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Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2006/05/31, 05:05 PM Yes thats right "Butt Police (inspectors) As of today it is illegal to smoke anywhere in a public place here in Quebec. Restaurants and bars included. The government hired 75 inspectors to go around and give fines to smokers and owners of places who break the law. Congratulations for the smoke free environment. -------------- Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet! Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press. Ivan Montreal Canada

yadmit Posts: 4,670 Joined: 2003/10/05	2006/05/31, 05:20 PM Same thing starts in Red Deer tomorrow... some angry folk. t -------------- I am training for birthdays. Be here. Live. Love. Hope. Now. Faith. Believe. You. - Keith Urban
slorbets Posts: 205 Joined: 2006/04/07	2006/05/31, 06:38 PM thats great! I am glad we are creating smoke free environments. Its a great change! I dont care what anyone says, smokers are dirty!
Mojo_67 Posts: 1,299 Joined: 2003/09/23	2006/06/01, 12:46 AM That's being a little stereotypical isn't it slorbets? You act like your $hit don't stink.:) -------------- Days go by and life drags on.....
	2006/06/01, 04:05 AM glad to hear it....wish they'd enact it in san francisco...pretty much like canada in other ways....just need to ship a few conservatives/smokers east...LOL....
mysticgraces Posts: 422 Joined: 2006/02/21	2006/06/01, 06:52 AM Same goes for Ontario...PQ and ontario started on the same day...alot of angry people out there...
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/01, 09:33 AM Well Slorbets...that was rude.I'm a smoker,and I am not dirty by any means!!!I agree it is a nasty ,ugly habbit.I've tried to quit so many times it's ridiculous!But I don't smoke in the house or in the car,in a public place I go where no one else is to smoke.I wish I had never started,it's a horrible habbit.But I think it is pretty narrow minded to say all smokers are "dirty". On another note...I'm glad they are passing the laws they are about not smoking in public places.I also hope that the tax hikes(here in the states)will soon make it impossible to smoke!!If they had any of these laws in place when I was a kid,if a pack of cigarrets wasn't .75 cents a pack and you couldn't get them at the bowling ally or a local store that didn't care how old you were,I would have never been able to pick up the habbit in the first place.
slorbets Posts: 205 Joined: 2006/04/07	2006/06/01, 01:16 PM I appologize, I dont mean that people who smoke are dirty, but i think smoking is a diry habbit. I think it is great if people try to quit, i am aware that some older people started smoking before they knew of the risks, years of smoking makes it harder to quit, but it sickens me to see young kids out there smoking. It disgusts me, and i am glad I can now go out in public and not have to breathe in that stuff!
	2006/06/01, 02:34 PM agreed.... getting cheaper in san francisco...some packs under 4$....:/...the tobacco companies cut the price...to circumvent the tax increases...so now they make profits through the volume they sell....good old tobacco companies...:/
Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2006/06/01, 05:08 PM One can pay as high as $9.25cdn here. -------------- Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet! Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press. Ivan Montreal Canada
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2006/06/08, 11:30 AM Well I'm a very recent ex-smoker...yes after all this time of posting on these boards I kept that little tidbit quite, I came clean back in the member section just last week though. But it's been about 3 weeks now and I am doing fine after going cold turkey. Regardless my opinion on the subject differs from most of yours...maybe it's a Texas thing. In my opinion for any government to tell a Restaurant owner or any business owner for that matter, that they can't allow a perfectly legal activity to take place in their business is an infringement on everyones rights (American/Canadien/other). Let the consumer be the judge, the only way government should be involved is by telling the business owners to place signs up as to whether it's a smoking or non-smoking facility...let free marketplace determine the outcome of that business. Whether you're a smoker or not you should be concerned about this type of government intervention.
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/08, 11:59 AM Yes...I would say it's a Texas thing!!I'm a recent "transplant"to texas(from northern Ca.)Texans defineatly have their OWN opinion on everything.I believe you all when you say you are from the "country" of Texas.Don't bite my head off,not trying to say anything bad about your mother land...I've had alot of fun here. I'm really writing to say congratulations on quiting!!!I've quit several times,I pray the next time I quit will be the last!!Just be careful...just when you think you got the monster kicked..it sneaks back up on you...makes you think you could smoke just one,or two...or two a day.. because you're still in control.Good luck to you...and congratulations again.
ATIGER Posts: 992 Joined: 2003/02/26	2006/06/08, 12:07 PM I am in Alabama and have never smoked but agree with Stump. If a place decides to let people smoke then it should be their choice. i hate being around it and smelling the smoke but I would just go somewhere else. The owners will have to take that chance. If people did not go there, they would have to change on their own not by government. Again , not a Texas thing
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2006/06/08, 12:12 PM I dunno we have had it here for a long time now it is illegal to smoke any public place except for putdoor concerts etc. The bars we the last place about a year or two and for 99.9% they all actually increased business. I feel like this, smoking is a CHOICE on the smokers part to do it, it is NOT a choice of mine to be out in public and have to smell and breath it. After all it is not like smoking only hurts the smoker, most studies proved that that majority of problems from smoking is from second hand smoke. that is why I have no sympthay for smokers that complain about the smoking laws. However if you want let me eat a few dozen cans of beans and go into a enclosed space with me I will fart and you can smoke! LOL -------------- Less Talk, More Chalk! The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
ATIGER Posts: 992 Joined: 2003/02/26	2006/06/08, 12:21 PM We need an anti-bean law...quick
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/08, 12:35 PM Mutt...I agree with you 100%.There are laws against drinking and driving for the safety of everybody else on the road...not the drunk driver.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2006/06/08, 12:39 PM I am just saying my farts while nasty smelling will not kill you. I actually have growled and chased smokers when my kids are near by and the arsehols light up......that is not cool!:angry: -------------- Less Talk, More Chalk! The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/08, 01:09 PM Thanks for sharing...glad to know your farts smell nasty!! Mine smell like roses!:)
ATIGER Posts: 992 Joined: 2003/02/26	2006/06/08, 01:12 PM I agree with some smokers being inconsiderate. If they are allowed to smoke in a place. i go somewhere else
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2006/06/08, 02:18 PM ============ Quoting from KC_72: Mutt...I agree with you 100%.There are laws against drinking and driving for the safety of everybody else on the road...not the drunk driver. ============= Regardless of the law there are still 10's of thousands of deaths a year due to drinking and then getting behind the wheel. So should we ban the consumption of alcohol in public? Read up a little about prohibition. Also Mutt...methane is a toxic chemical, so maybe the government should regulate your bean intake. :big_smile: I'm sure I can find research that methane in large quantities is just as harmful as 2nd hand cig smoke. Don't get me wrong guys...I certainly am not arguing that cig smoke (1st or 2nd hand) isn't harmful...but until it is determined that is it an illegal substance then the government shouldn't be able to tell business owners what to do in their own establishments. It is no different then the government telling a smoker they can't smoke in their own home. Is this an ability that you're willing to give our government? Can you honestly tell me that the government isn't overstretching it's bounds.
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2006/06/08, 02:23 PM Methane poisoning. Told ya I'd find something: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001448.htm
flyonthewall Posts: 1,823 Joined: 2005/01/18	2006/06/08, 03:59 PM Regardless of the right or wrong of it, I for one was thrilled when they banned it from all bars and restaraunts. I know longer had to shower when I got home from the pub to get rid of the cig smell and my clothes didn't reak either. Any of my friends that still smoked either quit or have cut way down when they're out. I know the wait and bar staff appreciate it as well. There was a blip in business at first, but now they are doing better than ever!
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/08, 04:03 PM I'm not sure what happened but the above post is mine.
slorbets Posts: 205 Joined: 2006/04/07	2006/06/08, 04:14 PM The most sickening thing is to see parents smoking in their cars with all the windows rolled up, with their little kids sitting in the back seat! DISGUSTING! I also agree with flyonthewall...it is great to be able to go out now, and not have to shower asap! Its also great to go to a resaurant and not have to inhale smoke while eatting!
Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2006/06/08, 04:42 PM They also have banned cigarette machines and stores will have to keep the cigarettes out of site. What I see, is the government will make it so difficult, that people will quit, and medical expenses will be cut down for the government. -------------- Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet! Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press. Ivan Montreal Canada
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2006/06/08, 04:46 PM No they will not quit, just buy somwhere else. -------------- Less Talk, More Chalk! The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/08, 04:55 PM No mutt we'll all quit eventually,or be dead.They are going to $5 a pack here in september(which I'm guessing is cheap compared to canada)so I'm cutting back and I will quit by sept,this will be the last time I quit..all the other times were practice for the big event!There are still alot of smokers but not nearly as many as even ten years ago....because of laws like these.
ATIGER Posts: 992 Joined: 2003/02/26	2006/06/08, 05:02 PM i am all for raising the prices and making it very hard to get but in the end i agree with Mutt, there will be just as many smokers but they will have less money I think the reason there are less smokers is more health reasons then price. Most all smokers that I know that have quit, did so due to health not price
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/08, 05:18 PM Well...smoking hasn't affected my health at this point in my life...so I for one am quitting due to price.
ATIGER Posts: 992 Joined: 2003/02/26	2006/06/08, 05:39 PM it has affected your health but it may not kill you now
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/08, 05:52 PM You're right...I shouldn't say it hasn't affected my health.In ways I'm not aware of.
ATIGER Posts: 992 Joined: 2003/02/26	2006/06/08, 05:58 PM congrats on quitting - lucky for me, i have never smoked (excpet for about a pack when i was 13 trying to be cool). They say that if your parents smoke that you are more likely to smoke but it was the opposite for me. I hated my mother to smoke.
Ravenbeauty Posts: 3,755 Joined: 2002/09/24	2006/06/08, 10:18 PM Wow, Washington has been smoke free since 6 months ago, i had worked previously with a lot of people that smoke and I did not like sharing their space, my old boss was a smoker too, but at least she had the decency and respect to smoke away from me, not many others did so. I personally am glad the have smoke free bars and restaurants now, i loved going dancing but hated coming home with cigarette smoke scented hair and clothing. -------------- Bettia.... You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. -Mark Twain ravenbeauty@freetrainers.com
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2006/06/09, 02:26 PM Well glad I could make you feel at home. :) Tell your husband thanks for his service!! I can only say things like this because of people like your husband that have fought for me and everyone else here to have that right.
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2006/06/09, 01:19 PM ============ Quoting from null: Governing that people don't smoke in a public place is no where near telling someone they can't smoke in their own home. ============= Hate to say it but you're wrong here. Essentially it's saying that you (the owner of a private establishment) can't make decisions about what to allow or disallow in the building and business that you own and manage. Is that any different then the government saying that you can't smoke in your own home. The law doesn't say that a smoker can't smoke in a public place it says that a business owner doesn't have the right to allow smoking in their business...you gotta read between the lines on this. The businesses have had the right to refuse service or make a non-smoking restaurant all along. Just like stores and the likes did years ago. I'm telling you that government regulations/oversight/law isn't the way to go on this, it's public education and free market that should drive the needs and wants of the community. That's the way our founding fathers intended it to be!! Oh at least in the U.S....don't know about you Canadians...weren't ya'll founded by Penguins and Polar bears? Just kidding!:big_smile: All seriousness aside on the subject of giving up our freedoms and rights. :angry: I quit smoking mostly for money. Last year was my year to take care of my physical/mental health and this year is to take care of my financial health...the smoking helps in both of those areas. So by the end of next year I am planning to be mostly out of debt and be down to only my house payment and household bills...everything else is going to retirement funds and kids college (got it started and then slacked off over the years). I really think I've reversed most of the damage smoking has caused in the last year, as I haven't seen much improvement in recent weeks in my health or lung capacity. Which does make quitting harder in some cases as I have to keep myself reminded of my financial goals and if I open the pandora's box again I'm throwing away $2000 + a year.
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/09, 01:44 PM Again I disagree with you on this subject...my private home is not a public gathering place.However I am going to concede this to you,as you are far more passionate about this subject than I. My original intent was just to congratulate you on quiting smoking...so congratulations on that ,and your personal goals as well.:)
sstump1 Posts: 1,227 Joined: 2005/03/20	2006/06/09, 02:00 PM No harm intended...but you're right I am passionate about it...not about smoking, but Freedoms and Rights...regardless of who is involved. Thanks for the congrats! Now you got 90 days till the 75 cent tax takes effect and till the end of the year before another quarter is tacked onto that. Good luck to you!
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/09, 02:16 PM I've decided not to wait that long.I opened a pack yesterday.That will last me through the weekend(while I mentally prepare)and monday will be the big day. Your passion is refreshing,well lobbying for your rights because you are an American is refreshing.We have been back in the states for about 6 months.My husband was stationed overseas in Spain for the last 3 years,where we couldn't fly an American flag on our home(on base)except for the 4th of July,we were told not to leave the base once a year while the Spanish residents protested the American military presence in Spain,and I had to look at anti-American,anti-war, slogans sprawled all over the walls every where we went out in town. So debating what our "for fathers" inteaded for us,even though our opinions differ,was a breath of fresh air!!:)
KC_72 Posts: 3,249 Joined: 2006/05/19	2006/06/09, 03:04 PM Thank you...I will. And to all other service members,past and present.. Thank You:love:
Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2006/06/09, 05:08 PM ============ Quoting from atiger: it has affected your health but it may not kill you now ============= It is kind of like blocked arteries then the heart attack. First the arteries are 5% blocked then 10, then 20 etc, then at 90% blockage the alarm goes off with the heart attack, all the time we didn't realise we were in poor health. The same can work for diseases from cigarettes. Congrats to all that quit and or have made thier mind up to quit. As an 40 a day smoker I'm glad I did itin 2001 because of price and having to take cigarette breaks during my training, go figure. -------------- Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet! Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press. Ivan Montreal Canada