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roelof Posts: 68 Joined: 2002/03/03	2002/07/29, 05:49 PM Anyone here use any kind of andro? If so, experiences, recommendations? ---------------------------- If you can squat heavy and have solid sh*ts, what more can you ask for in life?
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/07/29, 05:52 PM Look under the Supplement forum for posts on Animal Stak. -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
roelof Posts: 68 Joined: 2002/03/03	2002/07/29, 05:57 PM Ok, I looked, but that's just Animal Stak. There's many more. Unless animal stak is the only pro-hormone used on this forum... -------------- If you can squat heavy and have solid sh*ts, what more can you ask for in life?
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/07/29, 06:13 PM Why don't you try typing "andro" using the search button? You'll find dozens of posts... Good luck! -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
roelof Posts: 68 Joined: 2002/03/03	2002/07/29, 06:22 PM Only got three threads, and they were only two lines each, no help there. No prob, I'll get some feedback somewhere else ;-) -------------- If you can squat heavy and have solid sh*ts, what more can you ask for in life?
Philia2 Posts: 4,078 Joined: 2001/10/19	2002/07/30, 02:04 AM Try this one: http://www.supplementwatch.com/supatoz/supplement.asp?supplementId=19 Maybe it can help. -------------- - Nina :o) Vous êtes tous magnifiques!
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/07/30, 11:50 AM Roelof, have you tried typing "prohormone" in the search? I know there's a lot of reading to do, but it's well worth it if you're serious about finding some good discussions on this. Believe me, I've had to do this myself many, many times and found good material using the search function. -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
scotthall Posts: 18 Joined: 2002/05/14	2002/07/30, 02:29 PM Pro hormones are bad, they are going to give you the negative side effects of steroids without the results. Do yourself a favor and save your money.
roelof Posts: 68 Joined: 2002/03/03	2002/07/30, 10:22 PM Not using, just researching.... Knowledge is power. -------------- If you can squat heavy and have solid sh*ts, what more can you ask for in life?
jbennett Posts: 1,558 Joined: 2001/02/28	2002/07/30, 10:37 PM That's odd that the search didn't come up with anything. There have been dozens of times that I know of when that same question has been asked. Oh well. I've used 3 types/brands: Pinnacle Poppers, Testdren-ADP dermal patches, and Universal Nutrition's Animal Stak. To tell you the honest truth, the Pinnacle stuff seemed to do little for me if anything at all. The patch was OK, but no real serious gains. With Animal Stak, I really did feel like an animal. This stuff really does work. I gained 8lbs in no time and added a decent amount to my max bench and squat. The Stak is probably some of the best stuff on the market in the way of prohormones. If you're hesitant about messing with your hormone levels (like I was), then try the M-Stak. No prohormones, but it does has natural anabolic compounds that work great. -------------- --JBennett "I've up-ed my intensity.... now up yours!" "Pain is only weakness leaving the body." "Never think of how weak you are; think of how strong you're going to be."
MuscularStud Posts: 2 Joined: 2004/07/28	2004/07/28, 04:07 PM hey guys i am Adam Gerze and i am also muscularjock16 but i couldnt get a profile with that one so i swiched to this name and i did andro and i didnt get any side effects and i wana know why cuz my friends also took andro and they got rage and glyno
MuscularStud Posts: 2 Joined: 2004/07/28	2004/07/28, 04:08 PM and i still dont have a profile can anyone help me get a profile
Damselfly Posts: 128 Joined: 2004/06/27	2004/07/28, 05:02 PM Did you click the "go" button after you were done filling out your profile? ============ Quoting from MuscularStud: and i still dont have a profile can anyone help me get a profile ============= -------------- Damselfly Whoever said that sunshine brings happiness never danced in the rain. \\"unknown\\"
MuscularJock16 Posts: 6 Joined: 2004/07/25	2004/08/01, 11:59 PM yeah i did and it didnt let me have a profile so i dont know what to do do you kow what i should do to get my profile up and running? i really apritiate you helping me get this thing started
longballer Posts: 163 Joined: 2004/04/04	2004/08/02, 04:31 PM Here are the different PH (andro's) Ive used and had good results from T-100 by SAN gained 3lbs of muscle 1AD ergopharm did well gained a couple pounds of muscle through my cycle Methyl 1 Test by SNS gained 12 lbs in my first 2 weeks on M1T after it was all said and done I probably kepy 8 lbs of that currently Im getting ready for a NPC show in october so im stacking Methyl Dien and Methyl 4OHNXT by SNS using milk thistle of course and will PCT with 6 OXO I'm 5'9 235 at about 9% or 10% bodyfat so Im hoping to come in at 208 or so but Ive been able to keep my strength up while dieting so that has helped tremendously first show Ive done since 1999 this whole dieting thing does really suck lol but anyway those are the prohormones that have worked for me. -------------- keith@seriousnutritionsolutions.com www.seriousnutritonsolutions.com
MuscularJock16 Posts: 6 Joined: 2004/07/25	2004/08/02, 10:42 PM yeah dude i used human growth complex and Andro shock and they worked awsome for me i gained 60 pounds on my squat and 50 pounds on bench in 2 weeks and i didnt get any side effects but my friends got rage and glyno so i dont know what is up with that maybe they just work good for us cuz we are different or somthing i dont know. but andro shock has like 4 or 5 different andros in it. so i dont know what is going on. maybe you can help me longballer
MuscularJock16 Posts: 6 Joined: 2004/07/25	2004/08/02, 10:51 PM hey but the thing is i have been off it for 3 months now and i havent lost any muscle or weight i dont know what is goin on
longballer Posts: 163 Joined: 2004/04/04	2004/08/03, 11:30 AM how old are you and your friends? -------------- keith@seriousnutritionsolutions.com www.seriousnutritonsolutions.com
MuscularJock16 Posts: 6 Joined: 2004/07/25	2004/08/03, 03:40 PM we are only 16 years old
longballer Posts: 163 Joined: 2004/04/04	2004/08/03, 05:37 PM If you are 16 you do NOT need to be taking prohormones you can seriously effect your growth I repeat seriously affect your growth! Prohormones do have side effects especially in teenagers! your natural test levels are already through the roof tampering with those levels will effect your body in a very negative way such as GYNO, shutting down your test levels, in some cases for over a full year. Stick with the basics Creatine, protein, and a good multivitamin, Get your diet in order train hard trust me you will grow! -------------- keith@seriousnutritionsolutions.com www.seriousnutritonsolutions.com
MuscularJock16 Posts: 6 Joined: 2004/07/25	2004/08/04, 09:11 PM ok man thanks, but the thing is that i didnt get any sode effect and my friends did. they both got rage and one of them did actually get glyno, but i didnt get rage or glyno and i really really hope that i didnt tamper with my testosterone levels. if i did how can i tell that i did i mean what is the symptoms and stuff like that. and just to let you know i went on a 2 month sycle of andro and i havnt been on it ever since and that was about 3 months ago. i dont think i am gonna get on andro again cuz i want to quit while im ahead and i i dont want to gat ony of those side effects. but i was thinking of getting on ZMA and i already bought it but i havnt started it yet. if you have any info that i should know about ZMA that would be great to. I really apritiate you helping me out dude....Thanks
longballer Posts: 163 Joined: 2004/04/04	2004/08/05, 11:10 AM Generally speaking gyno begins to develop near the end of your ph cycle puffy itchy nipples latter stages of gyno would be those puffy nipples getting a hardness instead of being puffy and soft. Everybody is different you may not have had the same effects as your friends and if its been a month most likely you are fine. But not a good idea to mess with andro's until you are in your mid twenties. Most andro's especially Methylated versions on the market today are very effective because they are so close to steroids molecule wise so the side effects are very possible and gyno is one of them. My advise to your friend who you think has Gyno is to see a doctor its probably to late for PCT(post cycle therapy)so surgery or other treatments are more than likely his only options if he want to get rid of his gyno. Again that why we manufacturers put warning labels on products. I know its partially companies fault that put ads in magazines that are half truths that lead young guys to believe they can take XYZ's product gain 30lbs of muscle in 8 weeks. Before you buy any more supplements do your research not just read the products ads but go to various message boards ask questions click on the search button! -------------- keith@seriousnutritionsolutions.com www.seriousnutritonsolutions.com
MuscularJock16 Posts: 6 Joined: 2004/07/25	2004/08/05, 02:28 PM ok man i really aprtiate all of your advice thanks for helping me out. it really was nice lerning more about the stuf. and my problem before was i did just read the adds that the suplement put out there and now i know to reserch the positive and the negitive effects.