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2002/11/30, 04:38 PM
Perhaps you guys that know alot about meal replacements/supplements can answer this accurately.
I have done alot of reading on this subject but i find mixed attidudes.
I went to a cardiologist, and I showed him a packet of Myoplex, which is a food replacement, and is well balanced in nutrition. But it has 42g per serving of protein in it. The doc said that that is too much to be taking if u take 3 of those per day, and eat 3 more meals with protein in them. Because I would be eating about 160g of protein a day.
I thought that was a little weird, since you should be eating close to 1 g per body mass when u are lifting right? I am 320 lbs and my lean mass is 227 lbs.
But, what is "too much protein"? that can cause kidney problems etc
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2002/11/30, 04:42 PM
Also, i went to 2 more cardiologists and they said the myoplex is fine.
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2002/11/30, 05:12 PM
As I have posted previously, you will get this argument continuously from dieticians, no matter what there "expertise". Some dieticians just are not schooled in the resistance training atheletes needs, and don't want to be. When you are experiencing muscle catabolism on an almost daily basis, if you don't supply yourself with enough protein, what do you think will happen? The body can only store carbohydrates and fats, not protein. If you do not give it frequent proteins for rebuilding, where will it get it? You will start experinecing just the opposite of what you want, losing muscle. Seek out the people that look like you want to look! Ask them how much protein they are taking in. Then take a look at the cardiologist. How does he look? Good luck...
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2002/11/30, 09:57 PM
Remember the cardiologist specialises in cardiovascular
medicine and not food science!
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The trouble with jogging is that, by the time you realize you are not in shape for it, it is too far to walk back! Franklin P. Jones
Ivan Montreal Canada
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2002/11/30, 11:39 PM
you are right bb1fit, I was just curious to see what you would say.
By the way, one doc that said it was good to take myoplex actually used it and loved it. The one that told me not to use it was overweight lol.
What are your thoughts on the atkins diet?
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2002/12/01, 03:30 AM
I would never show my diet to a "normal" nutritionist or doctor...... They wouldn't understand anything at all!
We are BBs and not sedentaries and we got different needs.
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- Nina :o) Les Victoires éternelles sont celles du coeur.
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2002/12/04, 12:55 PM
I certainly think that some people overuse protein supplements. Optimally, you'd get all your protein from real food (except maybe PWO). Obviously that isn't practical. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you're going into a Body for Life program? I have my own thoughts on BFL, but that's not important. The 1g protein/pound of body weight is generally a pretty good mark to shoot for. And while you can get too much protein, a normal (read: amount that you can practically consume) amount is not harmful. I weigh in at 165, and I get upwards to 250g per day on my cutting phase. This is not because I need that much, but because I like to keep carbs under 200g while cutting and need to make up the extra calories. It is easiest for me to do so with protein. In reality, there is an obvious threshold as to the amount of protein that you consume that will actually go toward synthesis, but I honestly don't know what it is. My guess (I repeat: guess) is it's probably around 1.2g/lb of bodyweight.
As for the kidney problems, no study has been able to prove this. The studies in existence were performed on subjects that already had some sort of renal failure and can't be applied to healthy individuals. You would think if high protein caused kidney damage, we'd see an epidemic of that condition among older bodybuilders and high-level atheletes.
Okay, I'm done.
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