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2006/12/06, 08:05 AM
Wanted to post this a day early. Thanks to all that gave there all!
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7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/12/06, 11:20 AM
Aboslutely. Great point, Mutt. The Great Generation.
Unfortunately, as the years go on, the sections in mondern school history books that cover the entire world-changing event known as WWII gets smaller. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. I often wonder, with the modern apathetic mentality worldwide, how people would repsond to such a horrific act, as well as the subsequent events, if it occured today...
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Michael
That which does not kill me... would probably kill you.
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2006/12/06, 11:23 AM
Hence the reason each year I try to keep the memory alive. And you can bet my sons will be educated on it. It shames me that most in america know what spears is wearing or not wearing but have no idea what the 7th of Dec and other such dates means
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2006/12/06, 11:30 AM
Amen !!!
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Beyond Training, Beyond Experience, Nutrition Wins
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2006/12/06, 11:31 AM
I wonder how many see that post and go, 12/7/41, what does that mean? :(
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Maximus from Gladiator....Strength and Honor!
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2006/12/06, 11:36 AM
(wink) why do you think I put it that way?
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Curl Jockeys, get outta the squat rack!
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2006/12/06, 11:46 AM
LOL! I know this is going to sound sick, but I thank God for 12/7/1941...I am of (the majority) Japanese descent...I am not thanking God for the Loss of live but for the evenet that catapulted us into war...if it was not for that day and what we did following that day my grandfather wouldn't have meet my grandmother during the WWII recontruction effort in Japan hence creating my mother....So I am kinda mixed I love this day Yet I still cry at the very site of the Arizona...If you never have been to Pearl Harbor, please make it a point to do so It is very moving as I plan my april trip to see peace memorial park in Hiroshima, Japan.......THANKS FOR THE POST MUTT
There is no greater love than laying down your life for your fellow brother--nov 8th intro
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2006/12/06, 11:47 AM
Very very sad to say, if it weren't for an episode of Malcolm in the Middle that I JUST watched last week, I would have had no clue what you were talking about. High schools today are lacking in SOOOOOOOOOOO many areas. :(
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2006/12/06, 12:06 PM
I was at Pearl Harbor about 23 years ago as a kid and the memories are as fresh today as they were the day I left. A very powerful place. I also recommend going if you can.
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Beyond Training, Beyond Experience, Nutrition Wins
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2006/12/06, 07:42 PM
It is up to us parents to educate our children on the history of our country and the world for that matter.
I am so thankful that I have a couple of kids who want to know how we became where we are today and where we are heading for tomorrow. It is an amazing thing to sit with your 17 year old son and 13 year old daughter and have an intellectual discussion with him based on history, politics and religion. For them it isn't always about the latest speed metal bands and movies.
I even thank God for my grunters who, even though they don't care too much today about historical documentaries, books and movies I still insist on them watching, they will value it as an adult and appreciate all that was taught to them.
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Bettia
To be motivated, motivate others!
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2006/12/06, 07:50 PM
D Day. I have a friend whose birthday is on 12/7 and my greatgrandpa's birthday is on 9/11.
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Veni,Vidi,Vici.= I came, I saw, I conquered.- Ceasar
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2006/12/06, 08:33 PM
D Day?
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Curl Jockeys, get outta the squat rack!
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7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/12/06, 10:08 PM
Oh well, its just too bad sometimes.
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A little discipline at the table and at the gym might help reduce that belly!
Ivan
Montreal Canada (City of Festivals)
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2006/12/06, 10:49 PM
God Bless the youth of this country.
He came, He Spoke, He is an (fill in the blank)
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Beyond Training, Beyond Experience, Nutrition Wins
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2006/12/06, 11:15 PM
be nice......:cool:
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Bettia
To be motivated, motivate others!
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2006/12/07, 09:04 AM
Pearl Harbor! the offical act of war commited by Japan! I sure hope he didn't mean it was D-Day?!? Anyway what was more sad is that the local morning news didnt even comment on the story/anniversary? I almost was offended but then realized they are a querky morning show and wait til evening news...but haven't seen anything out and about about it
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Jason Fox 6'1" 380lbs Weight Goal 300 by april 2007
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2006/12/07, 09:25 AM
READ THIS:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16081690/
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7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/12/07, 09:28 AM
Here are a few snips from the above article
Everett Hyland doesn't know how he stayed alive when almost everyone around him didn't. He was radioman aboard the Pennsylvania, which was in Dry Dock No. 1, and was helping transport ammunition to the anti-aircraft gun when a bomb exploded.
Badly burned, Hyland regained consciousness 18 days later, on Christmas night. During that time, his older brother visited.
"The only way he knew it was me was the tag on my toe," Hyland said. "He (later) told me we looked like roast turkeys lined up."
Today, scar tissue covers most of his arms and legs. "I got a quick facial out of it. I used to be a freckled-faced kid," he said. "I don't have any lips. They could fix faces, but they couldn't build any lips."
Four in five servicemen on the USS Arizona — 1,177 in all — did not survive the day. It was the greatest loss of life of any ship in U.S. naval history. They remain entombed in the battleship's sunken hull, which still seeps oil every few seconds, leaving a colorful sheen on the harbor water.
many Pearl Harbor survivors were disheartened by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, "as if they had not done their job hard enough."
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2006/12/07, 09:29 AM
REMEMBER AMERCIA, NEVER FORGET WHAT WAS GIVEN FROM OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE ARMED FORCES. NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2006/12/07, 10:19 AM
di I mention- I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!
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Jason Fox 6'1" 380lbs Weight Goal 300 by april 2007
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2006/12/07, 11:26 AM
If you were referring to me - that was nice
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Quoting from ravenbeauty:
be nice......:cool:
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Beyond Training, Beyond Experience, Nutrition Wins
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2006/12/07, 02:42 PM
PEARL HARBOR December 7, 1941
On Sunday, December 7, 1941 the Japanese launched a surprise attack
against the U.S. Forces stationed at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. By planning
his attack on a Sunday, the Japanese commander Admiral Nagumo, hoped to
catch the entire fleet in port.
As luck would have it, the Aircraft Carriers and one of the Battleships
were not in port. (The USS Enterprise was returning from Wake Island,
where it had just delivered some aircraft. The USS Lexington was
ferrying aircraft to Midway, and the USS Saratoga and USS Colorado were
undergoing repairs in the United States.)
In spite of the latest intelligence reports about the missing aircraft
carriers (his most important targets), Admiral Nagumo decided to
continue the attack with his force of six carriers and 423 aircraft. At
a range of 230 miles north of Oahu, he launched the first wave of a
two-wave attack.
Beginning at 0600 hours his first wave consisted of 183 fighters and
torpedo bombers which struck at the fleet in Pearl Harbor and the
airfields in Hickam, Kaneohe and Ewa. The second strike, launched at
0715 hours, consisted of 167 aircraft, which again struck at the same
targets. At 0753 hours the first wave consisting of 40 Nakajima B5N2
"Kate" torpedo bombers, 51 Aichi D3A1 "Val" dive bombers, 50 high
altitude bombers and 43 Zeros struck airfields and Pearl Harbor. Within
the next hour, the second wave arrived and continued the attack.
When it was over, the U.S. losses were:
Casualties:
USA: 218 KIA, 364 WIA.
USN: 2,008 KIA, 710 WIA.
USMC: 109 KIA, 69 WIA.
Civilians: 68 KIA, 35 WIA.
TOTAL: 2,403 KIA, 1,178 WIA.
Battleships:
USS Arizona (BB-39) - total loss when a bomb hit her
magazine.
USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Total loss when she capsized and
sunk in the harbor.
USS California (BB-44) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised
and repaired.
USS West Virginia (BB-48) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised
and repaired.
USS Nevada - (BB-36) Beached to prevent sinking. Later
repaired.
USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) - Light damage.
USS Maryland (BB-46) - Light damage.
USS Tennessee (BB-43) Light damage.
USS Utah (AG-16) - (former battleship used as a target) -
Sunk.
Cruisers:
USS New Orleans (CA-32) - Light Damage..
USS San Francisco (CA38) - Light Damage.
USS Detroit (CL-8) - Light Damage.
USS Raleigh (CL-7) - Heavily damaged but repaired.
USS Helena (CL-50) - Light Damage.
USS Honolulu (CL-48) - Light Damage.
Destroyers:
USS Downes (DD-375) - Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Cassin - (DD-372) Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Shaw (DD-373) - Very heavy damage.
USS Helm (DD-388) - Light Damage.
Minelayer:
USS Ogala (CM-4) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.
Seaplane Tender:
USS Curtiss (AV-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.
Repair Ship:
USS Vestal (AR-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.
Harbor Tug:
USS Sotoyomo (YT-9) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.
Aircraft:
188 Aircraft destroyed (92 USN and 92 U.S. Army Air Corps.)
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For those who would like to see a slideshow tribute, you can visit my page at:
http://www.myspace.com/bettia
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