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enraya
enraya
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2005/06/26, 08:13 AM
what's the fastest way to tone and get leaner biceps?

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bigandrew
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2005/06/26, 09:53 AM
that would mean loosing body fat.......diet

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blue77
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2005/06/27, 08:06 PM
up your reps to twelve or fifteen,between two or three exercises,or have you tried supersets or giant sets,get your body fat down to ten percent of lower so you can pop out those veins.
bigandrew
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2005/06/27, 08:53 PM
so how does upping the reps make you more cut? Cause one can't "burn fat" off the arms with high reps?

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gangstershoes
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2005/06/28, 10:57 AM
lower reps build mass, higher reps cut/tone because they provide more emphasis on form, and endurance of the targeted muscle.

so how does upping the reps make you more cut?

bigandrew
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2005/06/28, 06:04 PM
I use good form on my high reps...i'm not cut?

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bigandrew
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2005/06/29, 08:55 AM
low reps* not high reps...

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gangstershoes
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2005/06/29, 09:03 AM
it's a combination of leaning your diet out as well andrew.
gangstershoes
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2005/06/29, 09:37 AM
quote from abcbodybuilding.com explains it better than I could in my own words.
"Let me start out by saying that there actually is some validity to the old high rep cutting method. Just not the way it is normally portrayed. What I mean is that high reps will not actually burn fat off of an area or make it more cut. Obviously you need an overall dieting and workout program which is designed to lower body fat to do this. The validity however is determined by the situation we as athletes find ourselves in during pre-contest preparation.

The situation definitely has to effect how we lift. During this time, we are eating less, increasing our cardio and or lowering our carbohydrates. All this spells out one thing, and that is depletion! In fact usually by the end of a training split an athlete is extremely depleted! When fatigue and depletion set in, it means that two aspects of our training are effected. The first is that the chances of us getting injured from heavy lifting have increased and the second is that our ability to lift more weight is effected due to lower muscle energy stores.

When the poundage's slightly drop( due to either lower energy stores or a caution against injury ), one of the best ways to make up for this is to pick up the pace of the workout. Which means slightly higher reps and less rest between sets. Therefore, in the off season you may see an athlete train in the 4-8 or 4-10 repetition range. During pre-contest I usually never recommend going below 6 repetitions, and frequently hover around the 12-15 repetition range. Again, not because higher reps actually burn fat off of an area, but to make up for the slight drop in poundage's. This is just one of many ways to maintain and even gain muscle on a cut, when your stores are low. There are many others, each of which will be discussed in future issues!

Good luck!"

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/aprilquestionsandanswers.php
gangstershoes
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2005/06/29, 09:49 AM
basicly
low energy stores, endurance, and low-speed concentrated form (ie 12-15 reps cutting up)
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high energy stores, strength, and high-speed proper form (ie 4-6 reps mass building)
kakaroto
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2005/06/29, 05:14 PM
i am agree, but not only because you do high reps you will cut. DIET is the key. period
DX14AG
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2005/06/29, 06:16 PM
I second that

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bigandrew
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2005/06/30, 07:17 PM
If you have low energy stores....then why no go balls to wall......progressivly heavier weights....build muscle.....if that stimulation isn't there....they why keep it around? Muscle endurance is a lil different.....yes you need both.....however the highest weight you can lift for 10-6 reps will preserve the muscle.....not sets of 15.....

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2005/07/09, 11:57 AM
Don't you have slow twitch muscle fibers and fast twitch muscle fibers and thats why when you you do high reps with less weight the fast twitch fibers that don't normally work as hard gets to work wich promotes "cutting"?
ironmonga
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2005/07/15, 04:36 PM
Slow nedium and fast. We actually train our medium fibers mainly whilst weight traing. You can omly truly use fast twitch fibers with eccentric training. Fast twitch are larger than medium fibres and are usualy used involuntry ie if you pull somthing from a high shelf that is heavyer than you was expecting or you fall and have to grab somthing, some how you seem to have hidden strenght? no, this is where the fast twichers kick in instantly to save you from harm, this is how eccentrics work by throwing a heavy weight up and then trying to control its deccent. You can be trained to use these muscles volentarely,I understand that ballet dancers are skilled at useing fast twitch fibers.
blue77
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2005/07/28, 12:20 AM
well put Gangstershoes,I like your Traing emphassis happy trails.:cool:
irondog
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2005/07/29, 08:24 PM
diet diet diet you can`t spot reduce

if you burn more calories than you take in you will lose weight.so you can either up your activity levels or lower your calories it is that simple