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2003/11/28, 07:52 PM
I have heard sooooo much talk on this, I just wanted to get some opinions on doing my cardio before breakfast. First, most of the time, I wake up ultra hungry in the morning. I can down a cup of water to kill it. I was wondering if, it was okay to have a small fruit or something to start me off before I hit up the gym in the morning for cardio? right now I do it after my work out. I was wondering what were the benefits of doing cardio before breakfast? It is possible for me to do it. I just want to research it abit more before I make the decision to do so, and not have the risk of canabulizing my muscle!
thanx,
theresheis :)
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2003/11/29, 04:31 PM
Well, many don't want to wake up and go run...but doing so on an empty stomach will rev up your metabolism like no other and keep a better pace up throughout the day...to keep from canibalizing your muscles...right before you go to bed take in some casien protein and right after you run/workout take in some whey...this will help you keep muscle loss down....Hope some of this helps..
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2003/11/29, 07:54 PM
If you are trying to lose fat, cardio before you eat in the morning is great. Don't eat fruit because your body will use that as fuel first, then it will begin to use fat. You want start burning fat right away. richardjst's point on the casien at night and whey right after, is good advice, but you also want to eat something after you workout as well...I know you meant to say that richardjst.LOL
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2003/11/29, 09:52 PM
If you do cardio on an empty stomach, you will burn alot of calories and fat, yes, but also maybe as much muscle. I know it sounds counterproductive, but have some "fuel" beforehand. Something to think about, you really have no control over what type of "substrate" your body uses. You can gear it toward fat, or at least muscle glycogen rather than muscle with a protein supplement or BCAA's, or even a small protein/carb meal for protection. The way fat is burnt is raising of baseline metabolism for the day, and caloric deficit through diet. Do not make the mistake of accomplishing a short term "fix" for a long term goal. Your muscle is your best friend in the fat burning battle, do not waste it. Be smart.
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2003/11/29, 10:17 PM
so I should have some kind of protein fuel before my cardio then? That was why I was aking the question, so I do not have a "SHORT TERM FIX" and I was able to keep the muscle I have strived for, over the yrs. a few other questions, what is a BCAA? and what is casien? thanx for the help so far! If I was to intake a protein substance, what should the caloric value be? how many grams of carbs to protein? Can I have a protien bar? or is it better to have a whey shake in the morning? and how long should I wait to do my cardio after the "fuel"
thanx,
Theresheis
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2003/11/30, 04:48 AM
Well I'm on a diet right now. I do morning cardio but I take a cocktail of amino acids and creatine (in water) just before. It works for me before and it works for me today.
I only do 20 mins of morning cardio.
BCAA is a mixture of the most essentiel amino acids (leucine, isoleucine, valine..) and casein is a milk protein.
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2003/11/30, 02:27 PM
During my training, I took carnitine and downed water right before my morning cardio. BB1FIT has a good point, it would be wiser to take in a little carb, to be on the safe side. I was taking reference from my own training which is different from yours THERESHEIS, and if I was misleading I apologize. I would go with BB1FIT on this. Be safe and good luck.
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2003/12/01, 04:19 PM
I used too drink a couple raw eggs, but then ROCKY started to copy me. So now I just eat a power bar and drink a little h2o.
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2003/12/01, 07:17 PM
Vit. C wil do nothing to reduce cortisol levels on the level of catabolism that we create.
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2003/12/02, 09:59 PM
Hey Jdelts, how you doing man? I have a question regarding your first comment in this topic...
You said not to eat fruit before you workout in the morning because it will burn first. My question is this, and ive been wondering for some time...does it really matter? I mean, if you eat the fruit before u work out, yoru body will burn that first yes, then start onthe fat. If you eat it after your workout, your body will burn fat first and then burn the apple when you eat it after...so its really all the same, just a different time to eat it. What are your thoughts on that? Just curious.
Then BB1fit said somethin about maybe burning muscle...i shall read that again cause that scared me LOL.
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2003/12/02, 11:09 PM
Fruit is basically a waste for this purpose. You have to realize that fruit is mostly fructose, and fructose tops off liver glycogen. When liver glycogen is full, then the rest can be turned to fat. These are wasted calories that will not aid muscle glycogen in the least. If your glycogen stores are not full(muscle), your body will cannabalize existing muscle tissue if nothing is done to protect it. It cannot utilize fat fast enough for something like HIIT.
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2003/12/03, 12:02 AM
BB1, are you saying that its not good to eat fruit for a carb portion of a meal? Help me understand..
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2003/12/04, 10:40 AM
cortisol levels, catabolism, fructose, glycogen. Oh crap just shoot me now!!! sheeesh. This is why I never got started on eating healthy and exercising in the first place. I understand you guys have been at this a little while but all of this is starting to overwhelm me. Do I really need to know all this stuff if I just want to lose a little and tone a little? I am not trying to be Janet Jackson or Beyonce. If what I am doing is working for me (I am seeing results, a little slower then I wanted, but I am doing it the healthy way) and I continue to see results, do I really need to learn all this stuff?
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2003/12/04, 12:08 PM
NO, do not overwhelm yourself. The idea of a healthy lifestyle you have down. This should be your first concern, and will lead to a healthy and more sound body and life. What I am talking about is for the more hardcore, more advanced. The important thing to remember is as Nike says it..."just do it". If you become more hardcore, then you need to tweak things a bit because these things like cortisol will play a big part and wreak havoc if you don't put them in check.
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cortisol levels, catabolism, fructose, glycogen. Oh crap just shoot me now!!! sheeesh. This is why I never got started on eating healthy and exercising in the first place. I understand you guys have been at this a little while but all of this is starting to overwhelm me. Do I really need to know all this stuff if I just want to lose a little and tone a little? I am not trying to be Janet Jackson or Beyonce. If what I am doing is working for me (I am seeing results, a little slower then I wanted, but I am doing it the healthy way) and I continue to see results, do I really need to learn all this stuff?
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2003/12/04, 12:28 PM
Quoting from paulinelagasey: cortisol levels, catabolism, fructose, glycogen. Oh crap just shoot me now!!! sheeesh. This is why I never got started on eating healthy and exercising in the first place.
LOL Did I post that? :-) I'm sorry, what I was really frustrated about was this not smoking for 60 hours and counting. Now I know why they say "don't stop smoking if you just started a diet or exercising." LOL
It is kind of frustrating and confusing though and I bet I'm not the only newbie who feels this way, I'm just the only newbie who has the courage to post it. hahaha.
So now I'll go crawl in my whole, better yet, I'll go to the gym and not post until these withdrawels calm down a bit, lest I say something I may regret later. Love you all.
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2003/12/04, 12:37 PM
paulinelagasey, do not feel down or anything. That is why these are "discussion" boards. Always feel free to post your concerns/questions.
You really are right though, just beginning, it is overwhelming and shouldn't be. You should just enjoy it and do it. Once you get to a plateau where you have been training and dieting for a while and are really pushing things, with no results, then these things can really be of aid. Till that point, just enjoy your "gains" you wil make by living a healthy lifestyle like we employ. Be happy, do not fret. Not all of us want to be bodybuilders, so push yourself to "your" limits and enjoy it.
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2007/04/20, 11:58 PM
Can I have coffee in the morning before doing cardio? Will this harm the effect that morning jogs have on burning fat?
Kat
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2007/04/21, 08:53 AM
coffee will have a positive effect
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2007/06/17, 03:03 AM
coffee is not recommended. Drinking plain water is the best.
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2007/06/19, 03:14 AM
coffee is a great kick unless your taking Creatine at the moment.
I hear BB1 say it all the time a coffee and the right piece of candy can make a workout like non before.
Water is for after the coffee and during cardio and or workout!
Coffee may not help if your a all day drinker though like my Great Granny was, she woke to a huge pot perking and still keep filling it up through the day and night lol.
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2007/06/19, 12:20 PM
I walk around the gym carrying my "to go" cup of coffee. How else am I going to wake up? I drink it on the way to and during my workout (I do also drink water). I also have a cup when I get to work after my workout. Then I'm done for the day...I drink green tea once or twice during the afternoon and before bed.
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