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2004/06/03, 01:32 PM
The other day at the gym I was doing my prescribed routine. However, often times I do it out of order because I don't feel like waiting for someone to get off of a machine. I feel like it's a better use of my time to take whats available at the time (the gym is so packed cause summer). I do end up doing my whole routine though. However, this pushy gym trainer came up to me and told me that I wasn't working out properly because I needed to work muscles in groups, thus a proper order. Now I wasn't sure if he was just using this as an excuse to try and sell me on the $300 + training program they offer at 24 hour, or if he was being sincere. I tell you, this is a major problem for me. It seems like the staff at the gym are more concerned with selling you their program rather than helping you. Anyhow, if someone could let me know the truth (as I do trust you genuine and credible people at this sight) I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Kelly
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2004/06/03, 01:55 PM
I personally am with you and will adjust my workout as the machines or wieghts come available with some exceptions. My main complex movements (bench press, squat, deadlift, shoulder press) I always do first. I don't want any exhaustion going into these movements, so that I can maximize the wieght that I use. After that I try to do other multiple joint exercises next and then isolation movements, but I am not as strict. That being said, I do tend to do all of one group of muscles before moving on to the next one, but that is so I can say I am done with it. I say if it works for you do it your way, as long as you aren't injurying yourself, and you are seeing improvement.
Daniel
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2004/06/03, 02:01 PM
Thanks Daniel. Its nice to know that I can talk to people and know that they don't have alterior motives in advice giving (like the gym hawks and their commission). Its comforting.
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2004/06/03, 02:03 PM
I have done the same thing as you several times. In fact I do it often because of equipment being used by other people. I have never had a trainer come up to me and tell me that I was wrong, in fact I don't believe that there is anything wrong with it. I think they are either trying to pick you up or sell you something.
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Would it be classified as overly competitive if I refused to let a 4 year old beat me at chutes and ladders?
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2004/06/03, 02:16 PM
hecdarec,
hehe...actually, about the pick up thing, I was thinking the same thing. Those gym hawks are spineless : ). Thanks for the input.
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2004/06/03, 02:24 PM
Agree with hecdarec. The guy trainers at my gym are always chatting up the attractive women. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it is a gym and we are there to workout. I think we all have done things out of order because others are on the machines. I have no problem if they are actually working out. But, I do get upset when they are taking five minutes between sets, or flirting, or just lollygaging around. And the other thing is when they do 15 sets of the same exercise on the same machine. I think that might make them a poster child for overtraining. D##N, now I'm fired up and ready to workout. And 2 1/2 more hours in the workday! AAARRRGGGHHH!
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2004/06/03, 03:36 PM
i agree - think he's just trying to sell you something or get your number! i do stuff out of order all the time just because a machine isn't open - and it's really annoying to me when people are busy socializing between sets and taking forever between sets! gggrrr....
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2004/06/03, 03:57 PM
I used to be passive about that kinda stuff...but now I go up to a chatty group and ask "Are you using this?" It works every time. If they are done, they leave, and if they're not, they actually DO a set. I hate to be the jerk, but I pay money for my membership, and I am going to workout what I want to workout. The way I see it, they are talking on my time. And about the trainer, Hec's right, three hundred dollars and your phone number is a pretty good deal for him. Ask yourself what YOU would actually get out of it. (Also ask yourself the name of this site)
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Spark the fire that will torch the numbness inside. If you look too far ahead, you will lose sight of today
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2004/06/03, 04:02 PM
My favorite ones are the people who lay their workout log on the bench next to the one they are using. Hello, there is a floor!! I ususally just stare at their log and say "That is all you are lifting?" and they move it every time.
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Would it be classified as overly competitive if I refused to let a 4 year old beat me at chutes and ladders?
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2004/06/03, 04:04 PM
kellygirl - as long as you are working the big muscle groups before the little muscles, it doesn't matter, and even then you aren't going to mess yourself up or anything, it just isn't as efficient.
Tell him you are circuit training, 'go away'.
As a former club trainer, I can tell you - we were forced to go out and talk to people when our PT supervisor was there. He would say 'Go out and don't come back until you know how many kids at least five people out there have' or he would say - 'see the guy on the lat pull-down, go appraoch him and try to correct his form'. Even if I had corrected the guy's form every day for a month and he wouldn't listen.
What was really awful was when there were practically more trainers than people working out, boy did people get miffed.
I told my supervisor that i hate it when people interrupt my workout by talking to me, why would I go do that to other people.
It all comes down to the club wanting your money.
Sure I would help people who asked for it, or really looked like they were injuring themselves, I would do that anyway, but you are told you have to sell a certain amount of training consistently (and the number goes up every time to meet the goal) or you will be put on 'probation' and fired for not performing financially.
Sucks.
So, do your workout, and ignore the trainers, unless you have question on good form - ask them to show you, thank them and say 'Okay, great! I can get on with my workout now!'
Good luck!
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2004/06/03, 04:30 PM
Well, that explains why I would get use to a trainer and they would disappear. Sucky system.
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2004/06/03, 08:02 PM
If you are serious about your training, it makes perfect sense to work muscles in an order for what you are trying to achieve. Unless you are doing circuit training, it is generally better to finish one muscle group before going to the next.:big_smile::dumbbell::big_smile:
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2004/06/03, 08:04 PM
I dunno, maybe its cause of my size, the way I hold my self in the gym, or mayeb the pissed off look I get on my face.....But I have gone like 3 to 4 moths with out anyone saying a word to me. Trainers never say anything to me for some reason, I do know pretty much what i'd doing and my way around the weight room...but I dunno.
I've had more actual people come up to ask me what I was doing and why?( band bench for example) Its amazing how people do the same thing day in day out, and never try somthing new......I don't know if i invent them or make them up but I have made up 3 or 4 "new" excercises, that I do from time to time, and I get the strangest looks, but no one says anything to me.
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2004/06/04, 10:55 AM
It would be nice if the trainers corrected people with bad form. That would be helpful. I see sooooo much of it. Yesterday I overheard them all discussing who had the best butt in the room. Now, that's entertainment!
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2004/06/07, 02:44 PM
Yeah, I have left a gym because of being harrassed. Aren't they getting enough money from us already? Don't they know that we already have ft? :laugh: I hate it when a gym has too many people with too little equipment. I get extremely grumpy! Just thinking about it is grinding my gears. I need to go and heft some iron to blow off some steam. :dumbbell: :angry: :dumbbell:
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2004/06/08, 12:04 PM
LOL: I hadn't read the name (kellygirl76), just the title and the info (I thought the author was a male, with guys trying to pick HIM up!!!:surprised:) I can relate to much of what I read above. The gym here (at the university) is getting packed:angry:, and I constantly have to adjust my plan. I usually "adjust" by doing another exercise that targets the same (or similar) muscle groups, or go to a machine (rather than the freeweights, as I prefer).
D
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