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Beginner adding protein to diet

dimplez86
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2006/01/11, 08:04 PM
Hi everyone!!! I just started weight training for about a week now thanks to the fitness plan on this website. But now I want to add whey protein to my diet. I just ordered some which should be here any day now. I was wondering how much whey protein should i drink especially since I'm still trying to lose weight and add definition to my body? Or if I should be using it at all since I am a female.

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fighting_london
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2006/01/12, 12:19 AM
When using protein supplements, make sure you're getting lots of water to dilute the urine (just as a safety precaution - too much protein can damage your kidneys).

How much protein is in each serving of the shake? You don't want anything more than 30 grams of protein per serving depending on your body type and mass and whatnot. Body just can't process too much protein, and the excess is excreted out.

If its 15-30 grams per serving, take the whole serving. More than 30 grams, take 1/2 to 2/3 serving depending on how much protein it is.
flyonthewall
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2006/01/12, 09:26 AM
Dimplez, You should be able to get enough protein from eating lean meats, LF cheeses, eggs etc. I believe the general consensus here is about 1-1.5g protein per lb of your weight...so if you weigh 120lb you should try and get 120-180g protein per day (someone correct me if I'm wrong here!) If you're doing heavy training lean towards the 1.5g. But again, try and get as much protein from natural food sources. Personally, I use whey protein if I'm in a hurry and know I won't make my protein levels that day, or I will sometimes take it immediately after a wt session, again if I know I won't get anything into me for a while.

There is no issue taking it as a female and there is generally no real issue with kidney damage.

Hope this helps and welcome to FT.

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2006/01/12, 10:16 AM
Healthy people do not get kidney damage from "overconsumption of protein"...this is a myth that just won't die....also what is over consumption for one is perfectly normal for another...

Also the body will process as much protein as you take in...it might not be wise to consume too much because they are still calories and will be turned to fat after a certain point...this is yet another misconception/myth....

While dieting it's a good idea to take in a bit more protein than normal to prevent muscle breakdown....1.1-1.5g per lb of bodyweight is the norm....you should probably split up the total number into 5-8 smaller meals....the reason it's better to take lets say 150 calories in 5 meals of 30 g is because the body will use the calories and protein consumed more efficiently....then if you just two big meals with 75g per meal....

Just wanted to mention that you already consume protein in your diet(meats,poultry, dairy, legumes, nuts, grains, fish, etc)....you're just 'supplementing' on top....the reason people take protein shakes is because they are easy to make, count as a meal, and fast to consume/digest.....


good luck and welcome to freetrainers
2006/01/12, 10:19 AM
150 grams in 5 meals *......really need the edit feature LOL
bb1fit
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2006/01/12, 12:07 PM
We are working on them! :)

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fighting_london
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2006/01/12, 11:59 PM
Here's an article I found:

High Protein Diets & Kidney Problems, Dehydration & Strain, Ketosis, Protein Information - High Protein Diets & Kidney Problems

High protein diets increase risk to kidneys?

High-protein diets used as a means of losing weight could be damaging to the kidneys, according to a warning from the American Kidney Fund (AKF). The diets place such a significant strain on the kidneys that even conditioned athletes can become dehydrated, the AKF said, citing researchers at the University of Connecticut.

Paul W. Crawford, the AKF's chairman of medical affairs, said: "We have long suspected that high-protein weight loss diets could have a negative impact on the kidneys, and now we have research to support our suspicions. Dehydration forces the kidneys to work harder to clean toxins from the blood. Kidneys not only filter the blood, but they also help regulate blood pressure and the number of red blood cells."

"Increased protein intake leads to a build-up of nitrogen in the blood. The nitrogen ends up at the kidney in the form of urea, where it needs to be cleaned from the blood and got rid of in the urine," explained Crawford. "The resulting increase in urination can cause dehydration, further straining the kidneys," he added.
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There is such thing as too much protein. There's this girl in my health and fitness class (I'm minoring in athletic training and rehabilitation) who takes Mega Whey - 60g of protein per serving - 3 times a day on top of a high protein diet. She's maybe 110lbs and taking in more than twice her weight in grams of protein. That is too much. She's such a gym bunny. She does light intensity weights for nearly 50 reps, and wanders around the gym.

Take in more protein than you need, the rest is going to be wasted.
wrestler125
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2006/01/13, 01:39 PM
too much protein can damage your kidneys. That is a myth.
If your kidneys are healthy, they are designed to take in as much as you can handle.
However, if they are not healthy, than yes, protein will affect their kidneys. However, in this case, even the SLIGHTEST amount of protein will cause kidney problems. So go ahead and load up on it. If it goes through your system, then so what?
As for your article, I want to see the research to back it up. There is not a single research study out there that can show that increased protein intake can lead to kidney problems. It is that speculation BS. I have met BB's that have taken in as much as 3-4 grams per lb of bodyweight, and I have never met one with kidney problems. Its a myth, and at best a theory.
Unless you can prove that your girl has had kidney problems due to her high protein intake, I don't see the relavance.

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