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40 minutes to lose fat?

EgptnBalla24
EgptnBalla24
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2004/06/27, 12:16 AM
I read somewhere that the max time a weight training session should be is 40 minutes and after 40 mins the levels of muscle building and fatburning hormones begin to drop, and that training after that is actually a waste of ur time because you won't have the hormones or fuel necessary to produce muscle growth. So in that 40 mintues since u do burn fat do you need to do cardio also?? Is this how bodybuilders get so cut just short EFFECTIVE workouts?
Thanks for the help.
asimmer
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2004/07/02, 09:20 AM
Yes, shorter workouts are generally more effective. Anything over 45 minutes/an hour is probably detracting from your progress. Many people overtrain, thinking that more is better, spending up to 2 hours a day lifting.

You still need cardio for heart health, but do it on opposite days than lifting or earlier/later in the day.

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bbronswyk2000
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2004/07/19, 07:25 PM
body builders do not do cardio and weight training within the same time frame they take a few hours off and than go and do their cardio or weight training so if they did their weight training in the morning they would do their cardio later in the afternoon or vice versa. They also do other crazy things as well like setting their alarm clocks half way through their sleep and get something to eat like a protein shake or something but for the average person we dont need to do that they are pros
EgptnBalla24
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2004/07/19, 07:35 PM
OK so if i was satisified with my weight but wanted to turn it into muscle how would i go along do so?
bbronswyk2000
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2004/07/19, 08:06 PM
dont ever worry about your weight I am a PRIME example. I am 6'3 235lbs and according to the BMI I am overweight. I can tell you I am far from overweight. I would worry more about the way you look and feel and not worry too much what the scale says. If you want to tone up than try that specific program on FT ( I just started it today ) if you want to bulk up try the strength excercises on here.

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Quoting from EgptnBalla24:

OK so if i was satisified with my weight but wanted to turn it into muscle how would i go along do so?
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EgptnBalla24
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2004/07/19, 08:28 PM
well the only reason i say i want to keep my weight is because it kind of helps me with basketball so that i dont get pushed around as much when im in the key. With the BMI think im considered overweight also but im also far from it. SO my main goal i guess is to stay at my weight but with a sixpack and stronger how woudl i go about doing this?
bbronswyk2000
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2004/07/19, 08:34 PM
Take the strength gaining excercise program from this site. You will probably gain some weight but if you aer worried about getting pushed around than gaining some weight shouldnt be an issue. This means you will be doing less reps but heavy weight and more rest inbetween sets than what you normally would like almost 2 minutes inbetween sets
EgptnBalla24
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2004/07/19, 10:08 PM
sorry let me explain my goal(s). In essence i want to stay at my own weight but get more lean so i.e. get a sixpack etc... SO i just want to lower my bodyfat and at the same time gain muscle

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Quoting from bbronswyk2000:

Take the strength gaining excercise program from this site. You will probably gain some weight but if you aer worried about getting pushed around than gaining some weight shouldnt be an issue. This means you will be doing less reps but heavy weight and more rest inbetween sets than what you normally would like almost 2 minutes inbetween sets
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richardjst
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2004/07/19, 11:42 PM
My friend, you have just stumbled on one of the hardest things to do with a human body. What you need to do is find a common ground for your goals. What is your drive? Is it basketball, or is it to look good in the mirror? You would be surprised, if you are in decent shape, how much fat you would burn and how much muscle you can put on without changing bodyweight. Just keep lifting, but more importantly eat clean. Your body will figure out what to do about the rest, you can only dictate which way you want it to go. You can only lose so much fat and gain so much muslce before your body weight begins to change, because eventually it will. Do quick workouts but utilize supersets, drop sets and such try to get in and out of the weight room in 30 minutes, minus warm up. I will quote from a magazine I have read before "if you cant wipe out a muscle group in a half an hour, your not doing it right". Do your cardio for at least 30 minutes on opposing days of weight training. Eat clean, work hard, and don't worry about the scale, if you gain muscle, you'll still be able to stand your ground, trust me on that one. Im 5'9 and can work the post just as good as the tall guys, because I lift weights that weigh twice as much as them, but am also a measley 180-185 lbs. I hope some of this helps.

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EgptnBalla24
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2004/07/20, 12:03 AM
ya i understand thanks for the help im in good shape i just dont got that sixpack im looking for being 5'10 around 180 seems to be working fine for basketball but i'll just continue with the healthy eating/ lifting weights Thanks for the help guys