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2003/02/03, 04:12 PM
At La Fitness you are not allowed to bring in your own personal fitness trainer and have to use theirs. I did not know this when I joined. After two personal fitness training sessions I am still not sure how to use some of the machines. Do any of you have a Personal Fitness trainer at your gym!
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2003/02/03, 05:35 PM
Yeah but to tell you the truth i would look at others a the gym see which ones are their the most and ask them. The really hardcore "gymrats" usualy know more than the so-called "trainers" (no offense to those here lol).
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2003/02/03, 09:10 PM
There should always be a floor person available to spot, or ask a question.
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Nothing is too small to know, and nothing is too big to attempt!
Ivan Montreal Canada
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2003/02/03, 09:13 PM
The LA Fitness I go to there is never a floor person available to spot or ask any questions. There is usually the person at the front desk and during the day there are trainers going around with their clients but no floor person. In the evening there usually is just the front person.
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2003/02/04, 12:20 PM
I have to agree, every gym I've ever been a member of has employed 19 year old swanners who completed their two week course and got a job in the gym to perv at the ladies. At my gym I have been told that I am not allowed to drop the weights from any height - I say "spot me then" - they say, "We don't have the staff", so I continue to drop the weights ;-)
They also don't allow me to use the punch bag in the empty studio because of the danger that I may hurt myself.
I think I either resent authority, or authority is dumb..
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2003/02/04, 05:01 PM
I would definately seek out another gym if you live in a large enough town.
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Nothing is too small to know, and nothing is too big to attempt!
Ivan Montreal Canada
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2003/02/05, 01:44 AM
Today at La Fitness I asked someone to help me learn some good ab workouts. I was approaced by the Manager of "Body Works" and he was great. La Fitness has an independant Personal Fitness who train in their facilities. I received one free Personal Fitness training session when I joined and was not satisfied. I called and was given a free second session. I do speak up and am not afraid to say what I think and believe that is why they have treated me well. Today I learned some very good ab workouts from the Manager of "BodyofChange" (the Personal Fitness Trainers LA Fitness uses here in California and was very happy with the trainer. I want more sessions but am not ready to spend the large amount of money they want. I guess I have been lucky to get the sessions I have had. I get along very well with the staff and believe personality has a lot to do with it. I am still trying to figure out what my fitness program will be. I am still a "baby" in the gym but soon will be a "grown up" fitness guru.
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Karjean
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2003/02/05, 01:47 AM
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Quoting from karjean:
Today at La Fitness I asked someone to help me learn some good ab workouts. I was approaced by the Manager their independant Personal Fitness company who train in their facilities. I received one free Personal Fitness training session when I joined and was not satisfied. I called and was given a free second session. I do speak up and am not afraid to say what I think and believe that is why they have treated me well. Today I learned some very good ab workouts from the Manager of "BodyofChange" (the Personal Fitness Trainers LA Fitness uses here in California and was very happy with the trainer. I want more sessions but am not ready to spend the large amount of money they want. I guess I have been lucky to get the sessions I have had. I get along very well with the staff and believe personality has a lot to do with it. I am still trying to figure out what my fitness program will be. I am still a "baby" in the gym but soon will be a "grown up" fitness guru.
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2003/02/05, 01:48 AM
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The name of their Personal Fitness Company is "BodyofChange"
and that is why I am there....to change my body for the better.
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2003/02/05, 10:19 PM
So sorry about the repeated posts. I did not think the first one went through. OPPS.............
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2003/02/06, 12:39 AM
Advisory: RANT!
I go to LA Fitness as well; I love the facility by not the trainers. Like you, I had (all get 2 free sessions with membership) my free session, loved it, and wanted to setup a program with them. They tried pressuring me to sign for a year and we finally agreed to once a week for 3 months with 6 free sessions added and at the same rate they offered me the one-year contract (I felt like I was buying a car). At sign up I told them that I wanted the trainer to give me a program I could follow with instructions and a plan. Of course, they agreed when I signed but the trainer I was assigned never did supply me with anything usable, he always promised but never delivered. I even went as far as to ask him to show me, on my dime, while I took notes and he tried telling me that he was not supposed to this.
Today after 3 weeks, more determined then ever to do what I need to learn and improve, I went to see them and asked for a different trainer. I showed them the program from FT and said, "The trainer you assign will need to follow this program, he/she will give me advice on how to best do it and answer questions I may have. When they tried saying that it was not a usual request, I stopped them and asked, "Who is the customer? Who pays you?" Of course, the answer was "you." I start by meeting the new trainer tomorrow and will ensure that it is clear from the beginning what it is I need.
Morale of a VERY long story is “You are the customer, be firm, hold your ground and you can make it happen!”
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2003/02/06, 07:55 PM
The problem with most large chain facilities is that they do not employ trainers to help the members - they employ trainers to milk as much money out of the members as possible. I was a trainer at a large chain for a year and got in trouble for "giving away my information" when i wrote programs for people. On the other hand, a program is a very complex thing because it has to change every few weeks so that you don't adapt and if you are realy serious there are cycles to consider (strength, endurance, mass, etcetera). So, usually it is the facility that doesn't want the trainer to write things down - it reduces your dependence on the trainer. I do know that in most cases the people i wrote really good, detailed programs for followed the program for a few days and then fell off the program. most people need a good workout partner or a good trainer to really follow a decent program. Don't take offense at this - it is just what my experience has been. I do think that the programs here on freetrainers are good, but if you are a beginner you may want some hands on instruction on form. this doesn't have to be a trainer, but please don't ask the old kinda big but kinda fat guy who is always doing bad-form deadlifts with too much weight and then rubbing his back. (He always wears his belt,too). i have seen/overheard way too many females (and some guys) receive really bad advice from some guy at the gym that they think knows what he is doing. i actually had to stop during a training session and intervene when i overheard the King of Bad Form tell a woman that the pec dec is supposed to make your shoulder joints sore - that means you are working. Yeah, okay Bambi, come and see me when you need rehab for you messed up rotator cuffs and or torn upper pec.
Okay, enough ranting - find someone who doesn't jerk the weights around and has a decent physiqqque - probably your best bet for showing you around. Otherwise there are some very good books out there that show decent form and give good exercise examples - as well as the routines on this site. Good Luck!
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2003/02/07, 05:54 PM
I agree with what you are saying, and I am aware ofthe risks of bad form, this is why I signed up with them and will continue using a trainer until my personal knowledge has reached a proper level. BTW can you recommend any books?
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2003/02/07, 09:42 PM
I agree that you need to have a good Personal Fitness Trainer when first starting a gym. I have found my training sessions to be very useful. I have been lucky because the trainers have helped me learn many new workouts.
I have had 4 sessions and find that they have been very beneficial to me. I hope to work out a deal with the Personal Fitness Trainer to get more sessions. I feel so good after working out. I need to work on my diet also.
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2003/02/09, 12:44 PM
Bill Pearl's 'Getting Stronger' is full of a lot of information - some of the form is questionable, but most is good.
It is good to find a basic book like that, it also explains proper progression and delves into nutrition and different programs for different goals.
Browse the sports/fitness section at your local bookstore and look for 'Bodybuilding 101'. It is full of info, pretty good.
I also think that there are some good mags out there that show realistic workouts with good form - some are Energy for Women and Muscle Media (no, I don't work for EAS).
Good luck!
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2004/08/21, 07:56 AM
I work out at Fitworks and the people there are very nice. They have trainers and the regular staff is there willing to help you out in a minute.
They make sure you know the machines, go over what your goals are and there for you if you need them. They take you through the routine several times as you need but after about 3 days you pretty much know what you gotta do anyway. But just in case they are there and are very helpful.
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2009/02/23, 10:54 AM
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Quoting from asimmer:
The problem with most large chain facilities is that they do not employ trainers to help the members - they employ trainers to milk as much money out of the members as possible. I was a trainer at a large chain for a year and got in trouble for "giving away my information" when i wrote programs for people. On the other hand, a program is a very complex thing because it has to change every few weeks so that you don't adapt and if you are realy serious there are cycles to consider (strength, endurance, mass, etcetera). So, usually it is the facility that doesn't want the trainer to write things down - it reduces your dependence on the trainer. I do know that in most cases the people i wrote really good, detailed programs for followed the program for a few days and then fell off the program. most people need a good workout partner or a good trainer to really follow a decent program. Don't take offense at this - it is just what my experience has been. I do think that the programs here on freetrainers are good, but if you are a beginner you may want some hands on instruction on form. this doesn't have to be a trainer, but please don't ask the old kinda big but kinda fat guy who is always doing bad-form deadlifts with too much weight and then rubbing his back. (He always wears his belt,too). i have seen/overheard way too many females (and some guys) receive really bad advice from some guy at the gym that they think knows what he is doing. i actually had to stop during a training session and intervene when i overheard the King of Bad Form tell a woman that the pec dec is supposed to make your shoulder joints sore - that means you are working. Yeah, okay Bambi, come and see me when you need rehab for you messed up rotator cuffs and or torn upper pec.
Okay, enough ranting - find someone who doesn't jerk the weights around and has a decent physiqqque - probably your best bet for showing you around. Otherwise there are some very good books out there that show decent form and give good exercise examples - as well as the routines on this site. Good Luck!
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God bless you Amy! I'm not sure a truer phrase has been spoken! My gym(I won't say the name but it sounds like STARFIT) does the exact same thing. The trainers there might have good intentions, but the company stops them from doing their REAL job: Educating their clients on all sides of fitness, and working themselves out of a job. I'm guessing that once the gym takes their piece of the clients money, the trainers aren't too motivated. What a shame!
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