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joe_s Posts: 3 Joined: 2003/11/16	2003/11/16, 06:13 PM I just bought Prolab Creatine Monohydrate and it says to take it twice daily after you load it up. I just want to know if I should take it twice on my non-workout days, and if I should take it twice on non-workout days, what are the best times to take it. Thank you. Oh and I am 15 years old, 5'6" and I weigh 130 pounds.
joe_s Posts: 3 Joined: 2003/11/16	2003/11/16, 06:16 PM Also, I would like to know what is the best way to cycle creatine.
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2003/11/16, 06:30 PM 15 years old?...be careful. How long have you been training? -------------- SHUT UP AND GROW!!!
joe_s Posts: 3 Joined: 2003/11/16	2003/11/16, 09:49 PM I've been training for about 3 months and a half.
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2003/11/16, 10:33 PM I know this isn't what you want to hear but, I wouldn't suggest creatine use just yet. you're still growing so let the natural growth come out first before you try creatine. Another thing, read BB1Fit's post "a must read". This will give you a good idea of what supplements are about. Good luck. -------------- SHUT UP AND GROW!!!
Rziv Posts: 20 Joined: 2003/10/16	2003/11/25, 10:35 PM Since i am 17 i believe i can relate to you... Many kids a well as myself think that creatine will get you huge yes you see some imporovements but no that much. I started to take it at 16. There is also to much hype created about this although i have to say it does increase your strenght and stamina i am taking now again shortly so i can keep up with harsh basketball practices. listen to jdelts let your body grow first then take it. WORK! WORK! WORK
Shane123 Posts: 148 Joined: 2003/11/27	2003/11/27, 02:54 PM I don't think creatine would be a big issue for high school kids. There's no need to cycle it. There's also no need to load it (you've got plenty of time). As for times to take it, morning and post-workout would be good.
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2003/11/27, 04:22 PM Shane 123...you have a good point about the cycling part but I disagree with you on creatine not being an issue. Hear me out; at fifteen years old it is safe to say that the person has not reached his or her overall maximum growth potential. What I was suggesting was for joe_s to lift for a couple of years or so, his hormoane levels are through the roof and taking creatine at that point probably won't make much of a difference except empty out a bank account. I'm not saying in any way that it may be harmful(but everything has a risk involved), but I was fifteen once and thought taking supps was the answer to growth. No, creatine may not be a big issue for high school kids who are 17,18 years old, but fifteen, with little training experience, may not be a good idea. ============ Quoting from Shane123: I don't think creatine would be a big issue for high school kids. There's no need to cycle it. There's also no need to load it (you've got plenty of time). As for times to take it, morning and post-workout would be good. ============= -------------- SHUT UP AND GROW!!!
Shane123 Posts: 148 Joined: 2003/11/27	2003/11/27, 10:11 PM Creatine is safe and effective regardless of age. Granted, it may be less effective in some segments of the population (including children) than others, but it should still be effective nonetheless. It's also dirt cheap.
agamble Posts: 1,029 Joined: 2003/09/22	2003/11/27, 10:16 PM Does creatine increase the incidence of muscle cramping during intense physical exertion or is that just a myth?
bowers Posts: 179 Joined: 2003/04/13	2003/11/28, 12:31 AM Shane 123 WRONG agamble you must always keep your body hydrated even moreso on creatine
Shane123 Posts: 148 Joined: 2003/11/27	2003/11/28, 01:20 AM Guess I can't debate that. Vagueness works well to that end.
bowers Posts: 179 Joined: 2003/04/13	2003/11/28, 02:16 AM Didn't mean to be so vague however if you do a search you will find plenty of articles about teens and creatine and why they should not use.
Shane123 Posts: 148 Joined: 2003/11/27	2003/11/28, 02:01 PM Did a search and found very little on the subject of creatine and teens (just vague mentions that teens shouldn't use it). The only arguement I can see as valid, though I'm not a big fan of it, is that someone should get training and nutrition down before getting into supplementation. Otherwise, I've never heard any reason for any male to fear creatine, unless they have medical problems. Even the supp companies don't seem worried.
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2003/11/28, 08:16 PM NO....I wasnt saying it was to be feared or dangerous, I was saying that it may not be a good idea at this point seeing he has a couple of more years of pure hormonal growth left in him....get down the muscle base and diet, THEN consider taking it. Shane123, you may be at a different level than joe_s and taking creatine may work for you. But when you metabolism and your body's response to muscle growth is still in an early stage, people may not take to creatine that well. People of all ages sometimes feel compelled to start using creatine thinking it may be a magic bullet to growth. -------------- OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYONES GOT ONE. NOW, SHUT-UP AND GROW!!!
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2003/11/28, 08:26 PM I just realized the last line you wrote "even the supplement companies don't seem worried"...of course they don't seem worried, there's no restriction from the FDA so they'll push it until they're blue in the face. -------------- OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYONES GOT ONE. NOW, SHUT-UP AND GROW!!!
Shane123 Posts: 148 Joined: 2003/11/27	2003/11/29, 12:04 AM He's got probably up to 8 more years of pure hormonal growth left. As such, I wouldn't advise PH's, but creatine and protein at the very least are part of a solid routine at some point. I agree that if someone expects it'll magically transform them they're mistaken. That goes for pretty much anything (any supplement, any exercise, any diet), though. Generally supplement companies will do whatever it takes to prevent a lawsuit. That comment was in regard to safety for younger people. If there was even remote fear of that, they'd plaster it all over the place that it shouldn't be used by those under 18 or 21 or what have you.
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2003/11/29, 05:58 PM This is like going around in circles...lol. Joe_s probably left the sight by now! Sorry Joe_s, just goes to show that sometimes you just have to find out for yourself whether or not these things will either benefit you or burn a hole in your pocket. Good luck! -------------- OPINIONS ARE LIKE BUTTHOLES, EVERYONES GOT ONE. NOW, SHUT-UP AND GROW!!!
TheP0pe Posts: 3 Joined: 2008/11/27	2008/11/27, 11:52 AM i want to know if age has alot to do with creatine because i am only 14 years old but i am bigger than both my parents and most of the teachers at school....will it be bad to start taking it?
rbault Posts: 17 Joined: 2008/12/02	2008/12/15, 12:34 PM That stuff makes me bloat and hold alot of water...I use Cellmass Creatine Ethyl Ester...No water bloat.
returnofplex Posts: 801 Joined: 2007/10/26	2008/12/15, 10:31 PM Just work on eating clean and lifting intelligently. Save the supplements for when you plateau. Or better yet for your early 20's after your body gets done growing. ============ Quoting from TheP0pe: i want to know if age has alot to do with creatine because i am only 14 years old but i am bigger than both my parents and most of the teachers at school....will it be bad to start taking it? =============
SFGiantsMVP Posts: 1,533 Joined: 2005/12/04	2008/12/15, 11:43 PM ============ Quoting from returnofplex: Just work on eating clean and lifting intelligently. Save the supplements for when you plateau. Or better yet for your early 20's after your body gets done growing. ============= 2x that He's to young for the stuff, it's like these young guy on Steroids when they already have so much test already without it. People don't want to earn they want short cuts. -------------- Knock-Um Down & Keep-Um Down! My Log http://www.freetrainers.com/FT/jsp/Message.jsp?f_ix=15&t_ix=1609 Squat 260x4 Deadlift 340x1 Bench 260x2
dmichaell Posts: 1 Joined: 2008/05/10	2009/02/10, 04:19 AM Too bad he told his age. I have the same question and I am 28. Can someon give an answer that has nothing to do with age?