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wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/11/21, 02:10 PM Ok, this will probably stir a little controversy, but most of us here know not to read much into these. This post is geared more towards those members alway posting asking opinions on some routine they found in the latest issue of some magazine with a roided up bodybuilder on the front. A lot of times, these members are under the impression that they are following a routine by some champion bodybuilder. However, believe it or not, few if any of the articles supposedly written by the governator ever actually saw arnold's pen. Oftentimes, a magazine will pay a fitness celebrity to use their name. The magazine will then "ghost write" a training article and then claim it is training advice direct form said celebrity. Usually, the closest thing to a CSCS that the actual writer has is a degree in journalism. Thats right, you may have been taking exercise advice from someone that works in a cubicle, has a pencil neck, and often times has real fitness experiance. Another reason to doubt these magazines, is that even when hey ARE recieving credited advice from a real world source, this information is sometimes manipulated after submission. For example, one extremely popular mucle mag recently released an article by doctor John Berardi, a premier fitness expert and nutritionist, and an experianced powerlifter. Now, in this article, Berardi supposedly recommended a chocolate milk PWO. This doesn't make a lot of sense, so a member on a forum that berardi frequents questioned this. Here was berardi's response: "I recommended Surge. They took it out and replaced it with chocolate milk. That's what happens in publishing sometimes. There's nothing you can do. I guess choc. milk is better than nothing..." And so, maybe this will help some of the members as to understand why I always say to question everything, and furthermore, be wary of what you read. -------------- Yes I realize my shins are bleeding. And its called a deadlift. Any other questions??? If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/11/21, 08:20 PM You can get much more reliable and savvy info from sites like these once you weed out who not to listen to. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
	2005/11/21, 11:09 PM great point wrestler...
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/11/26, 11:00 PM Here's the latest in muscle and fitness: Arnold's ghostwriters take overtraining to a new level. For the first workout of the week, "Arnold" recommends a 45 set (seriously) chest and back routine that'll take four hours to complete and four weeks to recover from. Also, for females trying to avoid blocky abs but get a toned midsection, they recommend lowering the resistance and doing higher reps. -------------- Yes I realize my shins are bleeding. And its called a deadlift. Any other questions??? If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/11/26, 11:12 PM Sounds like ABC's crap. Anyone who reads those rag mags, ever count how many pages of advertising there are? Half the dam magazine! -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/11/27, 12:09 PM I wrote about these magazines on FT a long time ago. Hopefully our members are well educated and don't look to those rags. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/11/28, 01:50 PM Thats why I started this thread. In the powerlifting forum, guys are always asking for some routine from some magazine, and what people think about it. Not only is it not powerlifting, but its bull. I agree with you Ron, there is much better info on sites like this one. -------------- Yes I realize my shins are bleeding. And its called a deadlift. Any other questions??? If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
mikencharleston Posts: 1,585 Joined: 2002/01/09	2005/11/28, 02:24 PM I quit reading those things when Cory Everson was no longer in every issue. :) -------------- Mike in Pensacola Now.
5p829zr7wg Posts: 88 Joined: 2005/08/10	2005/11/28, 06:37 PM i just want to know if this routine would work because i got it from a magizine i do chest every 4-5 days and after six weeks im going to do strenght work for chest which includes strenght training for shoulders and triceps also Chest routine workout A Flat Bb Press 4x8 Flat Db Press 4x8 Incline Flyes 4x8 Dips 4x8 workout B Incline BB Press 4x8 Incline DB Press 4x8 Decline flyes 4x8 Decline BB press 4x8 Incline flyes 4x8 workout C Flat BB Press 4x8 Flat DB Press 4x8 Decline DB Press 4x8 Flat flyes 4x8 Dips 4x8
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/11/28, 07:16 PM If YOUR WANTING PURE STRENGTH...then no this workout sucks.....flys dont need to be in strength training. Wrestler....did you read the article in men fitness on "powerlifting" lol.....quite intresting. in one day you do close stance squats 3 sets..8 6 4 normal stance 8 6 4 deep squats 2x8 ham work 4 sets and calve raises... somthing like that....I'll have to find it...and post it...Quite humorous -------------- Friends don't let friends squat high... People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/11/29, 12:11 AM hmmmm. Thats what they're calling powerlifting now? Wow. And I thought the purpose of powerlifting was to build maximal relative strength in the big 3. I dunno, I've been to powerlifting meets, and I have never, NEVER seen someone squat with close stance. Medium stance AT THE CLOSEST, wide stance normally. Calf raises? Are you serious? 8,6,4? It makes me want to crawl into a squat cage and cry. -------------- Yes I realize my shins are bleeding. And its called a deadlift. Any other questions??? If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
	2005/11/29, 03:05 AM lol@picturing this:"It makes me want to crawl into a squat cage and cry."
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2005/11/29, 07:18 AM The squat cage is holy ground. Neither 1/4 reppers can stand to be there long nor the ones that insist that 30lb bb curls need to be done in the cage. -------------- Less Talk, More Chalk! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/11/29, 11:04 AM ============ Quoting from teflon93@aol.co: i just want to know if this routine would work because i got it from a magizine ============= Yea, this is what I am talking about. Yes menace, sometimes I take it a bit far... -------------- Yes I realize my shins are bleeding. And its called a deadlift. Any other questions??? If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/11/29, 11:05 AM ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. Neither 1/4 reppers can stand to be there long nor the ones that insist that 30lb bb curls need to be done in the cage. ============= im totally stealing this. -------------- ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. ============= If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2005/11/29, 11:13 AM ok -------------- Less Talk, More Chalk! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/11/29, 11:33 AM I have to say i have used the squat cage for curls...only cause there was no where else...but if somone wants to squat, then i will happly give it up... -------------- Friends don't let friends squat high... People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2005/11/29, 11:35 AM Me too but I would def move if one came up to me. -------------- Less Talk, More Chalk! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2005/11/29, 11:52 AM Yeah, I like to use it for rest/pause curls, but if someone wants to squat, by all means I do them elsewhere. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/11/29, 01:44 PM I don't curl, so I have no need to do them in the squat rack. -------------- If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous. ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. ============
5p829zr7wg Posts: 88 Joined: 2005/08/10	2005/12/03, 04:20 PM that chest routine was for mass not strength what i meant was that i was also doin strength training for my shoulders and tris to add a few pounds to my bench while still adding mass to them
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/12/03, 06:23 PM So then you post here about a mass, not a strength routine, and then you post in the powerlifting forum about getting stronger and faster as an athlete. Prioritize. And in answer to your question, if you can by the routine at a stand at the airport, then its probably outdated, poorly written, and generally ineffective. -------------- If you smoke or don’t wear your seatbelt, please don’t tell me the deadlift is dangerous. ============ Quoting from 7707mutt: The squat cage is holy ground. ============
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/12/05, 04:58 PM those mags are good for 2 things....the diet stuff is usually fairly right......and for reading on the "thrown" -------------- Friends don't let friends squat high... People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
	2005/12/06, 02:37 AM well...those mags are perfect on the toilet...and if the TP runs out....you get the point...
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/12/06, 02:39 PM lol -------------- Friends don't let friends squat high... People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
mrdeadly99 Posts: 124 Joined: 2005/09/21	2005/12/06, 02:45 PM lol, i had to do that once. it didnt feel too good, but it got the job done
MarlenaM Posts: 50 Joined: 2005/10/27	2005/12/07, 09:36 PM You guys are funny. I guess I'll stop buying my magazines. I think more then anything I read them for the success stories and at this point nothing else. Sometimes it motivates me to keep moving! I have to confess I read one last night. They featured an article on a workout for pregnant women; however the pictures of lady doing these exercises wasn't pregnant! Anyways, I have to agree, they aren't much help and have already taken up too much of my time!