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2006/01/11, 04:29 PM
Ok, I got invited to train with a couple of the guys here that do strongman competitions. The only time I have had real experiance with this was that weekend I did @ DeFranco's.
The guy I am doing it with is pretty knowledgeable. The first day of training is 2-5 saturday. This should be great since I haven't been doing any real GPP since I stopped grappling, and the only condition has been a couple tabata workouts.
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2006/01/11, 07:32 PM
Yea, my first concern was there aren't usually weight classes. But, its just a training experiance. I might do a comp in Pittsburgh, but it would only be as a learning experiance, not competitively.
Apparently they have a few tires, farmers walk handles, and logs. Also, a couple weighted kegs.
The events in the comp they are training for is 500# tire flip, keg carry, log press and deadlift for reps.
It'll do me some good get out of the weight room.
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2006/01/11, 07:38 PM
wonder if we have these in the bay area...would definitely be fun to try one of these
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2006/01/13, 03:48 PM
You did the DeFranco's competition?
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I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-victorious.
--Vince Lombardi
"Decide what you want, decide what you are willing to exchange for it. Establish your priorities and go to work." H. L. Hunt
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2006/01/13, 05:12 PM
Not a competition, but a weekend training camp. It was intense, but very well organized.
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2006/01/14, 06:01 PM
Wow, so you guys want a good posterior chain workout? Try some keg carries. Damn. 175lb kegs (as opposed to my 135lb frame), for time, 2 kegs. My spinal erectors are fried.
I was pretty good at the tire flip. Just like a power clean, but with a 500lb tire. We did 2 person 975lb tire flips, that was tough. I managed to keep up with all the bigger guys.
Farmers walk wasn't easy. For the first time in a long time, I found my grip to falter. Then again, everything else fell with it. 185lbs per hand, on farmers walk handles.
We'll see if I can squat on Monday. Or deadlift on wednesday for that matter.
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2006/01/14, 06:15 PM
Wish I was there!
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2006/01/21, 08:14 PM
My god. Day 2:
The tires were freezing (we were outside) so it was almost impossible to grip them to rip and flip. Only did about 30 minutes on the tires.
I got the farmers walk a lot farther this time (185lbs per hand), and even managed to get my technique down for the turn.
I was moving a lot faster with the kegs. The first time, my second keg was like a snail crawl, this time I was actually moving.
Then I did a couple sets of push press. 135lbs. My weak point. The competition log will be 185lbs. I will be doing this by the time of the competition.
Took an hour break, ate as much as I could, and then it was time to set up for fighting. Only a couple guys turned out, and I was dead tired, so I didn't have anyone do any stand up. I ended up doing ground fighting with a couple of our heavy weights (200 and 230lbs). I was so tired, for the most part I just held on and waited for mistakes. Tonight was a good night though, because even though I was dead, and I was fighting with someone with a powerlifter that had 100lbs on me, I didn't lose a single spar. You can imagine me choking out a 230lb powerlifter, lol.
Training like this is either going to kill me, or make me stronger. I am thinking about moving up to welterweight. Heres my predicament:
At lightweight, most of the fighters are predominantly boxers and kick boxers. I can stand with these guys even though they box better than I do, becuase at 140, I have reach on all of them. Also, I am an excellent wrestler compared to what most of the light weights are, as they are mostly guys with martial arts back grounds, so I can take them to the mat and submit or ground and pound.
No with welterweights, I no longer have any reach. Also, most welterweights come from a wrestling background, so this nuetralizes my strong point.
However, Jared wants to turn the weightlifting club over to me if I am still here next year. If I am to lead both this club and the No holds barred club, I need to put on some weight or no one will take me seriously for the weightlifting club. Ohh decisions...
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2006/01/21, 09:45 PM
Ok, its been a couple of hours, and already I can feel what this workout does to me. I expect to see my deadlift shoot up because of what the keg carry does to my erectors. Also, the farmers walk is greater than my max DL, so its getting my body ready for heavy weight.
My grip is fried. Between fighting and training, my fingers just hurt. I think its time for bed.
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2006/01/22, 06:05 AM
i think it was randy coture that said something to the effect, i'd rather be the biggest middleweight than the smallest heavyweight.
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2006/01/22, 01:19 PM
exactly. but im being asked to take over the weightlifting club next year when jared leaves, and if I am going to be leading a club, I at least want to be competitive in it.
Menace, I know you visit the t-nation and other boards, and for anyone else interested: the RIT weightlifting club will be competing in the 2006 pitsburgh strongest man competition, along side: Diesel Wiesel.
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2006/01/22, 03:02 PM
NO WAY! that is too funny he is such a accident waiting to happen
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2006/01/23, 12:54 AM
a part of me still wants to believe that after all these years, he is still just kidding.
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2006/01/24, 09:44 AM
wrestler, this is only my 2 cents and actually probabally not even worth that, but here goes. it seems to me that MMA is your first love, with weightlifting being a very close second. if this is the case, then i would go with what i thought would make me the best that i could be. weightlifting and conditioning goes hand in hand with MMA. that being said, i would stick at or close to your current weight and go with the mma and weightlifting, because at your current weight i'd imagine that you are probabally one of the strongest in your group as well. why not have the best of both worlds at your disposal, i would if it were available to me. but then again the closest i've ever come to mma in person is a good ol' fashion tough man contest.
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2006/01/24, 01:45 PM
thanks sheperd, I appreciate it.
Ive decided to change fight styles, which have different weight classes. That way, I can go up from feather weight (140) to lightweight(155) which isn't as big a jump. If the extra strength and mass isn't doing it for me, I can cut back down to featherweight, which shouldn't be hard. I probably won't look for another fight until spring.
BTW, for anyone that cares, I am 2-1 now, so much for remaining undefeated. I was dominating a 5'6" kickboxer (not hard with my 6' reach) and in the second round I shot, took a horrible knee to the face, and while trying to shuck behind from the shot after the knee, took a boot to the side of the head. I was down and out.
I think I can bring my skills up a lot, as I am only getting to actually roll twice a month. I am trying to get our club the mat space 2 times a week if I can find people that are willing to do it consistently.
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2006/01/28, 08:15 PM
Todays training was brutal. I felt weaker than normal for the first couple sets. Started with tire flip, the 500lb tire sucked. I did my first set slowly and called it a warm up, and put some fire into my next two, and prob made good time, but I felt so run down and out of breath at the end of each set. Guess its time for some conditioning work. I'll prob try to get in a tabata workout sometime next week.
Keg carry was next. Three kegs this time, with a partner (so there were two kegs going in opposite direction each time). Keg landed on my two on my third set. It's swollen to about twice the normal size, and I'm pretty sure its broken (looks that way even with all the swelling) but I can walk ok.
Did suicides with the farmers walk to practice the turn. Its not easy turning with 190 in each hand. I think I'm getting it though. I actually beat a couple of the regular guys for distance on my second walk.
Worked on my push press for a bit. Close grip (18 inches) 3*5 with 135 (overhead strength is my weakness), and would have worked up, but my wrist popped.
Don't feel as beat up this time. Could be the fact that I had a mid workout protein and carb shake, as well as pre &pwo (working that weight up). Or just that my body is adapting to the training stress.
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2006/01/29, 04:17 AM
jeez....brutal....don't do anything stupid....go get the toe taken care off...if it's broken then get a cast put on...hardcore training is great but not at the expense of safety...
seems like you need another 50lb for the strongman...pretty brutal doing all this at 140-150lb.... especially at 6'....
good luck with the training though...
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2006/01/30, 02:28 PM
keep up the hard work Wrestler. Looks like you can carry one of me in each hand for the farmers walk! (172lbs):big_smile:
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2006/02/04, 07:44 PM
Not really feeling it today. No tires on account of weather, but started with DL. Pulled 315 * 3, felt good, solid. Now I just have to work up with this weight.
Hit 4 kegs today. Not bad considering my first day I could hardly get 2 of them. I'm moving pretty fast two. Probably had the full 5 in me, but no one else was attempting it, so I didn't. If someone had done 5, I would have just out of challenge. Only reason I did 315*3 for DL was that my workout partner hit 315*2. Now I realize what I need to bring up my totals.
Only did the farmers walk a few times.
Really low volume today. I wasn't really feeling exstatic. Time for a deload week.
On another note, since doing this and fighting, as well as lifting, no matter how much I eat, my blood sugar doesn't want to stabilize. I still feel dizzy all the time. Time to up the intake.
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2006/02/04, 09:55 PM
Wrestler that's amazing man i remember you saying you’re not a big guy and you’re doing that! , I know people who constantly pump iron at the gym and couldn’t be capable of it keep up the good work.
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2006/02/04, 10:00 PM
Thanks RKO. Unfortunately, that 315 was something I was capable of hitting a 9 months ago, before destroying my shoulders.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/02/05, 04:56 AM
Are you eating enough fiber wrestler?
What types of carbs are you eating throughout the day? Are you eating often enough? Seems like with increased training, you're probably burning at least 500-800 more calories.....also since you're putting your body under great duress with the strongmen training....you may need even more...
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2006/02/05, 01:35 PM
Actually, since upping my activity, I haven't. On Friday, I bought some fiber pills, realizing I haven't been getting my intake up to where it is. My protein intake is through the roof, so I think I need to increase my fiber intake proportionately.
Thanks menace.
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2006/02/07, 09:53 PM
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upped the intake, and feeling better already. Thanks menace.
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2006/03/19, 11:12 AM
Glute ham raise.
Chain yoke is a yoke walk (basicly a heavy barbell walk) but with weight suspended from chains. The swinging weight is very difficult to stabilize.
Events and videos here: http://ctstrongman.com/STA06_Events.html
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2006/02/11, 04:59 PM
Ouch. Thats all I can say.
Tires were frozen today, and the track was covered in snow, which gradually became ice after being packed down over and over by a 500+lb tire. It was almost impossible to grip, and I was the only one that could get it the entire length today (I'd like to thank all the grip training I've done in the past). I crimped the tired by the middle treads, dug into the snow/ice with my heals, and tried to pop under the tire each time without loosing footing. You want functional training? Flip a ~~~~ tire on ice.
Went inside for farmers walks. Worked up to 205 per hand, lost some callouses today.
Then did the kegs, and I managed to keep up by hitting a full 4 kegs. I don't think I've ever been more pissed off in my life than when I popped that 4th keg up. I'm told my energy was contagious, but seeing as I was lying on my back for the next 5 minutes, I didn't notice.
Hit the jerk for a bit. I have never gone over 135lbs overhead (my wrists and shoulders beg me not to) but I decided to say ~~~~ it today. They put on 155lbs, and I was like, I'll try a single. Ended up hitting a triple, and my reps were quick, just like they should be. Then went for 165, locked it out and called it a day.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/02/12, 04:21 AM
Not sure how true it is...but was reading in Men's Health that some 'new research' suggests that weight lifting...burns as much as 60% more calories that previously thought...well...they are talking about some stupid leg extensions or some other crap that they usually include in studies that is easier to measure....flipping tire in freezing temperature...or doing some hardcore exercises at heavy intensity...burns even more...I am guessing your caloric intake is too low ....
I am glad you upped the fiber intake...try to spread it out over the day...I aim for 30-35g....
I also think increasing fish oil intake to at least 10g a day is a good idea also...
glad you had a good workout...soon you'll be lifting those tires overhead.......
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2006/02/18, 08:36 PM
Was a little late (I was captain of our dorm's flag football team), but got there just in time to do kegs. They were finishing up, so I went back to back. Did 6 runs (12 kegs) with 30(s) between kegs. Kegs still felt heavy, but I was moving much faster than I ever have with them.
Did some light overhead squats to loosen up my hips. Then went on to grip work and zercher squats. It was my first time doing zercher squats, and I wasn't really feeling that healthy (throwing up in between attempts, light headed) so I worked up to a triple at 205.
Went on to the jerk. Worked up to a single at 175(pr). It felt fast, so I did an attempt at 185 (competition weight). Came within an inch of lockout my second attempt.
Did some hyperextensions, cursed our lack of a GHR.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/03/07, 09:09 PM
No training this week, so decided to make up for this by doing a complex on monday and climbing today.
We're switching venues. We will be competing in the "Stronger than All".
http://www.ctstrongman.com/STA06_Events.html
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/03/18, 05:48 PM
Started with rack lockouts today. I opted for GHR on a ball since I already DLd twice this week.
Trained chain yoke with 225 on bar and 180 on chains. Almost passed out from pressure on my second walk, I was being ushered in by Jared, then by two Jareds, and decided to stop when Jared disappeared.
I got us a thick bar db, 2", to train for the inch clean and press. The dbs in competition will be 2.5", but it was the best I could do. Ordered rolling thunder last week. Did 90 lbs for singles, no one could clean 115. Too much of a jump IMO.
Then practiced keg lift to platform. I found strength I didn't know I had. Training with a 185lber, so the 150 in competition will be easy.
Only 2 more weeks to competition. For me, thats two more weeks I have to go w/out injuring myself.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/03/18, 08:25 PM
Sounds awesome man.....hope you keep progressing the way you want...
btw what's GHR...I know I have seen it before...but I keep forgetting what it is....
what about chain yolk? is it a strongman exercise?
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2006/03/19, 12:40 PM
cool...sounds painful...LOL
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2006/03/19, 06:10 PM
Yea. I feel shorter.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/03/21, 05:08 PM
your insane... dude.. i cant lift any of that stuff... or at least not at those weights. i just started doing power cleans... im struggling for 115 cuz i still havent perfected form yet... but even still i cant hope to hit much. ahhhhh
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2006/03/21, 06:32 PM
Dude didn't look like he had that great of form on the one-armed power clean? The Chain Yoke looks incrediblly tough.
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I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-victorious.
--Vince Lombardi
"Decide what you want, decide what you are willing to exchange for it. Establish your priorities and go to work." H. L. Hunt
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2006/03/21, 07:34 PM
ha ha. Form on a one armed thick bar clean.
I'm struggling to hold on to the thing. I can clean and press a 110lb db no problem, but I look like a pansy when I do even 85 on the thick bar. And our db is 2", not the 2.5 for competition.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/03/24, 05:52 PM
Media...
http://www.rochesterinsider.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060324/INSIDER03/603240329
http://ritstrongmen.com/videos/StrongmanVideo.avi
Nothing really great in the video, its from our second week of training. We're looking to get some more footage tomorrow, and make a reel with that and competition footage.
What do you guys think of my ronnie coleman impression? I know its kinda high pitched after 5 keg runs of hell, but it made everyone else laugh.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/03/25, 07:58 PM
Last day before competition, and an amazing day.
Pulled 365 from 14 inches. Now I just need to figure out how to get 405 from 18.
Yoke walk: Actually hit 465. It was huge. Competition weight will only be 365.
DB Clean and press: I had a crowd when I was doing this. Hit the 105 np, and got the fastest time overall. I attribute this to my great jerk form.
Medly: Conans walk (zercher) with 265, keg run with 180, and duck walk with rolling thunder with 180. Keg is 30lbs over competition, and I was literally running with it today.
Its amazing how fast I progress when training right and staying injury free.
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Iron and chalk.
Pain is only temporary, it is in your mind. If you can still walk, then you can still run.
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2006/03/25, 08:29 PM
Best of luck with the competition man, sounds like your on an upswing, stay injury free.
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2006/03/26, 12:54 AM
"And one of the guys actually only weighs about 140 pounds, and he's right there with us in all the events."
looks to me like your ahead of some of them. way to go dude... i really wish i could lift with you so maybe i could get some real inspiration and someone to push me... maybe i will make a road trip up to Rochester this summer- i feel like a pussy after lookign at the things you are doin- i want to go lift now... to bad its 1am...
anyway Good luck dude... your doing awesome!
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2006/03/27, 12:13 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate the encouragement.
Nate, I'll be in rochester for part of the summer, and in new paltz (lower NY) for part, training with another group. Whatever is convenient for you if your serious. I will either be training for another competition or a fight.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/03/27, 12:22 AM
I'm deloading this week in preparation to peak. I am over due. I feel drastically overtrained. Although my lifts aren't stalled, I am lacking motivation, sleep is suffering (worse than usual) and my appetite is suffering.
Sunday's workout was only good because of the massive complex of B taken in anticipation of a weak workout. A good B complex can temporarily off-set symptoms of overtraining by enhancing neural drive.
Will only be in the gym twice this week.
I'm gunna do some olympic lifting and some rolling thunder work on Tuesday and some SE work on Thursday. I hope to see an ART guy on Thursday as well.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/03/27, 02:07 AM
sounds good....good luck with everything...
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2006/03/27, 11:19 AM
definetely dude. I will look into it after NCAA is over. My school that i attend (GMU) is doing pretty good! Wish them luck!
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2006/03/27, 01:05 PM
GMU huh? I will probably be in virginia for a week or two, but no idea what I will be doing for training that week. Maybe I'll have to visit you.
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Iron and chalk.
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2006/03/27, 02:51 PM
indeed... i use the athletes facility cuz, well, it doesnt have all the fake people there... let me know when you plan on doin that so we can set something up...
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2006/03/29, 05:43 PM
i didn't realize how small (weight wise) you were wrestler. that's impressive what you're able to do at your size. do you stay at that weight due to wrestling? it would be interesting to see what you're capable of doing at a higher weight.
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2006/04/02, 11:02 PM
posted results in the living healthy/relationships forum.
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