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Dr. Phil

gatormade
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2003/10/24, 10:00 AM
How did he all of a sudden become an expert? Is he for real or is he out to make a buck?
borpillicus
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2003/10/24, 02:45 PM
Well, he is "Doctor" Phil... Maybe he's got a PhD in one thing or another.

Then again, Dr. Giggles was also a Doctor and I don't think he went to school for a PhD. Hehe.

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rsquade
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2003/10/24, 03:57 PM
He is a PhD - in Psychology. He has had lots of experience in people with behavioral problems - and overweight is a behavioral problem. He even says that his book contains nothing new - he highlights that it about living right, not dieting. He says his objective is to get Americans to wake up and change behavior, not sell books - though I doubt he minds the income. He's got a bully pulpit for good or ill and he's using it for good.

He doesn't have anything to teach most of the crowd on FT, but as we all know, we're in pretty rare company.
azredhead57
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2003/10/24, 05:37 PM
He has no sympathy for people who are overweight. His approach is healthy, similar to the stuff on here. He is no-nonsense though and will not accept any excuses from anyone. I like that. The psychology part comes in because almost always there is an event in our lives that causes us to turn to food as comfort. Until we deal with that event or the real reason we are fat, we probably will not succeed at losing weight and living healthy. If you've never watched him or read any of his books, you might try it. You would probably like him.

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Lonegirl
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2003/10/25, 05:25 PM
I have to say I avoid him like a plague. He may deal with people at a pyschological level....but his book is marketed for weight loss not healthy living. LOL
upatrail
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2003/10/27, 11:10 PM
Let me tell you a little known fact about Dr. Phil. A few moons ago Oprah was sued by the cattleman's assocation of Texas( I don't know the actual platiffs name on the action) for bad mouthing beef on her show. This was about the same time as the the big "mad cow disease" scare in England. The Texas law firm she hired used a jury expert (like that new movie Gene Hackman is in). This jury expert was Dr. Phil. Oprah liked him so much she had him on her show. The rest is history

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azredhead57
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2003/10/28, 12:57 AM
I think he is doing something right, these 13 people have already lost over 300 pounds total and they are not on DIETS. He is teaching them how to eat right, pretty much the same stuff I learned here. And they are exercising regularly. With weights.

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2003/10/28, 02:28 PM
If he is not in it for the money, what is his picture doing on those little food products that are on the tv??

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azredhead57
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2003/10/28, 04:31 PM
Oh I'm sure he is in it for the money. And I tried one of his bars, it wasn't bad, good labeling and a little bigger than a Zone or Balance. I just feel, personally, that he knows what he is talking about, and I've watched him enough to know, that if he doesn't know, he gets someone who does. He has a lot of docs and trainers involved in this program. He does have a non-profit organization geared toward stopping obesity in America's youth.

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asimmer
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2003/11/01, 09:41 PM
If you want to know, look at his book or watch his show.

He tells it like it is and people need to hear that, i looked at his supplements, they don't look terrible, no worse than slim-fast.

Apparently he did a ten year research project with patients over 200-300 pounds and that is the basis for his book. The key is that his participants kept the weight off.
He addresses the meotional reasons we cover ourselves in fat and he gives common sense advice about eating and exercising.

Somebody has to do it.
Again, if he motivates even a handful of people to change their lives and improve themselves, isn't he validated?

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muller252
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Ireland
2003/11/07, 01:41 PM
He speaks a lot of common sence. I like the guy and his no nonsence approach.
rickyshot
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2003/11/08, 08:33 PM
I really like him. HIs book has spawned so many sites on people getting real about what causes them to eat and that is a good thing if nothing else. My leader at Weight Watchers use to say a lot of times, it is not what you are eating but what is eating you. That is so true. Dr. Phil has always said you cannot be overweight without a lifestyle to support it (not just diets) and that is although very simple and known to most posters on this forum very true and big news to many out there who haven't a clue as to why they are in the shape they are in and how to get off the merry go round they are on. More power to him.
sirocco
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2003/12/16, 03:01 PM
I do agree with some of Dr. Phil's no-nonsense approach but sometimes he makes me cringe. He seems to take a very dominant role in the therapy process which mind you is good for some people but annoys me to no end. For example, on one Oprah show where he was doing a group therapy session he had a hissy fit because some of the people were not responding to his ideas. At that point he stopped being a therapist and became a bully! Not healthy at all. If someone is bullied to do something, chances are they will balk and it will create a physchological nemesis that stops them from freeing themselves of harmful behaviour. He has helped some people (those that don't mind being bullied or recognize that they need that for that moment) but I think he needs a little therapy himself.
Jdelts
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2003/12/16, 07:46 PM
Read about GESTALDT therapy, by Frederik Pearls. This will give you a better understanding to the approach Dr. Phil uses. Its pretty effective, but my take is that it doesn't really take into account the client's culture and the affect of the client's support system. Just taking one approach to therapy can be dangerous in the client-therapist relationship. The ecclectic(see what works for the client)approach is the way to go. Some therapists do need therapy but we are trained to not impose our values on to the clients because that is what we are there for...the client not ourselves. As you can tell, I'm a therapist so this is a good topic for me to put my two cents into. LOL

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azredhead57
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2003/12/18, 12:53 PM
Never met a therapist I didnt like....nice to know ya jdelts.

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Jdelts
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2003/12/19, 02:07 AM
Thank you azeredhead57, that made my day. :-) ...and I never met a redhead I didn't like.

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