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2001/05/10, 07:31 PM
Has any one tried the Anabolic Burst Cycle....i'm starting it on monday...
i was wondering if anyone had any sucess with it....
i have a few friends that started it but could not keep up with the large amounts of food in the first two weeks....I'm not too sure if i will be able too either though, but hell...i know i can do anything if i want to though....and damn i need some more muscle so i gotta try something new. I figured it out, i should be eating about 3800 cals a day, which is extreamly high for me...drop a line if you tried it
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2001/05/10, 08:33 PM
That sounds like a truckload of food dude. I weigh 155 and am not a big eater by nature. I have a high metabolism too so it doesn't help in gaining. What about your weight and eating habits? Anabolic burst cycle??? Is that a supplement or just an eating program??? SOunds like I should do it too. Stay focused. HOG
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2001/05/11, 12:34 AM
it is a eating/training program. thats it. pretty much all it involes is a lot of food and heavey training for two weeks, then a cutting faze for two weeks....then repeat.
I'm 5'11'' about 185 with about 9% bf right now
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2001/05/11, 02:34 AM
whats anabolic burst cycle...never heard of it before.
I will love to know.
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2001/05/11, 09:15 AM
http://www.musclemedia.com/training/abcde/v58_abc1.asp
read this...it is is four parts i think. It seems to make some real sense. also seems kinda tough
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2003/04/24, 12:55 AM
If you want to ask people that have gone through the ABCDE program, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/body_for_life_blitzkrieg
or
http://groups.msn.com/BodyforLifeBlitzkrieg
There are planty of people in these groups, that are willing to help.
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2003/04/27, 07:31 PM
Y'all oughta check out that article above--very convincing. Seems to make perfect sense--mimic the gourge and cut eating habits of our ancestors, cycle workouts, and double your testosterine/anabolic chemistry levels to above the roid levels of those used in the Arnold era. I'm starting it and will keep the board informed. Will also be posting pics to http://groups.msn.com/BodyforLifeBlitzkrieg
If you go to that group, talk to "Doc" who says he was on it for two years (still on it) and gained 50 lean lbs. of muscle with current 8% bodyfat. If that ain't lean, where's he storing the extra 50? in his socks?
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2003/04/29, 07:00 PM
Iv read about it too in that link and it sounds intresting, but would anyone like to put it into lamens terms for me so I understand better. lol. I dont fully understand, do you just pig out on carbs for two weeks and train hard then cut them out ???
Ill probably end up going to one of the links but im idel so I will just ask in here. lol
thanks for any response though
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2003/04/29, 07:38 PM
Ahhh...Bill Phillips and EAS, imagine that! You know, I have been a bog advocate of gaining/hardening cycles for quite a while. Some of you may have seen my posts in regards to questions about gaining. But from experience, after each gaining cycle, and these cycles are not all out like the ones implied in this program, they are controlled with top nutrition and supplements, each hardening cycle becomes longer to drop off unwanted fat. With a drastic calorie increase like is advocated, I can guarantee you a large amount of fat gain right off the bat, with a smaller muscle gain. Many years of research will back this up. Any time you start a gaining phase, maybe start with a 500 calorie increase to avoid this initial fat storage, and then increase accordingly if you are gaining slower or faster than wanted. And with teh foods listed, how about insulin rises? I know he mentions using an EAS product that has Chromium in it, but that amount of chromium will regulate insulin in that matter? I think you should think again. I wish all of you luck who are going to do this. I bet I can count the number of you who end up at 8% bf when you are done!! LOL....
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The one goal you will NEVER achieve is the one you never attempt.
Ron
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2003/04/30, 11:50 AM
Yeah, but isn't the point to shock the system into 1) loading the muscles with protein and gycogen storage and 2) dramatically increase hormone levels? I doubt a mere 500 cal increase or decrease would acheive this. Besides, that's what the trimming 2 weeks is for--again, shocking the body to undergo a change in metabolism and hormone rates.
The idea is to mimic the evolutionary-created process of finding a kill, gorging on it, then having to wade through a semi-famine until the next kill. The body, according to the research, is supposed to have a remarkable adapation ability that involves storage as lean gains and dramatic increases in testosterone. Two weeks of each is supposed to be ideal in making recreating the scenario. Am trying it myself--4000 calories a day. Am about a week into it. Have gained a few pounds, but not around the waist.
The idea is that into the initial shock of so much food, the body will store it in the muscles as it takes a couple of weeks for the body to begin storing it as fat. But then you switch to the trimming phase before that can happen to any significant degree.
About a week into the gorging phase, I've already seen some dramatically increased pumps. Will report as things progress. Not afraid of a few lbs of fat as I know with my intensity and understanding of diet I can burn it quick if it does happen. Hell, I'll try anything for a few months, so long as there's science behind it. Anything short of taking 'roids, that is.
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. . . to crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women . . .
I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important — like a league game or something.
-- Dick Butkus
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2003/04/30, 01:03 PM
Theory is nice, real life facts are a bit different. Good luck to you, I am in no way trying to sway you. Experience is a good teacher. Best of luck.
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The one goal you will NEVER achieve is the one you never attempt.
Ron
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2003/05/01, 07:02 AM
Hey man, I value any skepticism--particularly in this sport where there are so many quacks, and particularly coming from a veteran such as yourself. I'm keeping an open mind to it. Thanks for the input.
Edwin
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2003/05/11, 03:40 PM
In case anyone is interested in trying this. I've made some modifications for myself. I gain and lose weight really fast for some reason, and the 4000 cals a day for 14 days made me gain huge, so I cut back to 3500 mas o menos during bulking. I've also decided to only do the cutting cycle for a week at a time. It only exists really to make sure u don't get too much fat from the bulking. But I can't imagine going down to 2000 cals a day for two weeks since I can't imagine decreasing my intensity, so I'm cutting the cutting phase to 1 week. Two weeks bulk, one week cut. I'm at the beginning of my cutting week and am already getting fatigued and losing weight. One week will do for now. Don't want to lose mass.
Will post as things progress.
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