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murtaza Posts: 11 Joined: 2002/02/05	2002/08/26, 03:17 AM did he ever use steroids?
CJFit Posts: 58 Joined: 2002/07/26	2002/08/26, 07:15 AM Yes he did.
Arnold Posts: 1,112 Joined: 2000/11/27	2002/08/26, 07:46 AM .. he started at 14. -------------- .o0 Arnold 0o...o0 theaustrianoak@hotmail.com 0o.
SRZrasoul Posts: 153 Joined: 2002/07/03	2002/08/26, 12:51 PM My friend has some golden gym book or something, which has a little about arnold and some of his routines. He did not use any steroids or recovery suppliments etc. he did not believe in that stuff
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2002/08/26, 01:00 PM LOL he sure did use steriods.....I am a huge fan of the Oak, but if you believe that he competed without them you are greatly mistaken. Of course he might have denied using them...as a way to break the spirit of his fellow competitors, he was famous for that. It is well known that he used them, maybe just not as long or as much as others but he did. -------------- Life comes by only once....Live it to the fullest!
murtaza Posts: 11 Joined: 2002/02/05	2002/08/26, 02:06 PM wow! i thought he never did
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2002/08/26, 02:29 PM there is one HUGE difference between the drug use then and the drug use now: the guys then (like Arnie) used the drugs under controlled environments, i.e. researched dosages, blood work, med supervision, etc. Today, its ludicrous what "athletes" do. i'm not saying what they did 25 years ago was correct (the administration of ANY drug without the medical need is unethical), but the dosages and routines that people use today is completely out of control. the amount some current ifbb pro does in one day arnold did in a year, so to speak. -------------- Michael "Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
Arnold Posts: 1,112 Joined: 2000/11/27	2002/08/26, 05:08 PM .. right on rev. As for SRZrasoul.. don't be fooled. It broke my heart when I found out as well.. but it's a FACT. -------------- .o0 Arnold 0o...o0 theaustrianoak@hotmail.com 0o.
SRZrasoul Posts: 153 Joined: 2002/07/03	2002/08/26, 06:28 PM AHH! and i thought arnie was all natural! =_(
randyp Posts: 2 Joined: 2001/06/03	2002/08/26, 06:39 PM What proof does anyone have? I don't believe for a second that he did. When you take steroids, everything gets big---your heart, your liver--everything. That is why the freaks of today have large guts. Until they suck them in, their guts are larger than their chests. Arnold had a very little waist. If you took him at his prime, he would place last compared to the modern day freak. He would look like a skinny little boy compared to the steroid users of today----until you offer some hard proof, the proof is actually in his photo's.
Lumina20 Posts: 966 Joined: 2001/10/31	2002/08/26, 06:54 PM Didn't you see the post about him not using as much as people do nowadays, maybe that's why all that stuff didn't happen to him.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2002/08/26, 10:29 PM If you go back and look at some older interviews he has done and a few of the books written about him he admits it. Also at 6 foot 1 weighing around 250 he was huge for the time. His small waist was kinda an optical illusion. Because of his huge chest and lats as well as his shoulders it all combines for a smaller looking waist. -------------- Life comes by only once....Live it to the fullest!
troy_wells Posts: 1 Joined: 2002/08/27	2002/08/27, 11:01 AM as far as arnold goes does it matter he accomplished amazing goals.he is a true champion and he achieved many of the goals he went for.
Arnold Posts: 1,112 Joined: 2000/11/27	2002/08/27, 11:06 PM agreed.. back in the 60's - 70's.. genetics was the main factor in bodybuilding. Sure they used anabolics.. but very small dosages.. and fairly simple ones such as Deca, dBol, winny and some testosterones. Arnold would have been large without steroids, but he did need them to become the Champion he became. -------------- .o0 Arnold 0o...o0 theaustrianoak@hotmail.com 0o.
metallicat61003 Posts: 5 Joined: 2003/08/29	2003/08/29, 04:59 PM he did use steroids!! check this link out,,it explains it http://hjem.get2net.dk/JamesBond/www/artikler/steroidemisbrug/arnoldandsteroidsprintervenlig.htm but like others have said he used a tiny bit compared to what is being used now
plfitness Posts: 198 Joined: 2003/05/25	2003/08/29, 05:32 PM I just have to jump in here. I have seen numerous interviews where he admits to usage (including a recent one when he was still undecided about running for gov.). Now lets deal with one fact, steroid usage back then was equivelent to what supplement usage is today. NOt to validate their usage but if todays supps were availible then they would have produced the same results as the dosages back then. Also back then steroids were not considered in the legal manner that they are today. As a matter of fact supplements are more scrutinized today than steroids were back then. Not to be offensive but to pass judgement on any of the bodybuilders of that era is like throwing stones in a glass house. Who knows 20 years from now someone might have this same conversation about one of us because we took ephedra at some point in our lives. -------------- \"Knowledge & persistence is all one needs to succeed" ---Patrick L.
pj_quick Posts: 11 Joined: 2003/04/21	2003/08/29, 06:16 PM Does anyone here think I can get to be a pro and or Mr. Olympia without using steriods?? I am 17 yrs old and my body type is mesomorph, I weigh 155, waist 29 :)
metallicat61003 Posts: 5 Joined: 2003/08/29	2003/08/29, 08:14 PM It's hardly unlikely to get to that level of muscular development without the assistance of steroids.. ============ Quoting from pj_quick: Does anyone here think I can get to be a pro and or Mr. Olympia without using steriods?? I am 17 yrs old and my body type is mesomorph, I weigh 155, waist 29 :) =============
pj_quick Posts: 11 Joined: 2003/04/21	2003/08/29, 08:28 PM are creatine, glutamine considered steriods? ============ Quoting from metallicat61003: It's hardly unlikely to get to that level of muscular development without the assistance of steroids.. =============
asimmer Posts: 8,201 Joined: 2003/01/07	2003/08/30, 12:32 PM no, they are supplements, steroids are hormones. Creatine is a natural compound found in your muscles an glutamine is an amino acid. You cannot look like Mr Olympia without lots of epensive steroids, no matter what any of those guys say. It is their personal choice to risk their health/life by doing extreme amounts of steroids to be that big. Considering the small amount of money available as pirzes and the dwindling endorsements it is suprising how hard they will work and how much they will do to be the biggest and freakiest. But the crowd rewards them by going apeshit when they pose, so there is a definite conflict in what they are told is bad (doing steroids) and how people react (going apeshit). Arnold has admitted to steroid use, it was mainstream when he was a bodybuilder, look at Mike Mentzer (dead now), Dave Draper, all of those guys. It was common for there to be a doctor supervising cycles then also, not as common now (except maybe in the big leagues). We know a lot more now about the damage steroids can do than they did then.
asimmer Posts: 8,201 Joined: 2003/01/07	2003/09/05, 11:07 AM I am not knocking Arnold, I have extreme respect for him in all of his endeavors. He is a focused, driven individual who knows exactly what he wants and does anything neccessary to get it. (and , oh, his beautiful waist!) Yes, it is pretty bad what people will do to their health for 15 minutes of fame.
Bor1s Posts: 22 Joined: 2005/12/25	2006/01/24, 02:28 AM Here is what i don't understand.Arnold and Gunter have the same measurements abd height yet they have a difference of 20kg.How does that happen?
	2006/01/24, 05:01 AM Arnold admitted that he used very small amounts of steroids during his cutting cycles....5mg vs 100mg today of certain steroids.... Also in his days it was legal and there was nothing wrong with using them...there was much less data on them.....showing their dangers at 6'2 and 232-240 that he competed....is a far cry from the size of the bodybuilders today....Ferrigno dwarfed arnold even in those days....so arnold wasn't the biggest by any means.... Gunter uses ^x steroids arnold ever used...many steroids used today weren't even available in those days....
Bor1s Posts: 22 Joined: 2005/12/25	2006/01/25, 03:39 AM I am not asking why is Gunter bigger,my question is how come they have the same measurements but different weights?
	2006/01/25, 05:35 AM different body composition....Gunter has probably lower body fat...and higher lean muscle mass.....
Bor1s Posts: 22 Joined: 2005/12/25	2006/01/31, 02:49 AM But i thought Arnie was leaner than Gunter?