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2005/08/02, 12:24 PM
With all of the items in the news lately about how it's okay (and encouraged!) to be out of shape.... okay, fat.... I thought this info was very interesting. Too bad they don't promote stuff like this!
President Bush turned 59 years old this month and his health is in the "superior" fitness category for men his age -- greater than 99% percentile for 55-59 year-old men!
The latest health results make Bush the "most-fit" president in modern history.
He has not had a sick day in the past year -- and he works out 6 days a week: Workouts include bicycling (15-20 miles, 15-18mph), treadmill (low impact "hill-work"), elliptical trainer, free weight resistance training, and stretching.
The President takes a daily multi-vitamin, low-dose aspirin, glucosamine/chondroitin, and an omega 3 supplement.
Bush Weight: 191 pounds(last year 199)
Body Composition: Body fat 15.79% (last year 18.25%; normal for age 16.5-20.5%)
Resting heart rate (seated): 47 bpm
Resting blood pressure (seated): 110/64
Uncompensated (uncorrected) distant visual acuity was 20/20 in both eyes. Corrected near visual acuity was 20/20 in both eyes (the President uses reading glasses as needed).
Bush does suffer from gastroesophageal reflux (GERD), with well-defined triggers (e.g. coffee, peppermint).
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Michael
*ITS LEG DAY*
You already blew out your wraps.
Your towel cant absorb any more sweat.
Theres puke on the floor.
Your partner is passed out.
Theres a crowd gathering...
And that was just the warm up!
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2005/08/02, 02:53 PM
Exellent work... now if only the rest of the nation would follow his example!
:big_smile:
Chris
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2005/08/03, 07:29 AM
He'll need to be careful with the cycling if he's to keep in good health though - I don't know if there was any coverage stateside, but whilst at the G8 summit in Scotland, he was involved in accident when he cycled into a policeman :big_smile:
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2005/08/03, 07:33 AM
Here's a webpage:
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411319/596378
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2005/08/03, 07:49 AM
Yeah, and they said he hurt his finger! I wonder what happened to the poor cop?
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2005/08/03, 10:53 AM
tony blair has a heart condition or something, he looks rough at the moment doesnt he?!
yeah, bush crashed his bike, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, poor man.
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2005/08/03, 11:33 AM
I didn't post this for political debate. My point was to illustrate how "fat" our society's state of mind is, like BB1's post about how obese women are healthier than obese men. After I posted this topic, I did find another article written in the LA Times about President Bush's health, and how dumb it is to be concerned about your health:
"A week ago, when President Bush met with Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson III to interview him for a potential Supreme Court nomination, the conversation turned to exercise. When asked by the president of the United States how often he exercised, Wilkinson impressively responded that he runs 3 1/2 miles a day….
Am I the only person who finds this disturbing?… What I mean is the fact that Bush has an obsession with exercise that borders on the creepy.
Given the importance of his job, it is astonishing how much time Bush has to exercise. His full schedule is not publicly available…Bush spends an enormous amount of time working out.
There's no denying that the results are impressive. Bush can bench press 185 pounds five times, and, before a recent knee injury, he ran three miles at a 6-minute, 45-second pace. That's better than I could manage when I played two sports in high school. And I wasn't holding the most powerful office on Earth. Which is sort of my point: Does the leader of the free world need to attain that level of physical achievement?
Bush not only thinks so, he thinks it goes for the rest of us as well. In 2002, he initiated a national fitness campaign. The four-day kickoff festivities included the president leading 400 White House staffers on a three-mile run…
My guess is that Bush associates exercise with discipline, and associates a lack of discipline with his younger, boozehound days. "The president," said Fleischer, "finds very healthy in terms of … keeping in shape. But it's also good for the mind." The notion of a connection between physical and mental potency is, of course, silly. (Consider all the perfectly toned airheads in Hollywood…)
Bush's insistence that the entire populace follow his example, and that his staff join him on a Long March — er, Long Run — carries about it the faint whiff of a cult of personality. It also shows how out of touch he is. It's nice for Bush that he can take an hour or two out of every day to run, bike or pump iron. Unfortunately, most of us have more demanding jobs than he does."
See my point? There is no connection between physical health and discipline; perfectly toned airheads; people are too busy to work out, etc.
COME ON. THIS IS RIDICULOUS! I have been in this industry for 18 years; I have two Bachelor degrees; I own and run my own company, and invest in many others; I bust my butt at work every day (12-15 hour days, 7 days a week); and, guess what - I still make it to the gym, and have a pretty damn decent diet!
This is just a prime example how people refuse to admit that they are unhealthy, and refuse to do anything about, and will make up ANY excuse to secure their own conscious. And they will attack anyone who is trying to something about their health. But their excuses mean jack when they're lying on a cold slab after a failed quadruple bypass from being 100 pounds of fat overweight!!!!!!
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Michael
*ITS LEG DAY*
You already blew out your wraps.
Your towel cant absorb any more sweat.
Theres puke on the floor.
Your partner is passed out.
Theres a crowd gathering...
And that was just the warm up!
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2005/08/03, 03:16 PM
Most people do make excuses... their loss... wait a second, those are the people I have to try to save because they wanted one extra Big Mac, or super-sized greasy fries; because their tv show was on they didn't go to the gym, or walk around the block.:angry: When they go to work they sit at a desk all day(some that sit at a desk are not overweight, but they care about themselves enough to exercise and walk around during their breaks), usually snacking on junk from the vending machines; always tired, and complain because they have a hundred and one health problems(most that would go away if they lost just a little weight). I'd have to say that Bush does over do it. Discipline is achieved by being able to control your actions! If you can't get control of the amount of time you exercise, then you are NOT disciplined!
Sorry for the vent, but I am getting tired of lifting people that are out of shape. I'm 21 and lifting people that are two to three times my body weight. People in shape are much healthier than those that are not; if you were in an accident, I would be happy to lift the 375 lbs of a person who was in shape. :)
Chris
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2005/08/04, 07:51 AM
I think it is awesome that Bush sets such a good example - i don't find him to be excessive at all.
It is very disheartening that the author of that article slights Bush for making the time to exercise. I would think that most people should get the message that Bush is the President, obviously he is very busy, but he still finds time to take care of himself. If the President can find time to exercise daily it makes your excuses about being too busy seem pretty lame.
Of course, that same author may write a more positive article if it had been Clinton exercising every day. Politics come into play in how articles are written, of course.
i am not trying to debate politics in the media or politics at all.
Good for Bush. more of us should take his example - that would bring our national health care costs down, as well as boost national productivity and probably even reduce the amount of road rage and violent incidents overall.
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Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think.
Benjamin Disraeli
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2005/08/04, 10:41 AM
It's funny how the two posts here about politics want you to know they are not about politics.:cool:
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This may hurt a little but its something youll get used to -MJK
Res ipsa loquitur
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2005/08/04, 11:07 AM
Raul, huh???? I don't see politics here in Michael's posts. I don't care for our president's politics or methods but I give him his props on his exercise regimin. I do believe in the philosiphy of sound body influences a sound mind. I have discovered it first hand and there's no doubt there is a relationship there. Perhaps we were better off when our pres was ignoring the state of the nation in favor of his libidnous persuits??? The point here is most Americans have lost sight of the fact that proper use and care for their bodies is as important as anything else they do.
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Prayer for the day: Lord, help me to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
Charlie
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2005/08/04, 11:11 AM
You tell 'em Charlie, rrrrrrr!
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2005/08/04, 11:36 AM
Bush not only thinks so, he thinks it goes for the rest of us as well. In 2002, he initiated a national fitness campaign. The four-day kickoff festivities included the president leading 400 White House staffers on a three-mile run…
My guess is that Bush associates exercise with discipline, and associates a lack of discipline with his younger, boozehound days. "The president," said Fleischer, "finds very healthy in terms of … keeping in shape. But it's also good for the mind." The notion of a connection between physical and mental potency is, of course, silly. (Consider all the perfectly toned airheads in Hollywood…)
Bush's insistence that the entire populace follow his example, and that his staff join him on a Long March — er, Long Run — carries about it the faint whiff of a cult of personality. It also shows how out of touch he is. It's nice for Bush that he can take an hour or two out of every day to run, bike or pump iron. Unfortunately, most of us have more demanding jobs than he does."
I thought this sounded a little political. I just think it's funny when people say they don't want to talk about politics, then proceed to give their political insight. Just an observation. no offense intended. From these posts it isn't much of a leap of faith to figure what their affiliations are.
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This may hurt a little but its something youll get used to -MJK
Res ipsa loquitur
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2005/08/06, 09:05 AM
Raulduke,
Can you answer these 3 questions?
What job do you have that can be more demanding than the President of the United States Of America?(If you are deployed I understand)
And where do you get off that this was a political discussion?
When we talk about Arnold in the gym does that also mean it is a political discussion?
I'm interested in your reply to this ??
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Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet!
Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press.
Ivan
Montreal Canada
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2005/08/08, 12:33 PM
Ivan,
In the first part of my Aug 4 post I was quoting rev8 for Charlie's benefit to show what part of his post I found to be political. My job is to test things. Cables, wire harnesses, and power supplies. They are used in JSF fighter jets, rocket launchers, MRI & X-Ray machines...etc. I'll admit the triviality of my work is subjective.
I don't think of my job as more demanding than that of the President.
On a related note, I think that, even though they're not deployed, perhaps Alaskan Crab fisherman have a more demanding job than the President. Maybe Firemen too.
I did not label the discussion as political, only 2 posts. Then Charlie offered his generalised views on the President's policies. I.e. He doesn't agree w/them. Asimmer's post was obviously political despite the disclaimer.
I think your last question was rhetoric. But if you, as a group, were to discuss Arnold forcing his fitness regime on the people of California as a matter of policy while expressing that he is "out of touch", then perhaps take a shot at the media's coverage of such transpirings as left or right biased-then yes.
On a related note, my political beliefs have not been made known in this thread.
Thank you for your interest!!
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The strong shall stand, the weak will fall by the wayside.
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2005/08/08, 05:49 PM
I was just wondering where you were coming from. Thanks for the reply.
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Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet!
Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press.
Ivan
Montreal Canada
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2005/08/08, 07:02 PM
I'm strongly political (no need to mention which way), but anyone, despite their job or political affiliation, that can follow this kind of regimin and have those numbers is impressive to anyone and should be well respected for his dedication. Granted the job of being the President in and of it's self is demanding...but to be able to demand more of yourself is impressive.
Also that was the LA Times...don't think their affiliation or political preference is in question as it's fairly common knowledge which way they lean.
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2005/08/08, 09:10 PM
I concurr with sstump1. I want that drive!!!
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2005/08/08, 11:28 PM
The problem is that the part of my post that you quoted as me being political was the quote from the LA Times that I had submitted for them being political; you did not quote me. I have yet to state anything political which is of my own. I was merely demonstrating how someone, who had busy days such as the President, could still stay in incredible shape, yet be attacked for not being what is now publicly accepted - fat. Read the last two paragraphs of my second post....
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Quoting from raulduke:
Bush not only thinks so, he thinks it goes for the rest of us as well. In 2002, he initiated a national fitness campaign. The four-day kickoff festivities included the president leading 400 White House staffers on a three-mile run…
My guess is that Bush associates exercise with discipline, and associates a lack of discipline with his younger, boozehound days. "The president," said Fleischer, "finds very healthy in terms of … keeping in shape. But it's also good for the mind." The notion of a connection between physical and mental potency is, of course, silly. (Consider all the perfectly toned airheads in Hollywood…)
Bush's insistence that the entire populace follow his example, and that his staff join him on a Long March — er, Long Run — carries about it the faint whiff of a cult of personality. It also shows how out of touch he is. It's nice for Bush that he can take an hour or two out of every day to run, bike or pump iron. Unfortunately, most of us have more demanding jobs than he does."
I thought this sounded a little political. I just think it's funny when people say they don't want to talk about politics, then proceed to give their political insight. Just an observation. no offense intended. From these posts it isn't much of a leap of faith to figure what their affiliations are.
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Michael
*ITS LEG DAY*
You already blew out your wraps.
Your towel cant absorb any more sweat.
Theres puke on the floor.
Your partner is passed out.
Theres a crowd gathering...
And that was just the warm up!
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2005/08/09, 09:00 AM
Whatever, I was merely stating the well-known fact that the media is slanted. it doesn't matter which way you lean, any article you read needs to be taken with a grain of salt, as there is no such thing as objective media.
My point was that normally you would be praising someone who has such a high stress level and busy schedule, but still manages to stay very fit. Instead they are dumping on Bush for taking care of himself as if it is unneccessary and narcissistic.
I wasn't stating my political views, just general knowledge.
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Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think.
Benjamin Disraeli
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2005/08/09, 11:02 AM
Agreed.....good post. The media complex is simply crazy...and yes I will say it, liberal! And the LA Times?? To quote them is to follow Michael Moore and his bomb throwers.
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Whatever, I was merely stating the well-known fact that the media is slanted. it doesn't matter which way you lean, any article you read needs to be taken with a grain of salt, as there is no such thing as objective media.
My point was that normally you would be praising someone who has such a high stress level and busy schedule, but still manages to stay very fit. Instead they are dumping on Bush for taking care of himself as if it is unneccessary and narcissistic.
I wasn't stating my political views, just general knowledge.
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2005/08/09, 01:55 PM
Whoah, Rush couldn't have said that better himself! I'll leave that one alone bb1.
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The strong shall stand, the weak will fall by the wayside.
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2005/08/09, 07:35 PM
raul...are you saying it's not true?
It's fairly well understood that the media is slanted (one way or another), but there's something else in this country that many consider to be a Socialist agenda and the rhetoric that some of these people spew is utterly incomprehensible and would be considered treason in many other countries (Yes even some countries that consider themselves to be Socialist).
I agree...take everything with a grain of salt, but there is a lot that needs to be flat out ignored.
Personally I don't care much for Rush...I see him as the the Michael Moore of the Right. He can be extreme in his accusations and his demeanor. Just not my kind of politics.
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2005/08/11, 01:10 PM
I am not a big fan of Rush either by the way, I am simply a realist. It would be much better if more of us were, look at facts, and not just talking points.
I like to think if there was a Democratic candidate that really had an agenda, was worthwhile, I would vote for them.
You have to admit that the faction of the party that is following the likes of Michael Moore are absolutely ruining the democratic party and what it stands for/stood for.
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If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
bb1fit@freetrainers.com
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2005/08/11, 01:40 PM
I agree. One Democrat that stands out as one of worthwhile that I might consider is Leiberman. I don't agree with some of his views...but he seems to be at least reasonable in his agenda.
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2005/08/11, 01:56 PM
A polititian is a politician is a polititian. They vote the way their contributors say to. Unfortunately the meaningful contributors are big business and corporate interests have little to do with the common man. I see less and less difference in Dems and Reps the longer I live. They work with a policy of "ready shoot aim" instead of the more traditional version.
I had never thought to compare Michael Moore and Rush but I agree Stump. You're exactly right. Neither help much.
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Prayer for the day: Lord, help me to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
Charlie
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