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timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/01/17, 02:33 AM How good are Cleans what do they do exactly? and how good are they for your back? im assumign they thicken your back?? i always feel sore the enxt day after cleans in my back and ABS so how good are they really?? i never really feel sore in my abs from doing situps or crunches... also what other exercises can you do apart frmo pullups chins or pulldowns to widen your back??
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/01/17, 12:21 PM cleans for the most part are not a "bodybuilding" excercise....they are for speed, and explosion. They if done right work the entire body. -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/01/18, 12:23 AM ok question do they thicken your back like rows? cuz they cant.. widen it.. its nothing like a chinup... and what day would youa dd it on back day??...
nellyboy Posts: 209 Joined: 2004/07/09	2005/01/18, 06:56 PM the typical "cleaner" has well developed upper traps, shoulders and low back (christmas tree)...oh yeah and scars on their shins!
arondaballer Posts: 1,054 Joined: 2003/06/14	2005/01/19, 10:23 PM This is true, but cleans are NOT a bodybuilding exercise. They are strictly a power development exercise, and you will not get much bigger from doing them like you would with rows or pull-ups. You're supposed to focus on using your legs as the force and get underneath the bar after you explode up-not pull the weight up with your shoulders. -------------- I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-victorious. --Vince Lombardi "Decide what you want, decide what you are willing to exchange for it. Establish your priorities and go to work." H. L. Hunt
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/01/21, 02:06 PM theres a diff however in "welldevoloped" and a body building back. to widen the back.....pull ups mainly, since they stretch the back the most, and stretch the shoulders blades since they aren't attched to the skelaton, pull ups help "pull" them up and out....hinch widen the back. any form of row will thicken the back, however since your contracting the shoulder blades inward.....this however will move the shoulder blades inward, there by not widing the upper back/ shoulder area. -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/01/22, 06:16 AM and that last post has what to do with cleans.......?
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/01/22, 01:18 PM tim........I thought your dad was like mr austrila or somthing......you know eating 15000 calories a day? why not ask him some of this stuff? -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!
timmstar Posts: 426 Joined: 2003/12/08	2005/01/25, 02:38 AM Message deleted by moderator due to unsuitable content for this board.
7707mutt Posts: 7,686 Joined: 2002/06/18	2005/01/25, 12:36 PM Allright guys knock it off..timmstar this is uncalled for and is not acceptable here -------------- If you can itch your nose after arm day...do another set! 7707mutt@freetrainers.com
	2005/02/07, 09:18 PM I have a tendency to arch back with my back...and use mostly my lower back instead of legs....How do I fix this?
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/02/09, 01:51 PM your probably pull back too much.....I saw this alot in high school......imagine doing a really high upright row, but with your legs. If you have to set up light weight, grab it liek you would to clean it, but explode with legs bring the bar as high as possible, then set it back down......should get you used to pulling up, and not back. -------------- My drinking squad, has a cheerleading problem!!