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wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/14, 02:18 PM Started event training this weekend. Truck pushes (in the rain, poor traction). 2 15yd lengths and 1 30 yd push. Farmers walks... Worked up to 205lbs per hand. Sandbag crucifix hold. 22lb bags, sets for time. Got to 30s with a thumbs up grip. My hands were destroyed by this point. Not much in terms of volume, but it's the first week back. We'll see how things shape up. -------------- Iron and chalk. Enter the Darkside
	2007/01/16, 02:21 PM Awesome! keep up the good work wrestler! I got a question for you? i posted a question about the ANABOLIC DIET, (or anabolic solution) in the diet forum, bb1 said the author is alike a waffle, but i never really got any help as to why or if this is a good diet, or umm.. lifestyle? just wondering what you thought of it?
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/16, 02:35 PM Di Pasquale is kind of a flake, but the diet itself is based on sound science, and the results I have heard tend to be positive. I don't believe in attacking people, but rather principles. When someone can't discredit something, they discredit someone. As far as lifestyle, I think the PRINCIPLES would make a good lifestyle. Overall, it is just another way to learn to make positive changes. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
	2007/01/16, 02:59 PM Thanks, i appreciate the help, i do have a diet by beverly international as well, but instead of more fat they say more protein medium fat and to carb, the anabolic solution says more fat, medium protein and low carb, so which do you feel would be the best to go with? would it be better to go with medium fats and higher protein or the exact opposites?
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/16, 03:15 PM Depends on your goals... I prefer a higher protein diet for most approaches though. Besides that I find it can be difficult to get enough healthy fats when on a high fat diet. Of course I am a powerlifter so I could be biased... -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
	2007/01/16, 03:20 PM well i could send you the ebook for powerlifters so you could take a gander at it if you want it? there is one for bb's and one for pl's? i got them both! I was reading in another thread that it is hard to come back to a normal diet once you have been on the high fats/med pro/lw carb, they say that you have to slowly move back to normal or you could face gaining a ton of fat! let me know if you want a copy?
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/16, 03:34 PM A powerlifters diet needs to naturally be higher in protein, at least for one competing in a set weight class. Any low carb diet needs to be tapered. I'd probably look through it, but I'm also in the middle of "the unnatural athlete" and "functional training for sports" so I couldn't read it and immediately give you my feedback. I am familiar with the diet and it's principles, and know those who have used it with success. Try it out, if it works then great. If not then you just found out one thing your body does not respond to. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
	2007/01/16, 03:39 PM well, i will just give it a go and let everyone know how it is going? I don't want to bother you if your into a few other books at the moment, i may go with the higher protein just so i do not have to worry about the bad fats as much as if i was on a higher fat diet? thanks i appreciate your help and good luck with the event training and school!
Pemdas Posts: 973 Joined: 2004/07/22	2007/01/17, 09:38 AM Steve, where do you get chalk around here...or do you order it on line.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2007/01/17, 09:46 AM Dicks sporting goods has it I think -------------- Curl Jockeys, get outta the squat rack! Warning:Deadlifting going on! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
Pemdas Posts: 973 Joined: 2004/07/22	2007/01/17, 11:29 AM Sweet, thanks.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/17, 06:19 PM EMS has it as well. Right in the mall. Didn't we talk about this already? -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
Pemdas Posts: 973 Joined: 2004/07/22	2007/01/17, 06:29 PM Maybe, but at the time, I wasn't really considering using it, so it probably went in one ear and out the other
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/20, 05:42 PM Started with thick bar clean and press. Did cleans, full cleans, continental cleans, just to see what worked. Also did military presses, push press, power and split jerks. Clean and Press: 115*5, 135*5, 165*1 Thick Bar DL (double overhand) 185*3 (mixed grip) 205*8 Farmers carry and turn (per hand) 135, 185*2 Sandbag Crucifix hold 22lbs 1*40s, 1*20s, 1*30s -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/27, 05:02 PM Truck push 2 110 yd pushes. This destroyed me. Thick bar dl from 3" platform: 200lbs, double pronated, 4*5 alternating grip 310 1*5 Split jerk: worked up to a triple at 135. This is the threshhold of when it starts to hurt my wrist. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2007/01/28, 05:38 PM And your insinuation here is??? ============ Quoting from wrestler125: Di Pasquale is kind of a flake, but the diet itself is based on sound science, and the results I have heard tend to be positive. I don't believe in attacking people, but rather principles. When someone can't discredit something, they discredit someone. As far as lifestyle, I think the PRINCIPLES would make a good lifestyle. Overall, it is just another way to learn to make positive changes. ============= -------------- "If it ain't broke, you aren't trying."
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2007/01/28, 05:46 PM Don't think I have basis to knock the guy? Sound science? I need only make one quote from his book directly from the horses mouth... "These days, there seems to be alot of emphasis on ketosis, but its all pretty useless. Staying in a ketogenic state basically means you haven't adapted to the diet. If ketones are being excreted in the urine(which is how you determine ketosis) by using "keto-sticks," then you're not utilizing ketones for energy very efficiently. Someone who is optimally using fat for fuel should not have ketones in their urine." Ok, see anything wrong here with your super intellect? This is a guy who doesn't have a grasp on his on diet! -------------- "If it ain't broke, you aren't trying."
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/28, 05:56 PM Like I said, he is flaky, but the DIET is sound. Regardless of how he chooses to back it up. There is actually a large gray area, at least in the medical field, where ketosis is concerned. And besides that, what you just quoted makes sense to me. As far as we are taught, what he is saying isnt that far off. And I never mentioned you Ron, so if you are taking offense to something I said, that should tell you something. Seeing as this is my events training log, if you dont have anything productive to say in the way of competition training for powerlifting or strongman, then start another thread. The diet forum would be a good place. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2007/01/28, 06:26 PM Well, you make a post in any thread and I will respond to it. Your post was in direct response to the one above it, which indeed did involve me. So, it makes sense to you? Hhhmmmm....keto sticks are first off a poor way to tell ketosis at best, and you are going to say that if one were eefficiently using ketones for energy and lipolysis on a carb depeleted diet it shouldn't produce a state of ketosis? :) ============ Quoting from wrestler125: And besides that, what you just quoted makes sense to me. As far as we are taught, what he is saying isnt that far off. And I never mentioned you Ron, so if you are taking offense to something I said, that should tell you something. Seeing as this is my events training log, if you dont have anything productive to say in the way of competition training for powerlifting or strongman, then start another thread. The diet forum would be a good place. ============= -------------- "If it ain't broke, you aren't trying."
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/28, 06:31 PM I made a post in this thread because it is my thread. You gave your opinion in another thread, and j2048b came to this thread to ask ME a question. If he wanted more advice from you, he would have continued to post in that thread. Diet forum big guy. You can start the thread by quoting me saying that keto sticks are biomedical standard, and saying that using ketones for energy MIGHT NOT produce a state of ketosis unless under severly carb depleted situations. I'll be sure to check it regularly. The diet forum is my favorite forum. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2007/01/28, 06:50 PM And another exerpt from his book....In Phase shift diets...back to the future book I believe it is.... "Post Exercise Carbs are Counter Productive". Do we really need to read anymore? Hell, his whole book is based on rat research. None of the studies he uses as do many folks supply adequate protein anyway. Basing research around this is....well, do I need to complete this? -------------- "If it ain't broke, you aren't trying."
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/29, 03:44 PM Like I said, if I'm ever after your advice, I will start a post with your name on it. I'll even put it in the appropriate forum. Until then... -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/29, 03:51 PM Well I'm on crutches. Class 2 sprain, not to serious... So here's the plan... I'm taking off today because hobbling into the gym just doesn't seem like a good idea. Wednesday is lower body day... I'll be wearing a brace. I'll see how it feels doing light SLDLs, and maybe even use the thick bar here since I won't be using a lot of weight. Leg curls, high rep hypers (2 sets of 90s), and whatever else I can think of that doesn't hurt. Friday is max effort horizontal press. I was planning on doing 3 board press, but I won't be able to stabilize the load, so I'll probably do floor press with legs flat. I'll then superset vertical pressing (seated wheelchair overhead press) and horizontal pulling (something chest supported, since I won't be able to support myself). We'll have to see how I feel come Saturday for event training day (Saturday). I'm kidding about the wheelchair presses. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
Ravenbeauty Posts: 3,755 Joined: 2002/09/24	2007/01/29, 04:19 PM Hope you feel better soon. -------------- Bettia To be motivated, motivate others!
Pemdas Posts: 973 Joined: 2004/07/22	2007/01/30, 03:38 PM The kid that was working downstairs yesterday said that we are getting some new equipment today...what is it? I hope it is a curl rack:)
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/01/30, 05:30 PM Yup... It's a new curl rack, and a curl bar that doesn't have knurling in the midde so you don't scrape your stomach when you curl. I just got back from helping to set up... It's so beautiful. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
Pemdas Posts: 973 Joined: 2004/07/22	2007/01/30, 06:06 PM NICE! now we need a GHR station. -------------- Light bulb shaped people are easy to push over!
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/02/03, 04:11 PM Started with overhead press for time. 1 minute. OH hasn't hurt for a while, but I just HAD to go and bench press on friday and screw my shoulder a little more... 110- 16 reps 160- 6 reps 200- couldn't get it, 0+1 Farmers walks 185 per hand 2 lengths 205 per hand 1 length Left side hurt so called it a day... -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
coolnatedawg Posts: 813 Joined: 2005/03/09	2007/02/04, 12:56 AM hey wrestler, how far down are you bringin the bar when OH? Do you bring it down and touch the top of your chest or just below chin?
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/02/04, 04:51 PM Since the bar has to be pressed after it is cleaned, it has to be brought down to the chest, held, wait for a command, and then press. If I was bringing it to my chin, I would have indicated that it was a partial movement. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
coolnatedawg Posts: 813 Joined: 2005/03/09	2007/02/04, 05:33 PM well that makes sense... looks like its time to try and bring that up...
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/02/04, 07:13 PM Don't compare your numbers to mine. A few of those were militaries, but I switched to a split jerk as I fatigued. So none of them were strict reps other than the fact that they were held at lockout and at the chest. In strongman, judging is lax. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
coolnatedawg Posts: 813 Joined: 2005/03/09	2007/02/04, 11:28 PM true, but i still struggle to get over a 155 strict military. i would really like to bring that up a lot as i think it would be helpful to my bench. also, i know that my shoulders lack development and i want to widen them so i figure that would be a good improvement. it will be a good change of pace for me, i will focus on a OH and vertical pull increase... should be nice and hopefully bring some new gains when i go for a max on bench again in a few...
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/02/17, 03:42 PM Nothing exciting today... Did a couple farmers walks at 185 per hand for speed. Played with the thick bar for a bit. 120lbs... cleans, full cleans, split jerks, military presses, overhead squats. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/02/22, 09:01 PM no event training this weekend. Taking this week and next week off (I'll be at the arnold classic/westside barbell). I'll be back in full in a few weeks. Till then... -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/03/24, 04:26 PM It's been a few weeks, and it shows... Started with thick bar training... Worked up to a couple of sets of 5 at 160lbs for clean and press, shoulder was hurting pretty bad so I switched to deadlifts, managed 240 * 6 double overhand. 2.25" diameter Farmers walks: managed 225 per hand for my final set. This was painful. My hands are bleeding as I type this. Sandbag crucifix hold against rail, 22lbs, 2 sets of 30 seconds. Didn't hurt my shoulder as bad. -------------- Gravity hates you. Enter the Darkside.
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/04/01, 01:59 PM Bench technique work and thick bar work... Couldn't do any pressing because I've developed a wicked pain in my left tricep. Hopefully it will just subside by Monday. -------------- Mortal by birth. Strongman by the grace of god. Blood Guts Sweat Chalk
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2007/04/09, 10:56 AM More technique work for usapl meet. Nothing exciting... After the meet I plan on hitting the kegs and tires real hard. -------------- Mortal by birth. Strongman by the grace of god. Blood Guts Sweat Chalk