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ATP CREATINE SERUM?

bigdavid Posts: 139 Joined: 2001/04/05	2003/07/04, 04:35 PM I HEARD ATP CREATINE SERUM WAS DISCONTINUED IM CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY? THE STUFF WORKED GREAT FOR ME.
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2003/07/04, 07:32 PM Huge class action law suit filed against them claiming false advertising and misleading ads, as well as product label fraud. -------------- Michael "Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
bowers Posts: 179 Joined: 2003/04/13	2003/07/04, 10:52 PM Yeah that stuff is garbage completely and totally useless trust me if anyone compares that to the powder there is no comparison the serum is unstable and weak to say the least unless you gulp the stuff you will never reap the full benefits of the great creatine powders. Creapure rules leave the sugar crap alone its unnecessary you don't need it.
bigdavid Posts: 139 Joined: 2001/04/05	2003/07/05, 11:50 AM Damn, yeah since I couldn't find it in the stores,gnc came up with there own liquid creatine,im going to give it a try, I don't know about powders, liquid is faster absorbed rev8ball where did you get all that info?
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2003/07/05, 12:04 PM I'm in the industry, where talk about about MM's dishonesty has been going around in discussion for quite some time. Here's a news article about it: "...Degussa filed the suit Feb. 15, alleging MMUSA is making false claims about powdered creatine. The suit details several alleged legal infractions, including production of deceptive advertising and online marketing materials, trade libel and deceptive trade practices in violation of the Lanham Act (the federal statutes on trademark law). Among the alleged false claims are that creatine serum is safer and more effective than creatine powder; Degussa's suit claims creatine serum is ineffective and "lacks any significant amount of creatine." Degussa is requesting MMUSA be permanently enjoined from making such claims and pay Degussa's legal fees and damages, including punitive damages. It also asked the court to require MMUSA to publish advertisements correcting the statements about creatine powder and serum that are believed to be materially false and misleading. MMUSA responded to the suit May 16, denying all allegations. Among its defenses are that the statements were true when made, were made with an absence of malicious intent to injure Degussa and are protected by the First Amendment. In a public statement, MMUSA noted the structure of its creatine serum molecule is a trade secret, and that only specialized testing methodology can analyze the product properly." -------------- Michael "Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!"
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2003/07/05, 12:57 PM Sorry to tell ya bigdavid, but you wasted your money, bought into the hype and used a worthless product.
richardjst Posts: 410 Joined: 2002/07/13	2003/07/05, 11:31 PM you know that it's all a mental game...you were probably thinking i can get one more rep the creatine will help...so instead of worring about the weight you had actually convinced yourself you could get that rep...when I had realized that it was me that was doing the work and not the serum is when I quit taking it. -------------- Diet- Only take what you need...There is no fine line between want and need, there is the whole continent of South America.~Dick
bigdavid Posts: 139 Joined: 2001/04/05	2003/07/09, 11:18 AM thank you all
littledude Posts: 28 Joined: 2003/06/16	2003/07/21, 08:01 PM so what is the deal though, what kind of creatine is the best. Also can anyone tell me how you are supposed to eat while on creatine. I am doing the normal- focusing on proteins, carbs, and limiting fats and sugars. Is there a more effective diet that should be eaten while on creatine? thanks