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doc_jr Posts: 12 Joined: 2004/01/29	2004/01/30, 10:01 AM hi there, i bench 3oolbs max on a good day, im 24 and i was woundering if there is like a level of weight you should be able to lift with in age groups?
hecdarec Posts: 2,457 Joined: 2003/12/16	2004/01/30, 10:05 AM Yes here is the chart: 0-5 should be benchin 25-50 lbs 5-10 should be benching 80-99 lbs 10-15 should be benching 100-199 lbs 16-20 should be benching 200-299 lbs 20-25 should be benching 300-399 lbs. So as you can see by using these scientific charts, you are right on schedule. I myself am 27 and I can bench 450 so I am on pace too. -------------- Hec da Rec in full effect.
doc_jr Posts: 12 Joined: 2004/01/29	2004/01/30, 10:13 AM what is this a chart base on genral studies or the amount you lift?
hecdarec Posts: 2,457 Joined: 2003/12/16	2004/01/30, 10:16 AM you are kidding right? -------------- Hec da Rec in full effect.
scotty3 Posts: 4 Joined: 2004/01/30	2004/01/30, 10:38 AM doc_jr there are people that somtime defie the odds so realy there are on age groups.
fryer91 Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/09/29	2004/01/30, 11:23 AM Good job on the 300...I hope you didn't take the chart seriously...Everybody is different! I can't lift much weight in anything, but there is always tomorrow, next day, next day, next day...Keep it up...
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2004/01/30, 11:33 AM Why do people always hit on the bench and the mark by which they grade others....bench is really a cheat exercise anyway. 99.9% of all benchers cheat at the reps to lift the weight. I do not even max out at all....I would rather have a 600lb deadlift than a 400lb bench! -------------- LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/01/30, 11:47 AM so doc..............what u u squat, clean deadlift?...........yes a 300lb bench is nice......and thats probbaly where i'm at or a lil more and i'm younger than you......but so waht u can do one time 300? i can bench 200 almost 20 times.....doings omthing for more reps impresses me more than one time,but joking aside......anone who asks" whats your bench" needs or wants and ego lift cause that more than likly the only lift they do............besides you get in a fight withsome one..........you gonna impress them by bench pressing them?? -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/01/30, 11:52 AM let me add on though, i knwo many people powerlift and that is the only time i think you should worry about a max lift......most maxing is for egos sake.........just wanted to clarify -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
	2004/01/30, 12:06 PM Hec, I'm 50 so.....holy crap, I need all my fingers and toes for this. Maybee my weenie little lifts will come up some day. -------------- Its like herding cats. Charlie
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/01/30, 12:19 PM no ones a weenie, you should work out to feel good, and feel beter about yourself thats all that should matter, not weight -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
yadmit Posts: 4,670 Joined: 2003/10/05	2004/01/30, 06:08 PM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... Damned funny! ============ Quoting from hecdarec: Yes here is the chart: 0-5 should be benchin 25-50 lbs 5-10 should be benching 80-99 lbs 10-15 should be benching 100-199 lbs 16-20 should be benching 200-299 lbs 20-25 should be benching 300-399 lbs. So as you can see by using these scientific charts, you are right on schedule. I myself am 27 and I can bench 450 so I am on pace too. ============= -------------- Tim "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies, for the hardest victory is over self." Aristotle
R_Mitty Posts: 54 Joined: 2003/08/29	2004/01/30, 06:13 PM According to the chart, I'm gonna have to make sure my 4 year old neighbour is on pace with his bench press. Anything under 25 lbs is unacceptable.
hecdarec Posts: 2,457 Joined: 2003/12/16	2004/01/31, 11:07 AM Stay on him mitty! -------------- Hec da Rec in full effect.
ioioio Posts: 302 Joined: 2004/01/29	2004/01/31, 06:42 PM I don't agree with the chart. My friend is younger than me and he can pick up 60lb more than me!!!!!
esmuva06 Posts: 57 Joined: 2003/11/10	2004/02/01, 12:30 AM mutt, bench is only a cheat exercise for people who don't know what they are doing... and no it isn't the most important lift, but it is a measure of progress for anyone just getting started. you should keep track of how much you can bench correctly once every 6 months or so... i do agree that doing dead lifts, squats, and power cleans are much more important though for overall strength and fitness levels. by the way... 300 is a good amount of weight, but instead of age group go by how much you weigh. doing your own body weight 12 times or so means you are in pretty good shape.... hitting it up or 20 to 25 though.... your doing something
hecdarec Posts: 2,457 Joined: 2003/12/16	2004/02/01, 08:05 AM You know people sit on here and brag about how much they can bench and all that. Does that mean that you are in shape because you are benching 300? I could care less about how much weight I lift, as long as I continue working out to the best of my ability and keep myself looking and FELLING good. All these people who are on here talking about benching, why dont you come on a 3mile run with me and we will see just how IN SHAPE you are. Sorry, I needed to vent. -------------- Hec da Rec in full effect.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2004/02/01, 10:24 AM Most people that I have seen in 10 years of lifting do not do the exercise right. I have talked with por body builders and know more than a few record holding powerlifters...all of them say that the bench is way overrated as a means of checking your progress. Does this mean that I think you should not do it? No I use it a lot....but I will not do it with out good form. Could I hit more than I do? Yup I know I can. But everyone who comes to thses site to ask this question and getting old...who really carse if you are at the "right spot" for your age. Every one is different. I can deadlift and squat a heck of a lot more than I will ever bench. while I know many that for them it is the reverse! Just my opinion. -------------- LIFT HEAVY! BECOME STRONG, LIKE BULL!
hecdarec Posts: 2,457 Joined: 2003/12/16	2004/02/02, 07:39 AM The chart was completely made up -------------- Hec da Rec in full effect.
whtsqrlnut Posts: 5 Joined: 2004/01/25	2004/02/02, 09:32 AM WOW! this post is like a rerun of a springer show! & all because of one guys fate chart and alot of take it as they see it folks. LOL..keep em coming. As for the real Question, no there is not a chart or certain amt of wt you should be lifting, there are way to many variables to factor into individual perform to break "benching" into a scientific chart. in fact, it isnt a measuring stick for physical fitness, simply your ego. work hard, play harder!
	2004/02/02, 12:53 PM whtsqrinut, you are right . Don't use the chart. I am 50 years old. I use my buddy Hec's chart and threw 1200 lbs on the bar. When I lay down on the bench the whole damn thing collapsed and I've been trapped here in my basement for a week. I think Hec's chart may be bogus. I wish I had one of those "I've fallen and I can't get up" thingies. I will never listen to a damn jarhead again. Could someone call the paramedics?? -------------- Its like herding cats. Charlie
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/02/02, 02:16 PM ============ Quoting from neov3: ok i bench just under 400lbs, but dont have the srongest legs in the world so i like to keep track of my upper body strenth with a bench press rather that a deadlift or a power clean, and im sure so do a lot of other people. the chart, is a basic out line, but i dont know to mean 0-10 year old kids how bench,lol ============= i don't have strongest legs either.......but I worked on it just liek my upper body strength,,,,,,,,,i mean think about it.........do you honestly put as much effort into your legs as you do your arms or chest? do you measure your quads as much as yours biceps? do you do and extra set of calf raises, like you would on tricpe day or chest day?...........if poepl worked hard on the legs as they did their upper body then no one would have a weak point, and the bench press wouldn't always be filled up at the weight rooms. So in my opinion there are no excuses ! I have no pitty for somone who can't squat more than they can bench.. unless they are paralized from the waist down........no excuses period -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2004/02/02, 02:40 PM I can bench ONE-MMMILION pounds...HECREC, LOL. F BENCH!! -------------- May the lift be with you.
	2004/02/02, 02:43 PM Well how 'bout pull me off the floor and outa this basment Mr Delts!!! -------------- Its like herding cats. Charlie
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2004/02/02, 02:54 PM I had to endure that travisty of a game in Boston surrounded by obnoxious Pats fans....so freakin close man, but so many chances slipped away. Good game though. Sorry my Carolina friend, at least Philly didn't win! -------------- May the lift be with you.
fryer91 Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/09/29	2004/02/02, 03:42 PM Hey, I pressed 125 today...Someday I will have those big plates on each end...
jplatz Posts: 196 Joined: 2002/10/08	2004/02/02, 05:35 PM LOL Fryer!! For you guys who focus on the bench, Neov and doc, keep in mind that bodybuilding is just that. Building your entire body, not just the upper portion. I've stated before that most people only look at the upper body at first, but trust me, they're laughing their asses off at you guys when you run around in shorts. And if they're not, then guys like me will be. I have to give you props Hec, nice job of wreaking havoc! I love the "chart"! Keep up the good work. -------------- Pain is but a threshold to greater strength.
fryer91 Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/09/29	2004/02/02, 06:01 PM LOL Fryer!! What's that suppose to mean? I pressed 125 today; no joke, and I had to work up to it. I actually did 4 sets of 4 with 125, but that is all I could muster.
fryer91 Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/09/29	2004/02/02, 06:04 PM I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo weak, but i'm a working at it.
hecdarec Posts: 2,457 Joined: 2003/12/16	2004/02/02, 06:53 PM What started out as pure sarcasm on my part, turned out to be an informative, yet funny thread. I am glad we can learn something from this. Poor Charlie, pumpin away at the weights to try and get his age requirement! -------------- Hec da Rec in full effect.
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/02/03, 04:44 PM well if you worked on them as you should you could be deadlifting twice that......i mean ihave tendinitis in both knees, I have had my back erectors almost pulled off my spine...........but hay I still do it...........................Why would you max on bench press with your back artched? It looks retarded not to mention your gonna hurt yourself? If your back not flat..........but correct me if i'm wrong in a compotition your back hase to be flat.........i'm sur emany powerlifters can arch there back and bounce the weight off their chest and bench 1500lbs, but does it count? No -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2004/02/03, 05:37 PM Depending on the federation, not only do some of the rules change, but so does legitimate judging (a topic for another time *ahem*). Most allow some arching of the back, with the butt and shoulders still being in contact with the bench, as well as the feet CANNOT move. Some require that your head cannot move as well, especially coming off the bench. You cannot bounce the weight off your chest; there must be a pause, and you can only press when the head judge tells you to; contrary to popular belief, bouncing (or pausing too long) actually makes the lift more difficult, in addition to possibly dislocating your sternum. There are many other rules (as well as other outside variables) that apply in a competition, which is why it is not uncommon to see a 30 pound differnce between a powerlifter's PR in a gym vs his lift at a meet. -------------- Michael Trample the weak; hurdle the dead! Chaos, Panic, Disorder.... Yes, my work here is done!
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/02/03, 05:40 PM legitimate judging? explain Mr. ball? lol * ahem* -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
Jdelts Posts: 1,218 Joined: 2003/10/19	2004/02/04, 01:48 AM Amen Reverend! I'd love to see people's real maxes after using proper form. Andrew, I thought you were smarter than that to lift with tendonitis in both knees. I know you are hard-core but be careful man...your knees go, so do the precious cheerleader freinds you lift. -------------- May the lift be with you.
whtsqrlnut Posts: 5 Joined: 2004/01/25	2004/02/04, 11:05 AM What was the Question agian?
fryer91 Posts: 441 Joined: 2003/09/29	2004/02/04, 11:16 AM Did I already say that I pressed 125 the other day? Arched back a little, but didn't bounce...Had a hell of a time locking out.
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2004/02/04, 11:20 AM Good for you, fryer, and with good form, no less. Keep it up, and you'll be hitting even bigger numbers in no time. Good luck! -------------- Michael Trample the weak; hurdle the dead! Chaos, Panic, Disorder.... Yes, my work here is done!
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/02/04, 02:37 PM no no no Mr.Delts its not that bad, besides I wrap them with wraps to stabilize the knees, the docs who look at my kness say they are fine to lift with its not that bad lol I warm up properly with light weight before I go heavy, not till my 3 set do I Go over 350. Plus actually the more i do squats better my knees actually feel, besides thats no excuse to me anyways, if i can squat parallel with tendinitis then anyone can -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
esmuva06 Posts: 57 Joined: 2003/11/10	2004/02/04, 05:54 PM i agree with the wanting to see people's max's if they did the lift right. someone said something about arching on bench up there somewhere... be careful with that i know a guy who got seriously hurt doing that. i have tendinitis also andrew, only in one knee though... when it happens it does feel better as you go, but my usual leg workout is 14 to 18 sets.. when my tendinitis acts up i only do 2 sets of squats, high reps... like 225 a couple sets of 15... just keeping the form perfect... i cut out extensions entirely and hit lying leg curls... if its too bad i just take a week or two off from legs, it won't hurt you or your max to do that, and trust me your knees feel a ton better. by the way, do the wraps help a whole lot?? do you recommend them?
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2004/02/05, 09:59 AM I liek the wraps due to the fact thet help stablize my knee...........but i only use them when I go over 315 and only on squats..........leg presses, hacks, fronts, zechular squats, sumo I do all those with out wraps -------------- ---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records! LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
ehudson1968 Posts: 8 Joined: 2002/02/21	2004/02/07, 12:37 PM Since at around 35 some people consider me past my prime, does that mean I can start going down in my lifts. Also does your chart level off or should I be lifting like 800 lbs.-----------Yes, this is a joke. Personally I'm kind of vain. I lift to change how I look, I really don't care how much I lift other then tracking my intensity. I think if you keep comparing yourself to others you always end up disappointed because there will always be some one bigger and stronger then you. Tonya Knight could do reps on incline press with 85 lb dumbells at a body weight of 140 lbs. That kicks my butt.
ehudson1968 Posts: 8 Joined: 2002/02/21	2004/02/07, 12:57 PM Hey Charlie, remember to pyramid your weights. Try starting at 900 lbs. going up in 100 lb increments. You'll make it to 1200 in no time.
	2004/02/07, 01:23 PM ehudson, I'm still pinned under this damn bench. I thought hec was serious. -------------- Some times life is like herding cats. Charlie