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2005/05/16, 06:04 PM
I want something that will work with my diet and exercise to speed up the cutting phase a little. I've got about 12 pounds of fat to burn and want to burn it in a month's time if possible. I've heard 7-keto is a good supplement to diet and exercise. ANy comments?
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2005/05/16, 06:10 PM
Ive posted on this a couple times you can do a search at the bottom of the page.
12 pounds in a month is very hard im lucky to loose 2 lbs a week at best...but yes it is a very good and proven supplement.
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2005/05/17, 11:38 AM
7 keto is a good addition. Do not expect miracles, but the leaner you are, the better it works.
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bb1fit@freetrainers.com
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2005/05/17, 05:26 PM
Cool. I don't expect miracles at all, just using it as it's meant to be used- as a supplement to my diet and exercise.
What specific brand should I get? Hot Rox, or something different? Do they sell 7-keto as a supplement alone? And where can I get it, the vitamin shoppe?
Also, using this won't target muscle loss over fat loss will it? I want to lose fat pounds, not just any weight.
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2005/05/17, 07:31 PM
I checked out a prior post BB1, where he said that keto-7 helps to push your body towards a lean muscular physique, which is what I'm after, of course.
However, I don't to take one of these pills that alters my heartrate or gives me artificial energy or something. I read a link put up by SkinnyM in another post where I read that keto 7 is a derivative of DHEA. Is that dangerous for a man my age, that being 23?
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2005/05/18, 01:08 AM
What Is 7 Keto DHEA?
7-Keto DHEA is a safer and more potent form of DHEA, the well-known "mother hormone", a substance known to ameliorate the effects of aging on many body functions. 7 Keto is NOT DHEA. It is a natural metabolite of DHEA meaning that our bodies eventually convert DHEA into 7 Keto DHEA in the skin and kidneys before going on to fortify us.
Summary of 7-Keto's actions and benefits:
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Helpful in reducing body fat for safe weight loss
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Strengthens immune function
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Helps balance thyroid function
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Enhances the liver enzyme catalase
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Enhances IGF-1 (Growth Hormone) hormone production
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Improves cognitive function and enhances memory
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May be helpful in Alzheimer's disease
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Helpful for overcoming insulin resistance in type II diabetes
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Relieves depression
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Has anti-aging benefits
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Helps lower stress-induced high blood pressure and may be beneficial for other heart-related diseases.
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Increases muscle mass
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Eases inflammatory conditions like lupus and arthritis
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May help prevent HIV wasting
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May be advantageous in helping to fight Parkinson's disease
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Boosts energy and relieves fatigue
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Prevents skin from wrinkling
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Fights allergic reactions
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Helpful for Asthma
Perhaps the most fundamental difference between DHEA and 7 Keto DHEA is that 7 Keto DHEA is already converted DHEA, thus it will NOT dangerously spike estrogen and testosterone as does old fashioned DHEA. In fact, studies have shown that "Old Fashioned" DHEA can raise blood levels of testosterone by much as 10 times above normal.
Since 7-Keto does not convert into testosterone or estrogens, it is a one-hundred percent safe alternative to its parent compound. (Elevated testosterone can put beards on women's faces or cultivate prostate cancer in men. Moreover, high levels of testosterone may convert into estrogen in men. Women taking regular DHEA should be especially aware of the possibility of clitoral enlargement, and voice lowering).
7 Keto is non-toxic. Liver and blood hormone levels have shown it to be "Completely innocuous," says Henry Lardy, Chairman Emeritus of the Enzyme Institute at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. "No-one has found any adverse side effects."
7 Keto DHEA has been proven to promote greater weight loss than DHEA. One clinical trial published in the Journal of Exercise Physiology Online looked at 30 obese people who took a placebo or 7-KETO, a commercial version of 7 Keto that's sold as a food supplement. Both groups took three one-hour sessions of aerobic and anaerobic exercise per week. At the end of the eight-week study, the 7-KETO group had lost 1.8 percent of body fat, compared to 0.57 percent among the placebo exercisers. Their overall weight loss was 2.88 kilos, about three times the loss among those who took the placebo.
There are signs that 7 Keto DHEA helps the body loose weight by mimicking thyroid hormones which cause the body to make more heat, thus burning more calories without really doing anything. Quite simply this means that by increasing thyroid enzymes it is a thermogenic.
7 Keto lends greater support to the immune system by increasing IL-2 production in human lymphocytes. IL-2 is the key cytokine regulator of T-helper cells which helps activate the immune system against invading pathogens.
7 Keto helps to reduce cortisol. Cortisol is a hormone associated with stress as well as chronic mood disorders and aging.
7-Keto DHEA is more potent than DHEA. Anyone suffering any serious disease or hormonal condition should only use DHEA under competent medical supervision. On the other hand, 7 Keto may be effective at doses as low as 5-10 mg/per day with 25-50 mgs per day being adequate for use in disease treatment under medical supervision.
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http://www.hbcprotocols.com/keto/whatis.html
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2005/05/18, 01:38 AM
http://www.kroger.com/hn/Supp/7-KETO.htm#Side-Effects
Here's another site....that's informative
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2005/05/18, 09:50 AM
Here is my favorite. The stack is great, the company outstanding.
http://www.dpsnutrition.net/product_information.asp?number=BV023&back=yes&dept=1425&last=1425
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bb1fit@freetrainers.com
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2005/05/20, 07:23 PM
OK, I just ordered a bottle for BB1's link. It comes with 90 capsules, although the serving size is probably like 3 of them, but I'm hopig this bottle is all I need as I don't want to use it for an extended period of time...
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2005/05/30, 02:45 AM
OK, I got the bottle today. When should I take it, in the morning?
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2005/05/30, 05:07 AM
Got a bottle from dps as bb1 suggested...hopefully it will work for me...I am at about 7%...just want to get rid of the small layer of fat over the lower 2 abs....can see the upper 6 fairly well...
I think it says on the label for the best times to take it....
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2005/05/30, 11:06 AM
Follow label directions.
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Quoting from senor:
OK, I got the bottle today. When should I take it, in the morning?
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If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
bb1fit@freetrainers.com
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2005/06/04, 07:38 PM
Is this stuff speedy, i.e. does it make you jittery? I've avoided most diet pills b/c I don't want to mess w/ my heart or thyroid.
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2005/06/04, 08:21 PM
No, it is not like that. It is very subtle in its effects.
For more immediate "feelings" with results, try cAMP. Great stuff, gets stronger as you use it.
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If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
bb1fit@freetrainers.com
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2005/06/29, 12:21 PM
Does this stuff target fat or just help increase calories burned or give you energy or what? What is its role in fat burning?
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2005/06/29, 12:40 PM
7 keto will up-regulate your metabolic “Set Point”. This set point is the level of fat that your body constantly strives to maintain in storage. 7-Keto has been proven to shift your metabolic set point in favor of a leaner more muscular physique while keeping your metabolism supercharged.
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If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
bb1fit@freetrainers.com
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2005/07/24, 03:20 PM
first do a test. i have this more often than anything. Crab the extra "skin" around your stomach. pull it and pinch it. If it ripples kind of wave like. i have good news. its not fat. its actually water retention. So what do you do? Get yourself some dandelion root, 4-5 times a day take it. Up your water by half a gallon.( should be drinking atleast close to a gallon of water per day) and cardio regularly. when your doing cardio, sweat sweat sweat!!! a good test to see if ur getting rid of water retention sodium, ect. is if your sweating and it tastes like salt. if your sweating and it tastes like water, thats what you want! good luck, keep it real man
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