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bb1fit
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2005/06/05, 10:05 AM
My goal on this board is to help others reach theirs. This is a product that actually works, I can personally attest to, and is high quality. If you put forth a bit of effort on your end(sensible diet for example), this product will greatly assist you. Unlike many others, it has varying capabilities, and is a truly remarkable product. The company is a "people" oriented company also, USP Labs. This is a product that unlike most, 99% of you will not be disappointed in. :big_smile: (I have no interest, stock, or whatever in the company). Just a genuine desire to pass on quality when I find it. :big_smile:

cAMPHIBOLIC

What it does?

--Liberates fat from fat cells like Clen and Ephedrine. Unlike the others, cAMPHIBOLIC by passes the beta receptors so downregulation of receptors is not an issue. Clen and Ephedrine lose it's effects after 2-4 weeks plus clen can damage the heart and with ephedrine some get anxiety, jitters and crash after 2 hours later which is almost an addictive drug feel. With cAMPHIBOLIC, You just feel HOT and with a nice sustained energy.

cAMPHIBOLIC acts independently of beta receptors, even cells whose beta receptors have been severely downregulated by exposure to beta2 agonists are still responsive to forskolin. So a person who has been using clenbuterol or albuterol over an extended period might consider switching to a cAMPHIBOLIC, achieving the same net result of fat loss by bypassing the downregulated beta-receptors.

--Boost thyroid levels so you burn fat while resting!! You can liberate all the fat but with out elevating metabolic rate fat will redeposit in fat cells. cAMPHIBOLIC liberates fat and burns fat at REST. forskolin promotes the conversion of the relatively inactive T4 to its potent metabolite T3.

--Increace Mood--several studies have shown that patients suffering from depression have reduced levels of activity of cAMP( cyclic adenosine monophosphate ) signaling in the brain. cAMPHIBOLIC increase cAMP!

--Increase Sexual desire--It also has the ability to relax smooth muscles in the penis, allowing the organ to fill with blood. If you really want to punish the misses add cAMPHIBOLIC with Viagra and cialis. synergistic effect on erection when forskolin was combined with Viagra. So the agents alone promote erection, and when combined exhibit synergism, an effect greater than the sum of the two!

--Increase Testosterone production--Testosterone is produced in testicular Leydig cells when LH binds to surface receptors and initiates a signaling cascade involving elevated levels of cAMP. This cascade leads ultimately to increased levels of an important Leydig cell cholesterol transfer protein (16) (testosterone is made from cholesterol) and activation of steroidogenic enzymes involved in testosterone production (17). So by elevating levels of cAMP, (with forskolin) an intermediate in the signaling cascade that ranges from LH binding to testosterone production, we should see an increase in testosterone output...

FOR THE OLDER MEN ON THE FORUM!
This may be particularly important for those of us who are feeling the effects of aging. testosterone production declined with age as a function of declining cAMP levels. So something is keeping LH from elevating cAMP and inducing steroidogenesis.

--elevating cAMP promotes anabolism--AAS users are all too familiar with the latter effect, when hard-earned gains rapidly disappear post-cycle. Much of this atrophy is caused by the action of the so-called calpains. The calpains are a family of calcium dependent enzymes that degrade unused muscle tissue. Calpains in turn are inhibited by another endogenous compound called calpastatin. How is this related to forskolin? It turns out that calpastatin is upregulated by cAMP . Thus not only does cAMPHIBOLIC promote anabolism, it slows muscle catabolism when muscle is not being used extensively. This would be expected to be important when a person is immobilized or unable to train due to injury, or is simply unable to maintain the rigorous training regimen off cycle that they adhered to while on AAS.

--REDUCE CORTISOL--antiglucocorticoid properties of cAMPHIBOLIC are likely of much more interest to the average bodybuilder or athlete, since endogenous glucocorticoids, particularly cortisol, are not only catabolic to bone, but catabolize muscle tissue as well. By exerting an anabolic, antiglucorticoid effect cAMPHIBOLIC helps preserve muscle tissue during times of physical and emotional stress.

--Stop GLUCOSE UPTAKE IN fat cells--this appears to be a cAMP independent phenomenon, with cAMPHIBOLIC directly inhibiting the glucose transport. This is likely another mechanism whereby glucose promotes fat burning. With limited glucose for use as fuel, fat cells must rely on their own stored fat to carry out the metabolic processes required for their survival.

Here is a link to the product, they have a buy 3 get one free special as we speak. http://www.synergymuscle.com/catalog/



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SkinnyM6886
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2005/06/05, 02:40 PM
Are you going to do a log on this one?

By the way how did your contest go, what place did you get?
bb1fit
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2005/06/05, 02:52 PM
I have used this already, in fact used it when stopping X Factor. It truly made the difference between a second and fifth place finish. Truly great stuff, or I wouldn't put it up there. Also great at the same time if you have a nagging injury. Will make a post in a bit as to that in the injury forum. I truly believe this is one of the most worthwhile supplements I have ever done, no guesswork here if it really worked or not! Here is one writeup on the Cissus aspect of it.(which as mentioned is contained in cAMP).

Written by Karl Hoffmann:


Cissus quadrangularis


Cissus quadrangularis is an ancient medicinal plant native to the hotter parts of Ceylon and India. It was prescribed in the ancient Ayurvedic texts as a general tonic and analgesic, with specific bone fracture healing properties. Modern research has shed light on Cissus' ability to speed bone healing by showing it acts as a glucocorticoid antagonist (1,2). Since anabolic/androgenic compounds are well known to act as antagonists to the glucocorticoid receptor as well as promote bone growth and fracture healing, it has been postulated that Cissus possesses anabolic and/or androgenic properties (1,3). In addition to speeding the remodeling process of the healing bone, Cissus also leads to a much faster increase in bone tensile strength. In clinical trials Cissus has led to a fracture healing time on the order of 55 to 33 percent of that of controls. That cissus exerts antiglucocorticoid properties is suggested by a number of studies where bones were weakend by treatment with cortisol, and upon administration of Cissus extract the cortisol induced weakening was halted, and the healing process begun.

While the increased rate of bone healing may be of great significance to persons suffering from chronic diseases like osteoporosis (4), the antiglucocorticoid properties of Cissus are likely of much more interest to the average bodybuilder or athlete, since endogenous glucocorticoids, particularly cortisol, are not only catabolic to bone, but catabolize muscle tissue as well. Numerous studies over the years have suggested that glucorticoids, including the body's endogenous hormone cortisol activate pathways that degrade not only bone, but skeletal muscle tissue as well. A recently published report documented exactly how glucocorticoids (including cortisol) induce muscle breakdown: They activate the so-called ubiquitin-proteasome pathway of proteolysis (5). This pathway of tissue breakdown is important for removing damaged and non-functional proteins. However, when it is overactive during periods of elevated cortisol (e.g disease states, stress, and overtraining) excess amounts of normal tissue are broken down as well. By exerting an anabolic, antiglucorticoid effect cissus helps preserve muscle tissue during times of physical and emotional stress.

Although the bulk of the research on Cissus centers around bone healing, the possibility exists that Cissus may act to improve bone healing it may improve the healing rate of connective tissue in general, including tendons. If this is the case it would be of great benefit to bodybuilders and athletes.

Besides the above-mentioned properties of Cissus, the plant is also rich in the vitamins/antioxidants vitamin C and beta-carotene. As analyzed, Cissus quadrangularis contained ascorbic acid 479 mg, and carotene 267 units per 100g of freshly prepared paste in addition to calcium oxalate (6).

The typical recommended daily dosage of Cissus extract is between 100 and 500 mg, depending on the concentration of the extract and the severity of symptoms. For the powder of the dried plant, the Ayurvedic texts recommend a dosage of 3 to 6 grams to accelerate fracture healing. Safety studies in rats showed no toxic effects at dosages as high as 2000 mg/kg of body weight. So not only is Cissus efficacious, it is also quite safe, in either the dried powder form or the commercially available extract.

Cissus also possess analgesic properties on a mg per mg basis comparable to aspirin or anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen. Cissus quadrangularis constitutes one of the ingredients of an Ayurvedic preparation, `Laksha Gogglu', which has been proved to be highly effective in relieving pain, reduction of swelling and promoting the process of healing of the simple fractures as well as in curing the allied disorders associated with fractures (7). The mechanism through which Cissus exerts its analgesic and anti-inflammatory properties has not been well characterized. It may act centrally, but the anti-inflammatory features suggest that it acts by preventing the conversion of arachidonic acid to inflammatory prostaglandins.


1) Chopra SS, Patel MR, Awadhiya RP. Studies of Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair : a histopathological study Indian J Med Res. 1976 Sep;64(9):1365-8

2) Chopra SS, Patel MR, Gupta LP, Datta IC. Studies on Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: effect on chemical parameters in blood Indian J Med Res. 1975 Jun;63(6):824-8.

3) PRASAD GC, UDUPA KN. EFFECT OF CISSUS QUADRANGULARIS ON THE HEALING OF CORTISONE TREATED FRACTURES. Indian J Med Res. 1963 Jul;51:667-76.

4) Shirwaikar A, Khan S, Malini S. Antiosteoporotic effect of ethanol extract of Cissus quadrangularis Linn. on ovariectomized rat. J Ethnopharmacol. 2003 Dec;89(2-3):245-50.

5) Combaret L, Taillandier D, Dardevet D, Bechet D, Ralliere C, Claustre A, Grizard J, Attaix D Glucocorticoids regulate mRNA levels for subunits of the 19 S regulatory complex of the 26 S proteasome in fast-twitch skeletal muscles. Biochem J. 2004 Feb 15;378(Pt 1):239-46.

6) Chidambara Murthy KN, Vanitha A, Mahadeva Swamy M, Ravishankar GA. Antioxidant and antimicrobial activity of Cissus quadrangularis L. J Med Food. 2003 Summer;6(2):99-105.

7) Panda, J Res Ayurv Siddha, 1990, 11, 7








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flyonthewall
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2005/06/06, 03:41 PM
Would you recommend this to an average wt training individual, or is it really for the serious body builders. The product kind of intrigues me because I'd love a little "help" reducing my BF while still building some muscle, but also am interesting in the fact that it aids in pain supressing. I have tendonitis in my shoulder and my knees bother me sometimes, even though my form is good. I've read that it is OK for women to use, but just want to see what your opinion on this product for the average female. Would it have the same kind of effect, visually, that Creatine does or is it's benifit primarily fat loss while maintaining muscle. I'm not sure whether it is even available in Canada, I did a search, but couldn't find it here.

Thanks!

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bb1fit
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2005/06/07, 08:48 AM
I would recommend this to anyone who is "serious" about changing their body composition. By this I mean not so much the hard core bodybuilder, (it surely is good for them though :big_smile:), but you sound like an ideal candidate. If I were you, I would use a bottle of cAMP and a bottle of Cissus. You would use 2 cAMP with 3 Cissus. The cAMP contains cissus, but the extra cissus is ideal with the pain. This is how I approached it, have tendonitis in my left shoulder, and wonderful resutlts. The nice thing is these bottles are really "full", to the top. I am not one to "push" any companies products, but if I find something that truly works, I pass it on because these days it is so rare to find someone not just after your money.

If you go to the site I listed, they have an email address. You can email cesom directly, and you will get a quick response and I am sure they will ship to Canada.

As far as the "effect visually" that creatine does, not sure what you mean. It will not bloat in any way if that is your concern. Have a cup of coffee with it or even some green tea, and watch the results.

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bb1fit
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2005/06/07, 08:51 AM
By the way, this is from the company...and it pertains directly to my above post....

Hormone Sensitive Lipase, (HSL) mobilizes fatty acids so they can leave the adipocyte and travel to other parts of the body to be used as fuel. Recall cAMPHibolic is that part of this signaling cascade by activating cyclic AMP, or cAMP. The caffeine acts as a so-called phosphodiesterase inhibitor, prolonging the action of cAMP and amplifying the action of HSL.

We contemplating adding caffiene but decided to produce the first Night time formula and many try to avoid caffiene hence caffiene was not added. Caffiene is cheap addition found at any grocery store, nutrition store or drink a cup of Joe(man joe sounds so yuppy, Am i that old)...coffee for the young.


Green tea does have a small amount of caffiene that contributes but look to add around 50-200mg of caffiene...start low end high or start low and stay low it all comes down to personal preference.


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flyonthewall
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2005/06/07, 09:32 AM
Thanks for the feedback, I'll definetly look into it. It would be so cool to have this stupid shoulder pain go away, it certainly is limiting my lifting potential and I wouldn't mind the added benifit of BF reduction:big_smile:

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bb1fit
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2005/06/07, 10:24 AM
Be looking for a writeup I am going to post maybe tomorrow on the benefits of Cissus for injury. This will be backed with research.

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sidz
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2005/06/07, 05:50 PM
any idea if this product is sold in the uk? i did a google for it but ccouldnt find any uk based shops

thanks
sidz
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2005/06/07, 06:32 PM
update : just ordered from here http://www.nutraplanet.com/product_info.php?products_id=597
was $44 with delivery (4-10days) for 170 capsules, will be interesting to see how i fare seeing as ive always had real trouble losing fat no matter how much i try with diet/exercise ,ive alwasy been dubious when i see supplements like these advertised (although i know v little about such things) although i try to improve my fitness all i can im not in the league of most the people i see posting on these boards so ill let u know how i get on

thanks again for this site , its awesome
bb1fit
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2005/06/08, 10:47 AM
I truly believe this is one product(for a nice change) you will not adding to your list of stuff you wasted money on in the past. Stay with the doseage, it works better with the buildup....it gets stronger as you use it instead of the other way around and works for a little bit and then wears off.

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update : just ordered from here http://www.nutraplanet.com/product_info.php?products_id=597
was $44 with delivery (4-10days) for 170 capsules, will be interesting to see how i fare seeing as ive always had real trouble losing fat no matter how much i try with diet/exercise ,ive alwasy been dubious when i see supplements like these advertised (although i know v little about such things) although i try to improve my fitness all i can im not in the league of most the people i see posting on these boards so ill let u know how i get on

thanks again for this site , its awesome
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2005/06/14, 01:11 PM
If you have any questions, Please do not hesitate to contact us at ceosm@synergymuscle.com.

thank you!
sidz
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2005/06/15, 07:16 AM
just received my bottle today, the label says 2 in the morning and 2 4 hours later with a thrird voluntary dose of 2 , for somebody who isnt doing a large mount of weight training (about 45mins/1hr 5 times a week plus cardio in morning of around 30 mins) would you recommend all 3 doses or should i stick with 2?
bb1fit
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2005/06/15, 11:32 AM
I would begin with 2 doses, this is what I did. Up to 3 as you progress if needed.

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2005/06/16, 01:33 AM
Alright I am thinking about trying out both of the products but the only thing I am worried about is that I wake up and within about 30 minutes I am already working out, how would that effect the products and when i would take that at? lemme know what you think... I should be ordering them this weekend, and should I try out the cissus too or just the fat burning one? Or should i try out that Hot Rox stuff thats always on the banner on this website?:(

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bb1fit
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2005/06/16, 10:07 AM
Cissus is an ideal partner for cAMP, especially if you have any nagging injuries of any type. If you read about 9-10 posts up in this threadd, it is about caffine and cAMP, how it amplifies the benefits. I would suggest taking the cAMP first thing with a cup of coffee or at the very least a cup of green tea. This should be plenty to kick in the benefits even more.

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NickListar
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2005/07/01, 07:50 AM
I am a little bit lost. Is cAMPHIBOLIC good for someone just starting trying to lose weight and muscle gain? Do you use Cissus with it? I am sorry for these Q I am just starting out.:big_smile:
borpillicus
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2005/07/01, 08:05 AM
Both of these supplements have really peaked my interest. I am not doing competitions or anything, but I have been struggling with stubborn Ab fat for as long as I can remember. Could this stuff be the edge I need to burn away that cursed spare tire?

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bb1fit
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2005/07/01, 07:32 PM
This is by far the best "fat loss" promoting product I have run across. The well being feelings I am mentioning are a pleasant side effect.

Give it time, let it load in your system, you will see a difference.

Of course, you still can't eat anything you want all the time, quality diet is important...but you will be happy with this product.

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borpillicus
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2005/07/02, 03:48 PM
Okay, I am sold. I am going to try a bottle of this stuff to see if it will help me finally break through some serious plateaus I have been on for months. I am currently eating for bulk, should I switch down to cutting or do you think maintenance calories would work better?
bb1fit
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2005/07/02, 05:21 PM
If you are wanting to LOSE fat, then enhancing diet for this would be the way to go. If howevery you want to bulk, you will notice increased recovery, strength and stamina. I have been doing this, and my veins are really popping, and it is great. Staying leaner with increased calories. But, remember, I just came off contest shape, so this may be different. If you have fat on you you don't like, I can forsee with bulk calories using cAMP helping to hold more fat at bay while increasing as noted above.

Hell, to me the feeling of well being is priceless, most folks stress about tons of stuff, this stuff works in that way also. Puts you on top of your game so to speak...this has indeed become a product for just that reason I may always use! The alertness, awarness, mellowness is very appealing.

Geez, I hope I don't sound like a salesman or anything, I should mention I have no stock in the company, do not sit on the board, etc! :big_smile: This is for real stuff though in many ways, and I believe it will be a staple of my supplement regimine. (things I use all the time)

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bropie
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2005/07/02, 06:40 PM
i think im going to give this a shot.. i'm just looking to get rid of the stubborn pudge around the midsection, and even with a clean diet, am finding it hard. i've tried hydroxycut in the past, but found it gave me the jitters badly, and made me edgy (also made my eye twitch a little :))

as for the doses, if i work out early in the am, i should take it before the workout or after? and i guess if i work out in the afternoon, i would take the first dose with breaky.. and the 2nd before workout?
bb1fit
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2005/07/02, 06:49 PM
I would suggest the first dose be first thing in the morning, upon rising. After that, equal spacing in my opinion is all that seems to be important.

I will say I try to time a dose for pre workout if I can, but if it is too early timewise, then I don't, and take the next dose as close to an empty stomach as possible. Of course, if you are bulking, when do you have an empty stomach? :laugh: I do however suggest a cup of coffee or thereabouts in caffine content with it, optimization is apparent if you read the writeup.

If not, check this out....

Hormone Sensitive Lipase, (HSL) mobilizes fatty acids so they can leave the adipocyte and travel to other parts of the body to be used as fuel. Recall cAMPHibolic is that part of this signaling cascade by activating cyclic AMP, or cAMP. The caffeine acts as a so-called phosphodiesterase inhibitor, prolonging the action of cAMP and amplifying the action of HSL.

We contemplating adding caffiene but decided to produce the first Night time formula and many try to avoid caffiene hence caffiene was not added. Caffiene is cheap addition found at any grocery store, nutrition store or drink a cup of Joe(man joe sounds so yuppy, Am i that old)...coffee for the young.


Green tea does have a small amount of caffiene that contributes but look to add around 50-200mg of caffiene...start low end high or start low and stay low it all comes down to personal preference.



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sidz
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2005/07/02, 07:25 PM
must admit i thought bb1 had bought shares in the company when i 1st saw him post about this product :) ive been taking 4 per day for the last couple of weeks and i have to say im more than happy with the results, although my little lame digital body fat metre thingy says i havnt lost any fat my mirror begs to differ :) ive also been in a good mood since i started taking this funny as it sounds, other positive effects include an elevated sex drive which as far as i knew wasnt low before :) im near enough certain that all the positive effects ive had arnt psychosymatic and i can heartily recommend this suppliment
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2005/07/02, 07:28 PM
to add , the easiest way i can describe the results ive had is that im 35 now but i feel like i did when im 25 or so(and no i havnt been drinking :) )
borpillicus
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2005/07/02, 07:37 PM
You mentioned the enhancing diet. Is that a specific diet that you do with this supplement?
bb1fit
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2005/07/02, 08:37 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about the libido thing :)

And to borpillicus....by enhancing the diet, I meant creating a diet conducive to fat burning....i.e...a caloric deficit.

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sidz
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2005/07/27, 04:15 AM
bb1 youve mentioned a new version of camp thats due out soon, do you know if itll be within the next week or two as im due to reorder and with the delivery costs to the uk id rather buy a few bottles at once and didnt want to order the original if a new improved mix was incoming.
thanks
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2005/07/27, 11:13 AM
I was informed it will be out maybe this coming week. I will check for sure, but I know it is very soon.

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sidz
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2005/08/03, 07:11 AM
i got a reply to an email i sent saying itll be about 2 weeks , bad timing for me as i ran out and want to buy a few bottles this time to save on delivery costs to uk, im gonna wait till camp 2 comes out as itll give me a clear idea how i feel when not taking camp in comparison. Up to now its been great and im very happy with the overall results of using it.
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2005/08/03, 11:14 AM
I have stopped it right now myself, and in a matter of probably 2 weeks tops, I noticed a dropoff in strength for sure. This struck me as odd, as I did not affiliate the strength gain with cAMP. There definitely is a difference, and with attitude! :)

This really is one supplement I would honestly give my hearty approval to. It really does work.

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froshman
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2005/08/03, 03:11 PM
1. Is it true the cAMP stuff can aid in building lean muscle while burning fat? I was on a cutting phase, but if I can take this stuff and build more muscle while burning fat, I'll just do that.

2. How many people have died on this stuff? I mean, how dangerous is it?

3. Is it better for fat burning than Keto-7?
sidz
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2005/08/04, 11:41 AM
bb1 i have to agree with you i have way less energy this week i certainly lost the spring in my step, do you know what they are changing with camp version 2 ?
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2005/08/04, 11:54 AM
47 at last count..... :):big_smile::laugh:

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borpillicus
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2005/08/06, 06:17 AM
Mine just arrived.

I got a question about taking it though. I can't really take it 30 minutes before breakfast because when I get up I am usually pressed enough for time that I don't want to wait to eat (that and I am starving). Would it be okay to take it a couple hours after breakfast and then four hours later before going to the gym (and probably 30 minutes before dinner)? Or should I just take it first thing in the morning anyways?

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2005/08/06, 08:04 PM
I would just take if first thing in the morning anyway, and then at your next scheduled time. The more often you can take it on an empty stomach the better, but don't sweat it too much. Just take it. Before training, whether weights or cardio is a great time.

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2005/08/08, 01:38 AM
so your saying 47 people have died on this stuff? is that correct? bb1fit?
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2005/08/08, 11:44 AM
Yeah, but who's counting? :big_smile: :laugh:It was just a joke in response to a silly question....no one has died from this stuff!

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so your saying 47 people have died on this stuff? is that correct? bb1fit?
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bb1fit@freetrainers.com
2005/08/08, 12:08 PM
whew! i was considering buying some, but then i read that,

but hey now i will buy alot of it and see just hoe effective it really is?

thanks.
2005/08/09, 02:27 AM
bbifit:

what about carbolin 19 with cissus combo? same effects of cAMP w/ cissus?
bb1fit
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2005/08/09, 10:58 AM
I have never used it...but at $119.00 per bottle, fairly expensive, no? I am always skeptical when they start comparing any compound to things like Anavar. Be careful, you may get burned here. This purchase is totally in your court, I am not recommending it in any way. :) good luck on your choice and let us know if you do do it.

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bb1fit@freetrainers.com
2005/08/09, 10:28 PM
cool thanks bb1fit, i just ordered the camp and cissus rx, can't wait to start them up.
bb1fit
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2005/08/11, 08:45 AM
This is from the CEO of USP labs.....

C2 is a uniquely designed blend of compounds designed to increase fat burning, improve athletic performance, enhance cognitive functioning,promote anabolism of muscle tissue, increase well being, and improve overall health Too much to ask for in any one supplement? Many supplement claim but C2 will producec all these effects.

USPlabs has gone beyond the call of duty of this product. We created a supplement with a synergist effect on fat loss while creating an physiological enviroment to do more work without overtraining. Hence, you train longer, harder and recovery faster while dieting to excelerate fat loss OR train longer, harder and recover faster on a bulk or just regular training. A supplement designed to Phycologicaly increase mood WHILE DIETING. With all other "weight loss" supplements only focus on fat loss.

C2 is for everyone and not just the DIETER wanting to lose fat. C2 is for those who want mental clairty, controled energy(not crazy jittering energry, this energy can be applied to devestate the weight room or Impress at work), More musle, Less fat, and the ability to do more work.

This formula will soon be copied. Most supplement companies skim on their formulas because of marketing cost. USPlabs has a low marketing cost so Our formulas are stacked with active ingredients.

Visit synergymuscle.com for the C2 PRESALE!!!! ONLY kidding GUYS no PreSALE ever again.lol

C2 will first be Available to Previous customers and I gurantee that the first batch will sell out in the first week of Sales. If you're on our customer list by the Time C2 is released, you will have the opportunity to purchase. I estimate C2 will be released in 10-15 days.


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sidz
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2005/08/11, 11:11 AM
doh :( i bought my camp from nutraplanet because synergy didnt list uk as a place they could deliver to. i ran out just over a week or so and im really missing camp. i was holdin out for camp2 so now i guess itll be a while before im in receipt of it seeing as im not on the customer list. i been drinkin about 10 gallons of coffee a day since i stopped takin camp to keep my energy up :) (thats an exageration before anyone posts telling me 10 gallons a day is a bit on the excessive side :) ) its a shame these products arnt stocked in the uk
froshman
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2005/08/12, 06:23 PM
I know no one has died. That was just an exaggerrated way of asking about its safety. I'm cautious about miracle drugs because I remember when everyone swore ephedra was god-sent... and that did kill people... same for DHEA.

But you've sold me, BB1. Can I buy cAmp from a store or does it have to be ordered online? And if it does, I bought 7-keto from a place you recommended, where should I buy cAmp?
2005/08/12, 09:11 PM
froshman, synergymuscle.com/ AND THEY UPPED THE PRICE! i bought the 4 get 1 free, on the 8th and 2 bottles of cissus and it cost $154, now it will run about 188 for the same things i bought. but in a few days they should have the new stuff out.
sidz
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2005/08/13, 07:07 AM
wow thats really ruined my day they put the price of camp up by 1/3 in one fell swoop :( they didnt advertise it as being on sale when it was $22 i presume when camp 2 comes out it will be even more expensive so i think my days of taking camp are over now :( dont know if such price hikes are common in the world of supplements but im very dissapointed with synergy ,if they had warned us of the massive price increase i wouldve ordered bulk while it was 22 bucks
froshman
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2005/08/13, 05:22 PM
1- If they upped the price is there anywhere else to get it?

2- Ive heard about the new stuff, but don't know much about it. What's the difference?
bb1fit
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2005/08/13, 08:15 PM
Have not checked out the prices and really do not konw much about what the difference is at this point. Will be in touch and find out the answer to both.

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arondaballer
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2005/08/15, 01:21 PM
I gotta try both of these man. I have an absolutely NAGGING achilles tendon that has been injured multiple times. And I specialize in training for jumping and speed since I play bball, so this of course sucks majorly. I think the cAMP's results on my body fat couldn't hurt either. Thanks BB1.

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