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2006/07/26, 01:28 PM
For those of you that could possibly have forgotten Andrea Yates is the woman that drowned her own 5 children in the family home after her husband left for work.She was previously found guilty,today that verdict was overturned in the state of Texas and she was instead found not guilty by reason of insanity.I understand the throws of depression post pardem depression can throw you into,but to wait for your spouse to leave for work and then methodically drown your own 5 children,the oldest being 6 I believe,that is evil.I honestly am not sure what I am supposed to feel about this.Mental illness is very real and very tragic,but my heart is broken when I think of the terror these babies must have felt as their own mother held there little heads under the water as they fought for their lives.
I suppose all I can do is pray for these 5 little souls,and for the souls of all the children who have so unfairly lost their lives to brutality.
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2006/07/26, 01:36 PM
She had some actions that showed that she had planned the killings... in my mind, she is guilty
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2006/07/26, 01:46 PM
AS a dad I can NOT even read about this as it makes me break down and cry. I think insane or not that it took premedated thought and planning. I think she should not even have been given a trial but shot in the head right then and there when the police arrested her 5 years ago.
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2006/07/26, 02:03 PM
...Or drowned in a tub
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2006/07/26, 04:00 PM
by her mother next to the lifeless body of her baby sister...
Even at that though it wouldn't be the same...this is the problem with the death penalty.She will know it is coming and what to prepare for...not nearly as horrific for her as it was for her children.But an eye for an eye is an intersting notion.For my own sanity I must keep faith and believe all things do happen for a reason...even if it is beyond my understanding.
...that isn't such an easy thing to do on days like today however.
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2006/07/26, 04:20 PM
They should at least force her to tie your tubes (perferably around her neck)
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2006/07/27, 11:04 PM
Here in Canada she would of probably been released. Seems thier is no justice anymore.
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Scales are for dead weight: We are not dead yet!
Still trying to find out how to do the Hollywood Free Press.
Ivan
Montreal Canada
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2006/07/29, 01:27 AM
temporary insanity potentially...
She should be institutionalized for life...
The eye for an eye is a very archaic idea...and I would think as a civilized society we have moved beyond that...
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2006/07/29, 02:43 PM
You may like to think that way...when you have children of your own you may feel differently.If it were my own children....
in ANY situation that involved a heinous crime...
an eye for an eye would be anything but archaic...
it wouldn't even be justice.
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2006/07/29, 09:19 PM
Amen KC
It would not be an eye for eye anyway.....because her own mother would not be the one to kill her
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2006/07/29, 10:16 PM
Let me just say this menace, that if anyone EVER hurt my two boys they would die and it would take a very very long time.
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
7707mutt@freetrainers.com
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2006/08/10, 12:14 AM
I think they should bring back the gladitator fights. And use people on death row, rapists, terrorists etc.. Sell tickets...maybe make it pay per view. Might as well make some money off it instead of wasting tax dollars them setting in a cell...or walking the streets.
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Get your bicep curling, cut off shirt, matching workout outfit wearing,flexing in mirror "toned" wanna-be ass , out of my squat rack!
People don't reach thier true potental, only those who seek it.
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2006/08/16, 09:16 AM
I think that the instant death idea would create a big impression on those who may have considered commiting heinous crimes, but the mentally ill do not consider the punishment they may receive, they are listening to voices no one else can hear and have no concept of right or wrong.
If I am not mistaken, yates was in the throes of some kind of religious apocalyptic vision or something. Anyhow, she will never serve any purpose in society as a contributor, death would be the kindest and financially least painful thing to do with her.
The problems with instant death sentence or publicized death matchesare numerous - what about thosoe people who are wrongly accused or set up? And what happens when there are no more major criminals to kill for the public's viewing pleasure? Do we start using petty criminals? Do we encat stronger penalties for lesser crimes? You need to watch running man, or escape from NY or escape from LA and think about where such a punishment-dominant culture could lead and think about who might start deicidng what is right and wrong....
Our system is too soft, yes and changes need to be made, but the gears turn so slowly and the human rights people have such a loud and popular voice...
Where does it leave us?
Protect your children, teach them right from wrong, watch your frineds, family and sopouses for signs of mental illness, do right when you see it is needed. Maintain hope that the good wil win out in the end.
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You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
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2006/08/16, 12:13 PM
As for your point of the instant death sentence being used on someone wrongly accused or setup - the instant death should be used on ones where doubt is not an issue. There was not any doubt with Yates - or Dahlmer - Manson etc
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2006/08/16, 12:54 PM
I say bring back public stonings, charge 5 bucks a rock, with all the turds in this world, we could end world hunger, homelessness, pay off the deficit, and all be living tax free in about a week !!!
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For as a man thinketh in his heart, so he is.
Proverbs 23:7
Bill
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2006/08/17, 08:10 AM
As much as I like eye for an eye concept....I still hope as a civilized society we will not let our emotion cloud our rational judgement.
Instead of wasting money on lethal injections....which end up costing more than incarcerating criminals for life.....we could take that money and invest it in our schools,neighorhoods, create prevention programs...etc...A lot of crimes are cries of desperation. ...hell lets invest the money fight homelessness and poverty....anything...
Funny I thought religions preached peace and loving the fellow man.... Not calling for public stonings.
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2006/08/17, 09:20 AM
I am in no way a preacher menace, but have faith in alot of what is written.
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."
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\"Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great.\"
~ Mark Twain
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2006/08/17, 10:22 AM
First...I am curious as to how it is less expensive in the long run to house a convict for a life time than it is to use a lethal injection.
I must tell you that rational judgement plays no factor in my mind when it comes to my own children.If it came to sentencing an adult to death for killing another adult,that would take alot of convincing.But to viciously take the life of a child...if someone took one of my children and violated their little bodies out in a field somewhere and then left their lifeless bodies to rot,knowing their last thought would be "where is my mommy"...would I want to see this person dead...with out a doubt...could it by my own hand ,even better.If the justice system could not,or would not erradicate this worthless human being from the earth,I would.
Somewhere in the outskirts of my mind I understand this is not rational thought...but I as a parent would give no thought to feeding the hungry in this situation..and I would have no misgivings to another parent who felt the same.
I promise you...when you have children of your own you probably will not feel this way...but you will understand where it comes from.
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2006/08/17, 10:25 AM
I will say this again:
" Let me just say this menace, that if anyone EVER hurt my two boys they would die and it would take a very very long time."
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2006/08/17, 12:21 PM
Instead of lethal injections, they need to create a large human size deli slicer. The severity of their crime will set the size depth (sandwich slice to shaved). Just set them up on it and let it go. The only cost would be for a little electricity with the majority going to the clean up. That will deter some from doing the crime
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2006/08/17, 12:23 PM
As for religions preaching peace and love the fellow man, that is correct. but there is also an earthly punishment for crimes against man.
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2006/08/17, 03:04 PM
I'm with you on that statement mutt. I can take something happening to me alot easier than I can my children. I can feel myself getting ready to come unglued for just small negative things that involve them, and I can't even imagine my reaction to something like this.
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Quoting from 7707mutt:
Let me just say this menace, that if anyone EVER hurt my two boys they would die and it would take a very very long time.
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2006/08/17, 03:12 PM
I think it is simple and anyone reading this take it like it is: Anyone hurts them gets hurt back. After me would come their mom, grand ma, grand pa, uncles(5 of them) great grand mom and dad, 3 aunts and cousins various friends. We Townsends would reap terrible things on them. I know this sounds corny and all, but I would get put into prison to get to the person that did something to them.
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Less Talk, More Chalk!
The Men and Boys are Separated by one thing: The Squat Cage!
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