Group: Health Supplements

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Supplements can be a great aid with your health and fitness goals. Combined with the proper exercise and nutritional plan they can be quite effective.

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Andro Gel

heffie
heffie
Posts: 8
Joined: 2002/03/21
United States
2002/10/15, 06:35 PM
I have the chance to get perscription Andro Gel, & was wondering if it would help building lean muscle. Andro Gel is topicaly applied real testosterone. I understand it may make a person more frisky in the sex department also. Any info will be most appreciated.

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Jim
bb1fit
bb1fit
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Joined: 2001/06/30
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2002/10/15, 07:09 PM
It works great! Your hands will be huge!!!
bb1fit
bb1fit
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2002/10/15, 07:57 PM
You have to understand that the nutrition industry is big business and it’s
very loosely regulated. As a consumer of nutritional supplements, you
are battling two big obstacles. One is product quality - there are products
on the market that do not contain what there labels say. The second, and
biggest obstacle are products that make false promises – they claim to
cause an effect, when in reality, they do not.

One look through any bodybuilding magazine will reveal countless ads
that make outrageous claims or insinuations about the products they are
promoting. In fact, there are many more ads making fraudulent claims
than ads telling the truth. And to top this off, all the magazines are owned
by supplement companies. This means that the editorial content of the
magazines are nothing more than ads themselves.

If you are turning to the bodybuilding magazines for truthful advice of
supplements, you’re being screwed from both ends. You’re being lied to
from ads that are disguised as articles and you are getting lied to from
the ads themselves.

Simple solution, stop buying the magazines. What are they good for?
They print false ads and bogus articles. Even the training articles are
worthless. Now I have to admit there is usually a good dose of T&A each
month, but hell, even that’s fake.

Look, as far as fraudulent products and bogus claims, the supplement
industry is worst now than it’s ever been. You have pills that magically
make women’s breasts bigger, pills that increase the size of the ol’
Johnson, creams that rub fat away, pills that make you the stud of all
studs, prohormones that are 700% more effective than the most potent
anabolic steroid, myostatin blockers that, as a recent ad put it, “. . . ignites
explosive muscle growth – literally overnight!” and you have more
embarrassingly staged “before and after” photos than I thought were
possible.

Companies now days market there products as though they have
oversized, solid brass balls and no shame whatsoever. They will use the
same “before and after” photos for each product they advertise.
Endorsements are a dime a dozen and there are athletes and even
Doctors that will whore their name out for at the drop of a hat for just a
little cash.

As a consumer, you are swimming upstream. The magazines that
provide a forum and outlet for the fraudulent ads and information don’t
care about you, the companies that are lying to you about there products
sure don’t care about you and the regulatory agencies don’t have time for
you. fficials in the industry regulating industry have said, “Unless someone gets hurt from the
products, we don’t have time to deal with it.”

My advice, use common sense. If it sounds too good to be true, it is.
Demand to see the research. Demand that the research be on the
product that is making the claim. Demand to see the research that
supports the claims that are being made. A recent ad quoted research
that was done on Japanese Quail. Quail for God’s sake. Now is that
f*$%? up or what?

If you see an ad with before and after photos and the before photo has
the person all white and hairy, with their hair messed up, their shoulders
slumped and their gut stuck out as far as possible, I have a bit of news
for you. There’s virtually a 100% chance that the product had very little, if
anything at all, to do with the results shown. I’ve seen one company use
a before photo where the fitness model used was pregnant. It’s total
bullshit and frankly, if you fall for this garbage, you probably deserve to be
swindled.
heffie
heffie
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Joined: 2002/03/21
United States
2002/10/16, 12:44 AM
bbifit, thank you so much for your feedback, I couldn't agree more, with everything you say. However, Andro Gel is not one of the phony supplements that are on the open market, it is a perscription only Testostosterone. I think it's considered a steriod & is used to treat patents who have low levels of it. It is an alternate to taking shots. I know it's the supplement companys who say that Test builds muscle & they sell precursors but they cant sell the real thing, that's perscription only. I just want to know if real "test" does anything for a bodybuilder. Thanks a bunch.

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Jim
rev8ball
rev8ball
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Joined: 2001/12/27
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2002/10/16, 02:56 AM
i am a little familar with andro gel, jim. it was approved by the FDA in 2000, and this made it the first ever testosterone replacement gel ever to be approved by the FDA for replacement therapy in men for conditions associated with low testosterone. the studies showed an almost 90% success rate with elevating diminished serum testosterone levels back to normal levels.

without going into too much chemistry, real test is extremely beneficial to the body builder for several reasons, the 2 major ones being that it increases protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. both are vital to increasing muscle size and strength, as well as decreasing catabolism and recovery time. at the same time, though, an over abundance of test can cause many health problems. however, assuming you're getting this prescription under the care of a physician, the dosages you will be receiving will obviously be considered therapeutic levels, not the mega dosages that some body builders use. you will also have regular monitoring done, such as blood work, to insure that you are getting the correct amount. but even though it will be a low level dose, you should still notice several bonus side effects, though maybe slight: increased stamina, strength, endurance, muscle density, and, yes, even sex drive!

best of luck to you, and let us know how you do…


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Michael
"Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
bb1fit
bb1fit
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2002/10/16, 06:52 PM
Sorry, that was a bad post on my part. I had just come off another "discussion" on worthless supplements, and jumped on the over the counter stuff. Anyway, as rev says, real prescription test can and is very beneficial. It is very useful to bodybuilders for exactly the reasons mentioned, but this is usually just where the problem starts. Bodybuilders in general are of the mind, if some is good, then more is better. Instead of cycling at all, they tend to raise their dosage, scared of losing a precious ounce of muscle. As you can guess, health implications can soon arise. Be careful, and good luck.
heffie
heffie
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Joined: 2002/03/21
United States
2002/10/19, 02:29 AM
Thanks guys, I have been out of town & just now read the latest. Guess I will give this a try & see what happends. I will post any results or comments.