2003/11/21, 02:18 PM
Read the quote. It is very true and healthy.

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ATIGER
ATIGER
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2003/11/21, 04:06 PM
Sometimes a good run is better than a bad stand
laneylou
laneylou
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2003/11/21, 07:39 PM
BEAT 'EM UP!!!! KICK THEIR BUTTS! oh... I'm KIDDING. Don't do that. heheheh Boy it's hard to be young now days isn't it? It's rough being an adult but sometimes adults forget how hard it was to be a kid and especially a teenager. Hope you figure out what to do .. but fighting ... nahhh ... Be a real man and turn the other way. Let the other guy be the immature lil freak ... ;) Want I should call my friend Antny? 'E's real good at knockin' off knee caps!
Jdelts
Jdelts
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2003/11/29, 07:46 PM
Kids are cruel.....Different people have different ways of settling issues. Fighting just makes both parties more pissed off, even if you whoop his ass, is that how you are going to settle every problem when it arises? Don't get me wrong, if he comes at you, defend yourself, or avoid it. Man, MUCH easier said than done. This is a realy tough time in your life, and believe it or not alot people your age are going through similar experiences. Talking about it and working out solutions may be the best thing to do for you in the long run. Coming here to FT.com was a good first step. Here you can find people who may have had similar experiences and can offer support. Just writing about it can help. My man, unfortunately our anger gets the best of us, don't let it get the best of you. Don't fall into a pattern, and look at the possible consequenses if you start fighting. The word is DEFENSE, protect your body and your mind. CARIVAN said it best, you came across some kids who are so insecure about themselves that they need to define themselves by bullying other people....they are sad kids. As much as I personally would like to bitch-slap the be-jesus out of these kids for you, I can only offer my support. Good luck and keep us posted.

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KeithAVH
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2003/11/30, 01:03 AM
Wow, that was quite the story... It seems to me that you meant to miss the bus, afraid as to what would happen... I'm not saying your afraid of him, just your better judgement got a hold of you.

Kids (some) are stupid, some mature quick, and some never seem to grasp that whole growing up thing.

I wouldn't of even wasted a weekend to nail him, I would have done it right there if he poured something on me.

Congratulations on your patients though, even though you were mad, I hope things turn out.

Also, don't keep to yourself, just find a few good friends, and I guarantee that won't happen like that again.

starbell
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2003/11/30, 09:11 AM
Well alot of others have said the best thing you will hear. Avoid the physical confrontations. The only winner in these situations is no one. The best way to deal with bullies is to recognize that they will not change. Try to have a win/win. That would be for you to not get messed up with them, that way they thing they are winning, and you well know that you have a community of people at ft that are here to support you and encourage you on the good decisions you make. LIft weights to get ride of the fustrations and anger, don't destroy your personal property as that only makes you feel worse.
So far you have been dealing with adversity very well. YOu have the strength and controll to do the right thing. Violence only breeds more violence. It would also seem that the person that went to the principal would make a good friend if you could find out who it was. Obviously they ride on the bus with you, so maybe that is the person you need to sit with.
Ya other youth are stupid and cruel. Don't be one of them be better than. Walk tall with your head up. Demonstrate the confidence, and eventually they will back off. Especially when they see how much bigger you are getting from your exercising. Good luck.
Jdelts
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2003/11/30, 07:20 PM
good post starbell...situations like this can either make or break a person. Either they stay angry or they learn how to better cope when faced with a similar situation. Hopefully g-unit stays smart and positive.

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OPINIONS ARE LIKE BUTTHOLES, EVERYONES GOT ONE. NOW, SHUT-UP AND GROW!!!