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kakaroto Posts: 893 Joined: 2002/05/09	2005/05/16, 11:42 PM what could be a good muscle building supplement, not strenght, mass, instead of the old fashion yet effective protein, creatine,glutamine? you see, i´ve workedout for over 3 tears now i am almost turning 19. i think it is about time that i take something strong. dont get me wrong, i am not planning on taking hormones and stuff, but would like something that has really worked for you? as an example, for my age, DHEA ANIMAL STACK ANDROSTENEDIONE are the kind of supps i cant take. right? so, any idea? thanks
SkinnyM6886 Posts: 143 Joined: 2004/10/25	2005/05/17, 01:07 AM A Cell Volumizer might give you some good results...but thats basically a mix of creatine, glutamine, arginine, and citrullin. That's X-Factor my come in handy, supplement BB1 is logging right now. There are probably more i just can't think of any at the moment. Hope that helps.
kakaroto Posts: 893 Joined: 2002/05/09	2005/05/17, 05:13 PM how about HMB? and whats the deal with the M-STACK? as far as i know it only "mimics" the effects of anabolic pharmaceuticals by enhancing protein synthesis, nitrogen retention (positive nitrogen balance), and nutrition-partitioning (diverting more nutrients to lean mass over bodyfat), while simulatneously reducing muscle catabolism (wasting). why isnt it safe for me?
SkinnyM6886 Posts: 143 Joined: 2004/10/25	2005/05/18, 01:47 AM I've never used HMB i can't afford it but i hear it stacks good with creatine and arginine. The M-Stack contains ingredients that will boost your natural production of Testosterone, such as ZMA, and Tribulus, it also contains anti-estrogen properties which will increase you testosterone-to-estrogen ratio. I thought you wanted to stay away from all Test products, maybe i missunderstood and you only ment PH and artificial test products. But if increasing your testosterone production naturally is fine with you then there are plenty to choose from.
kakaroto Posts: 893 Joined: 2002/05/09	2005/05/18, 09:36 AM NO NO NO, NO TEST PRODUCTS, i just posted those in order to understand what they really are so i know what i am going to take. but i am planning stay natural...
SkinnyM6886 Posts: 143 Joined: 2004/10/25	2005/05/18, 03:10 PM i thought ZMA was considered natural, BB1 uses it and he is considered a natural bodybuilder. But anyway here are some more possibilities, amino acids,methoxy and ecdysterone, are non hormonal and supposably increaes protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, and muscle growth. How effective they are i don't really know you might pick a product then go to bulknutrition.com and look for reviews on it. There are also liver tablets and such with are also nutrient rich. I hope one of these works for you or a stack will because im running out of ideas.:)
kakaroto Posts: 893 Joined: 2002/05/09	2005/05/18, 03:22 PM thanks for the advice, and yes i was naking some research by myself i found methioxy and ecdysterone as possible supps. i was thinking: Optimum Tribulus 625, 100 Capsules SciFit Extra Strength HMB, 60caps, 750mg SciFit EcdySterone 300, 300mg/60 Capsules
SkinnyM6886 Posts: 143 Joined: 2004/10/25	2005/05/19, 01:19 AM Tribulus terrestris is a testosterone enhancer, it leads to the production of the luteinizing hormone (LH). When LH levels are increased, the natural production of testosterone also increases.