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2002/12/30, 05:57 PM
A good friend of mine changed her diet as per Doctors advise with the help of a dietitian. She (my friend) stuck to the changes and lost 36lbs in 9 weeks and the Doctors thought this was a good amount to loose in 9 weeks. The diet consited on increasing protien while reducing fat and carb. It all seemed great then she got sick. First was her Gaulblader, than after removing that, her kidneys were the problem. She was told by several Doctors that it was a dirrect result of her diet changes as she had a hi fat diet prior to the change. In a nut shell if your organs are used to a lot of fat and you take it away the organs can not modify operating fast enough. Is any one else familiar with this type of thing. We have researched but found little. All comments welcome
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2002/12/30, 06:00 PM
My first question Sempai, why the diet change?
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Ivan Montreal Canada
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2002/12/30, 06:06 PM
Ya Thats a good question. My friend was not really heavy about 40lbs the doctors told her, she had had a back injury about 15 years ago and was starting to have problems with her back again, she was told that since she was getting close to 40 (38) she should take some weight off to reduce stress on her back.
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2002/12/30, 06:07 PM
I think that she was told to make a bad move by the first doc. Anytime you make a change that drastic ther are problems associated with it. Just like if you had never lifted before and jumped into an advanced workout. Not a good Idea. The actual diet she was on by itself is not bad, just that it sounds like one: she lost too much weight to fast, two: that the change was not slow enough, she needed to gradually ease off the high fat and into the diet. Her doc shoould be sued for malpractice if he did not tell her to do it slowly.
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2002/12/30, 06:11 PM
I gree with Mutt, she could have avoided the problems and perhaps seen by the right dr, been told or shown how to strengthen her back, and eat good. But as far as the organs being effected it should have eased up the work on them.
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The trouble with jogging is that, by the time you realize you are not in shape for it, it is too far to walk back! Franklin P. Jones
Ivan Montreal Canada
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2002/12/30, 06:16 PM
Well Mutt I agree but right now she is confused about it when she was advised to loose weight at first she checked with another doctor than the dietitian who along with both doctors monitered the progress. She felt great right up till the gaulblader went. I told her that she was loosing weight too fast even went to the dietitian with her once. She told me that for my friend it was ok her it was just speeding up her motabilism and there was nothing to worry about as long as she stuck to the diet, and the diet seemed good not much different than what I eat just a lot less but she is not a big person. about 5'6" 160lbs
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2002/12/30, 07:17 PM
Sometimes things just happen by coincidence, and the first thing anyone wants to blame is the diet, especially if they don't understand it. I know I have that here at work, any time I get any kind of an ailment, the first thing anyone says is it is probably the diet I am on. That being said, even a so called clinical dietician does not always know the right diet, they read too many of the wrong books and assume a one size fits all. The line you say h/she said, its ok, just speeding up her mettabolism is totally incorrect. One of the first things that happen when you start a diet too quickly is a 10% slowdown of metabolism, and on a high protein, low carb/fat diet for too long, your metabolism will slow to a crawl, along with decreased thyroid function. So, what is the answer? Maybe, maybe not. I may be devil's advocate here, but I think it is something you will run into if there ever came a court proceeding over this.
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2002/12/30, 07:38 PM
I agree BB but, that being said if she had no porblems before and all of a sudden is, what may have caused it. One is that nothing caused it the gallbladder was going to go anyway....or two..the diet while not totaly the culprit led to the kidneys and gallbladder beign over worked and that caused the problems. I am not sure which but I would point to the cause and effect thing. She caused the diet to drasticaly change and the problems started.....But who really knows I just do not trust Doctors that much!
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2002/12/30, 08:13 PM
I think we got away from the question.
"In a nut shell if your organs are used to a lot of fat and you take it away the organs can not modify operating fast enough. Is any one familiar with this type of thing?"
I'm pretty sure it's co-incedence. Because the organs are doing less work with the toxic substances from wrong foods.
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The trouble with jogging is that, by the time you realize you are not in shape for it, it is too far to walk back! Franklin P. Jones
Ivan Montreal Canada
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2002/12/30, 08:20 PM
I hear you mutt, maybe we should have been lawyers. I was simply trying to point out that it is probably going to come down to one word against another, and without proof, it would be totally up to a jury of our "peers" to decide. Who knows how that would go. Then again in a civil suit, there does not need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Case in point, the person that was too stupid to realize coffee was hot and set it between their legs and won millions?! I think it would be very hard to prove either way. Your closing arguments sir?? LOL.....
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2002/12/30, 09:25 PM
Thanks for the imput. I don't think this will be settled in court it is pretty hard to sue anyone. We were just looking for other opinions regarding the change in diet affecting the organs. We were both of the opinion that the lower fat and crap in the diet would be less taxing on the body.
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2002/12/30, 09:36 PM
Good luck with everything. As I stated in my first line of my first post, before we got sidetracked (sorry), it unfortunately was probably just a terrible conincidence. Hope the best for you both in health and in all aspects of your lives.
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