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phil07 Posts: 14 Joined: 2005/04/11	2005/04/19, 10:09 AM I've noticed over the years that I have always been able to lift about 25 to 35% more weight using smith machines in opposed to free bar. With that being said, is there any excercises anyone knows out there that specifically targets the stabilizer muscles in order to achieve greater gains in free weights?
JustinE22 Posts: 1,312 Joined: 2003/09/18	2005/04/19, 01:04 PM Not sure exactly what your question is. to achieve greater lifts in bench you would want to work your shoulders and triceps because those are secondary muscles and your abs would be the stabalizer muscle. Deadlifts will help boosts squats. There's a difference between stabalizer muslces ans secondary muscles.
blue77 Posts: 182 Joined: 2004/10/10	2005/04/19, 02:32 PM The stabilizer muscles,I know the military press hits the stabilizer muscles pretty good,internal rotation,external rotation,and shoulder abduction,works the shoulder cuff muscles,the stablizer muscles anr hit doing free weights,not in a fixed range of motion like the smith machine,free weights are the way to go i think philo7...
phil07 Posts: 14 Joined: 2005/04/11	2005/04/19, 03:40 PM I was unaware that the stabilzer muscles used for benching were the abs..is this correct? For some reason I thought that they were related to your shoulders...and I was wondering if there were any excercises meant to specifically target those unique shoulder muscles that stabilized the weight during the lifts..
Josh1122 Posts: 29 Joined: 2005/04/12	2005/04/19, 03:56 PM There are stabilizing muscles all over the body. The best system I recommend is the BowFlex because it helps create those needed stabilizer muscles. Also if you ever get a chance to work out on a Bowflex I strongly recomend using or purchasing one. -------------- Don\'t think you cant do it know you can do it.
phil07 Posts: 14 Joined: 2005/04/11	2005/04/19, 04:02 PM I knew the bowflex was good for that, but I was wondering if there was any gym alternatives...since my gym doesnt have a bowflex (damn powerhouse) .....
JustinE22 Posts: 1,312 Joined: 2003/09/18	2005/04/19, 04:22 PM Stick to free weights you will see way more results and save a ton of money in the process. I think abs are the biggest stabalizer muscle they are used in a lot of different exercises. As long as your working every muscle group your fine.
bropie Posts: 1,084 Joined: 2004/12/04	2005/04/19, 06:20 PM not necessarily abs, but your core muscles. if you've never heard of the multifidus, take a look into it. Its an important muscle to train that not too many people know even exists, and is very important to core stability. Doing endless crunches is going to do nothing for your stability unless you have a solid lower back and core to go with it..
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/04/19, 06:52 PM bow flex i don't think does what you think it says josh......its basicly like band training....although I don't know if that constant tension( as with bands) is a good thing all the time. Try doing military presses....then lunging, as the weight is over your head......do alot of physioball work........and don't wear weight lifting belts. -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato