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gazza20 Posts: 6 Joined: 2005/06/01	2005/06/02, 08:09 PM I'll try to explain this as best I can I posted a topic saying I want to put on a stone, but then I read that you can only get a six pack with low body fat. I do a lot of sit ups and it dosent show this must be because I have too much bodyfat even though im 5 feet 11 inches and only weigh 147 pounds, my upper body is where I would like to gain weight but how is it possible to increase mass on the upper part of the body and reduce body fat on the abs please help me.Also people say a clean diet for abs to show what kind of foods will give me a balance for the upper and lower parts of the body. Also how do I do resistance training on abs do I place a weight their and do the crunches as normal.
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/06/03, 02:43 AM u cant spot reduce fat, and u cant gain weight and lose fat the same time, yes abs and losing fat is alot about diet and having it a CLEAN diet, also why u want to gain only muscle on the top of your body? you need the legs to SUPPORT the top frame u know... try running with a stone which is about 7kilos i believe in a backpak on ur back... harder isnt it? and ur planning to do that to ur upper body keeping ur legs the same? sounds rediculous to me u need ur legs to support urself.. how many people u see with a big huge upper body with small legs? u need the legs to support above. the back to support the front and so big legs and a big back will make u big, yes adding resistance is like putting weight on a situp. or u could alternativly have a partner hold his hands on ur forehead as u pushup or.. do cable crunches, machine crunches... leg raises.. list goes on.. ull hafta make a choice on weather or not u want to gain muscle first or get a 6 pack.. personally id gain the muscle.....which means u may get a little more fat while u do so... or if ur still a beginer as ur body may not be use to it u may get wat u want as u go...
gazza20 Posts: 6 Joined: 2005/06/01	2005/06/03, 04:35 AM Thanks for the advice timmstar its a hard choice.
bropie Posts: 1,084 Joined: 2004/12/04	2005/06/03, 09:04 AM check out the grocery list for healthy eating in the diets and nutrition forum for healthy foods
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/04, 05:58 PM Fat cells don't die.....if you don't give them fat? Where the hell you hear that? -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/06/05, 06:33 AM no andrew again u dont read i believe he said "fat cells eventually die if u dont eat fat" not fatcells DONT die... hed be basically saying that you will lose fat in time if you eat a good diet without bad fats.. i think andrew masturbates too much he has problems with his eyes... :big_smile:
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/05, 09:54 AM ....."fat cells eventually die if u dont eat fat) but cardio helps alot. " I'm saying fat cells do not die.......this is what i'm saying NOT what he is saying...... where did you hear fat cells die? -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/06/05, 10:07 AM fat cells shrink :)they do not die. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/05, 10:22 AM fat cell theory right bb1? -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/06/05, 10:44 AM right... :big_smile: ============ Quoting from bigandrew: fat cell theory right bb1? ============= -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/05, 11:16 AM yea intresting thing...... Acording to what I have read.....body is geneticly predetermines to have a certain amount of fat cells. Nothing will change that. So a person who's 200lbs will have 6 billon fat cells. But the same person at 300lbs will have 8 billon fat cells........the only differance is the size.....they grow and or shrink. -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/06/05, 11:30 AM This is where CLA has its most prominent benefit....it inhibits LPL (lipoprotein lipase) which is the enzyme that transfers triglycerides from the blood into the adipocytes for storage. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/05, 11:46 AM hmmm never heard of that before......but is that in theory or it does work? ive taken cla.......didn't seem that great to me -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/06/05, 11:51 AM CLA is not a "fat burner" as it is promoted by the media. It does however ellicit some great effects as I mentioned above, best utilized in my opinion on a bulk. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/05, 12:00 PM oh I see..........intresting.........i'm bout to finally fess up and cut to get rid of some body fat.......what you sugest or use......i wa sgonna use animal cuts again -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/05, 05:39 PM well you said die......die ... shrink? Lil bit of a differance there -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/06/06, 05:29 AM lol so technical, who the hell cares? thats what makes people hate u in real life... ur a tool who picks out little details that doesnt even make a difference, NO ONE is being "taught here" if he wants to learn hed pay somebody to teach him, but nonetheless fatcells DO shrink, and im pritty sure u knew what he meant andrew, anyway heres something u said which i happened to find confusing... ? thought i mite pick it out of ya since u do it to others. :) "body is geneticly predetermines to have a certain amount of fat cells. Nothing will change that." "So a person who's 200lbs will have 6 billon fat cells. But the same person at 300lbs will have 8 billon fat cells" "the only differance is the size.....they grow and or shrink." how can the same person have 6 billion fat cells at 200 pounds yet 8 billion fat cells at 300 pound IF you have a set amount of fat cells from generic birth? thought u said fat cells only grow? how come this same guy at 100 pounds more suddenly has more fat cells...???
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/06/06, 05:32 AM btw, andrew if ur considering to cut some body fat, why are you using a supplement? thought you where natural?
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/06/06, 11:21 AM You may have heard that a person is destined to become lean or fat based on the accumulation of fat cells early in life. The fat cell theory states that during the first two years of life (considered to be one of the critical periods for fat cell development), there is normally an increase in fat cell number. Other spurts in the number of fat cells come in middle childhood, around seven years of age, and again during adolescence. After a person is finished growing and reaches adulthood, the number of fat cells remains constant. The sizes of these cells may change, but they will not decrease in number. Thus someone who is overnourished in childhood (or genetically programmed to grow more fat cells), will have an excess number of fat cells, making it more difficult to control his weight as an adult. While there may be some truth to this fat cell theory (one of the reasons to stress the importance of raising a lean child), new insights suggest that neither the number nor the size of the fat cells is genetically fixed or set for life. It is certainly possible for previously overfat children or adults to become lean for the rest of their lives. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2005/06/06, 11:37 AM Luckily my kids got my wifes genes...I carry the Dunlap gene. So they're saved from the spare tire. Actually my 8 yr old was running around without a shirt on the other day...and I swear the kids got a 6 pack. I told him to hold onto it...he'll thank me when he gets to high school. :big_smile:
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/06, 07:43 PM I meant 6 not 8......kinda like man of steel meant "shrink"....... instead of "die" :laugh::laugh: I am natural.........creatine, whey, l glutaman is natural.... -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/06/07, 04:31 AM but u mentioned animal cuts? i dont know a great ordeal about this product or what it is but im assuming its to cut body fat.... and if its cutting your body fat and you aint doing exercise to do that... then hows that natural? ( aint having a go at u here just wanna clarify... what do people consider natural now adays.. wen i first started weight lifting i thought whey protien was unnatural now i dont... just wanna see wat is considered natural..)
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2005/06/07, 08:32 AM As long as you're not having muscle implants you're all natural. Right? I was looking to gain about 100 lbs this summer in muscles...new pecs, biceps, tri's, traps, delts, back, and abs. All implants...can't afford the legs till next summer...hope I don't fall over.:big_smile:
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/06/07, 08:36 AM I believe natural would be anything "over the counter" basically, no hormones, steroids, etc. Things like creatine, glutamine, amino acids are naturally occuring in the body anyway, simply decline with age, other factors, or need more due to suffering catabolism on a daily basis of what we do(the weight room, we actually put our body through severe trauma) rather than the couch potato who has no real need. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com
gymbomateo Posts: 1 Joined: 2005/07/25	2005/07/25, 11:27 AM Someone help me l have just signed up to this free trainers and l think l am having problems in understanding the routine that you have to stick to,when it says that targeted repetitions does that mean thats how many you have to do????? In additions its giving me 4 sets does that mean thats what l have to do in just one day????