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Fat vs carbs

mrmagical Posts: 302 Joined: 2002/12/12	2003/02/22, 07:51 PM I know i should try to take in the highest % of protein but the question is which is next carbs or fats i am lean and want to just gain muscle ..I believe this statement is saying carbs are not so im portant here it is Remember there are essential fatty acids and amino acids but there are no essential carbohydrates.Your body can manufacture the carbohydrates it needs but not the fats and proteins it needs on a daily basis.The required fats and amino acids must be ingested in either whole foods or specific supplements. So would a good % for a lean person trying to gain mass be from calories--- 40% protein 35 % fats and 25 % carbs??? Thanks for any info!!!!
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2003/02/22, 08:51 PM Yes, even a 50/20/30 P/C/F ratio is very good, even ideal for gaining lean mass and losing fat. Your fat sources of course should be healthy ones, flax oil, fish oils, olive oil, etc. Split it up throughout the day. A tbsp.of normal flax oil for example is 10 gr. fat and 90 calories. Fat has 9 calories per gram. So, if you cook in olive oil, or even eat tuna in olive oil, have a tbsp. of flax 2 times per day, and a couple tbsp. of peanut butter, even a can of salmon (6oz.), and you should be getting in the ballpark. I am assuming you have the carbs and protein thing down. -------------- Failing to plan is like planning to fail!
mrmagical Posts: 302 Joined: 2002/12/12	2003/02/22, 10:09 PM what about these flax oil pills i just bought ,They are 1000 MG 10 calories apiece 10 calories for fat total fat 1 G. 1 to 2 servings a day..Should i be looking into getting ,The liquid form? Also is that all the fat i should be recieving through out the day on the last post bb or is that in addition to my 30% fat ratio?
mrmagical Posts: 302 Joined: 2002/12/12	2003/02/22, 10:11 PM Hmm or what im trying to say are those oils all the fat i should eat and to stay away from anything with fat in it?
Shaolin_911 Posts: 92 Joined: 2003/01/20	2003/02/23, 02:38 AM U should definately forget about the caps, and go for the liquid form. you can get the fat from ur supplements, but u can also get it from many foods like Nuts(walnuts, almonds, cashews etc...) olive oil, organic eggs, salmon and most fish. Doesnt need to be from just the supplements.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2003/02/23, 11:52 AM The flax oil caps are just fine, but as I have said before, I prefer the liquid for a couple reasons. One is simply that it is so much easier to just take a tbsp. and be done, where it takes 10 capsules to equal the same. And two, the capsules are not as cost efficient. To me, these sway me towards the liquid. The choice of course is yours. Taste is a consideration, they usually don't taste real good. Udo's makes an orange flavored that is actually not bad. Another option is to use the oil with your favorite salad dressing, or mix it in your protein shakes. And as of course Shaolin says, by all means do not make all fats from supps. As earlier posted, salmon and nuts are great sources, with salmon probably tops. -------------- Failing to plan is like planning to fail!
mrmagical Posts: 302 Joined: 2002/12/12	2003/02/23, 08:04 PM When we talk about the 50/20/30 P/C/F, Is this per say 50 calories coming from protein or is it grams coming from protein?????Because 1 protein gram equals 4 calories??? Im somewhat confused plz help ...
Carivan Posts: 8,542 Joined: 2002/01/20	2003/02/23, 08:28 PM I would think bb1fit is talking about percentages here. -------------- Nothing is too small to know, and nothing is too big to attempt! Ivan Montreal Canada
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2003/02/23, 10:38 PM Yes, carivan is right. All in percentages daily intake. -------------- Failing to plan is like planning to fail!
mackfactor Posts: 766 Joined: 2002/10/17	2003/02/24, 12:57 PM There's a lot of conflicting information about the role carbs play in a diet. Personally, I favor a higher carb intake for mass gain, particularly in younger individuals with faster metabolism. I usually bulk with a 40-30-30 C-P-F or 30-40-30 C-P-F. For me, 20% of calories on my bulking diet is only 150, which just doesn't give me enough juice for workouts. I like to get close to 300 when bulking. The original statement that you're referring to doesn't necessarily indicate that carbs are unimportant, but that you need not seek out certain types of carbs. I, personally, was not aware that there was a such thing as 'essential carbs' as that statement implies. -------------- "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!" -- Bob Dylan
mrmagical Posts: 302 Joined: 2002/12/12	2003/02/24, 01:11 PM it says no essential carbs.
mackfactor Posts: 766 Joined: 2002/10/17	2003/02/24, 01:16 PM Oops, I misread. -------------- "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters!" -- Bob Dylan