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Did a mass phase now how to ?

Luvthemtorts Posts: 190 Joined: 2005/02/16	2006/01/11, 02:20 AM I recently finished a mass program where I ended up adding 12 pounds to my overall weight. Unfortunately some of it was fat and now it needs to go. It seems that it all ended up around my midsection (big surprise huh LOL). My diet during the mass program was HEAVY on protein and very light on carbs (Dr. recommendation not FT) to try and reduce the amount of fat stored versus muscle built. After I updated my nutrition planner for a "toning and weight loss" program it suggests eating around 475 grams of carbs and only 178 grams of protein. I was under the impression that carbs were more readily stored as fat versus protein. Am I wrong or am I overlooking something here? For my mass program I did the exact opposite. A little friendly advice would be greatly appreciated!!
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2006/01/11, 12:41 PM Carbs are basically(and I use that term loosely)easier stored as fat simply due to processing, etc. Thus they are more calorie dense. Both protein and carbs are approximately 4 calories per gram, so nutritionally about equal. The difference is in simple carbs. They have a higher glycemic index, easily(rapidly digested) so insulin is secreted.(storage hormone). Proteins can have this effect also, but to a lesser degree, as they are broken down into their amino acids. Fat on the other hand does not need insulin, it is stored fine on its own. -------------- Strength and Honor!
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2006/01/11, 01:28 PM I was under the impression that more complex carbs would equal more mass on a bulking phase. Is that not correct? Most of the bulking diets I've seen were an equal 40/40% split and 20% of fats.
Luvthemtorts Posts: 190 Joined: 2005/02/16	2006/01/11, 02:18 PM BB1fit, So would you recommend eating the amount of carbs that the FT planner suggests or would you pursue a more balanced ratio of carbs/protein/fat? My goal is to achieve the super ripped look this go around and I know diet is the key to reaching this goal. I just need help in getting it properly dialed in. Many thanks in advance!
Luvthemtorts Posts: 190 Joined: 2005/02/16	2006/01/11, 04:08 PM SStump1, You may be correct in your ratios however from what I have read this tends to lead to more fat gains along with the muscle. By using more protein I was willing to gain less muscle to keep the fat increases to a minimum. It seems to have worked well enough but I still gained some fat along with the residual amount I had before my mass cycle. This time I want to lose it ALL so am on a quest for a diet where this will be the end result. I am giving serious considerations to ordering John Basedows' tapes since he is quite lean. If he outlines the diet he uses then it would be worth the money. I think he gets a bad rap because people order his product and expect the changes to occur in a very short time frame or just aren't disciplined enough to stick with it. Course they may just be jealous LOL!
Luvthemtorts Posts: 190 Joined: 2005/02/16	2006/01/13, 01:16 AM Anybody out there? I am still trying to figure out if I should go with eating the large amount of carbs and cut back on protein like the FT plan suggests. I would truly appreciate any suggestions as I am currently at a standstill.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2006/01/13, 01:47 AM I believe that that number is way too high for most of us. Doing that much in carbs is not feasible trying to cut, but you need to gradually lower them, not all at once. I do not even take in that much bulking daily. -------------- Strength and Honor!