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If a calorie is a calorie...

froshman
froshman
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2005/04/28, 08:35 PM
If a calorie is a calorie and it is the fuel which maintains our body's working order and dictates our weight, then why is it that someone who eats 2000 calories of chicken will probably weigh equal to or less than someone who eats 1500 calories of bread? Granted I know how specific calories work, with bread likely to be stored as energy i.e. fat, but most nutritionists claim that the bottom line is that 'a calorie is a calorie'. I don't understand why people adopt both philosophies when they obviously contradict each other.
bb1fit
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2005/04/28, 11:03 PM
Calories are treated differently. There is nutrient partitioning. Protein for instance has to be broken down into its amino acids(which takes energy, thus giving it a thermal property), and why higher protein diets do not necessarily end up as adipose tissue.

A calorie is not a calorie. What do you suppose would happen if someone ate 2000 calories per day, subject 1's calories were all ice cream. Subject 2's were protein. You think that the they would both weigh the same thing?

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Luvthemtorts
Luvthemtorts
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2005/04/29, 12:50 AM
Subject 1 would be dead from Cardio Vascular Disease LOL!
froshman
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2005/04/29, 01:46 AM
Exactly. That contradiction made no sense to me. I just wated to know if I was missing something, or if it's just that many nutritionists are out of touch.
princesslodgey
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2005/04/29, 05:02 AM
Excess calories of any sort will cause you to gain fat, but if you aren't getting enough protein, your muscle mass will suffer, and your metabolism will drop, leading to relative fat gain.
I believe that there is also emerging evidence (although don't quote me on this) that calories from poly and monounsaturated fats are handled differently to saturated fats and are less likely to lead to weight gain.
sstump1
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2005/04/29, 08:33 AM
"(although don't quote me on this) that calories from poly and monounsaturated fats are handled differently to saturated fats and are less likely to lead to weight gain."

You've been quoted! :laugh:

Actually I've heard that as well and that poly and mono fats are actually good for your body in moderation. Good for blood pressure and cholesterol is what I've read.

Sometimes don't you just wish you could live the life of Subject 1 for a day? :big_smile:
froshman
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2005/04/29, 02:53 PM
There is a new oil on the market that says it is used for energy instead of being stored as fat. I forget the naem, does anyone know what I'm referring to?
DX14AG
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2005/04/29, 03:13 PM
I'm sure if you consume enough calories for you to gain weight with this special type of oil, that you will indeed gain weight. After all, calories are a form of energy and can be stored as fat if to many are consumed. It should be the same with the oil.

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bb1fit
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2005/04/29, 07:27 PM
You are correct princess....EFA's can actually help metabolize fat. They are treated totally different from sat fats.

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Quoting from princesslodgey:

Excess calories of any sort will cause you to gain fat, but if you aren't getting enough protein, your muscle mass will suffer, and your metabolism will drop, leading to relative fat gain.
I believe that there is also emerging evidence (although don't quote me on this) that calories from poly and monounsaturated fats are handled differently to saturated fats and are less likely to lead to weight gain.
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bb1fit
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2005/04/29, 07:28 PM
It is not new....you are speaking I am sure of MCT's. (medium chain triglycerides)

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Quoting from froshman:

There is a new oil on the market that says it is used for energy instead of being stored as fat. I forget the naem, does anyone know what I'm referring to?
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