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2003/06/23, 12:38 AM
I was wandering, I am doing alot of cardio and weights for weight loss, I was wondering after dinner I usually eat something small which usually consist of fruit, is this the right thing to do because of the sugar and if so should I eat fruit earlier in the day and maybe a protein shake at night.
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2003/06/23, 02:28 PM
I just read on another post that fruit at night is not a good thing. And you are right that it should be eaten in the early part of your day. I see that some people eat cottage cheese as their last snack of the day. It seems that protein is the choice for that, but I am not sure about a shake. Hopefully someone else will answer this one too.
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~Victoria~
...Some things have to be believed to be seen!
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2003/06/24, 01:48 AM
Yes second solution, grap a protein shake before bed time so your muscles will have all the needed amino acids during the night.
Here's something I read last night:
By Harvey Diamond:
Eat fruit correctly - alone - or before anything else.
Fruit is to be eaten alone. Alone fruit turns into energy faster than any other food because it is the only food that does not require digestive energy. It should be eaten before other anything else. It should not be eaten with anything else, or after a meal. When eaten alone fruit tends to be alkaline when it enters you stomach. However, when fruit is combined with wheat, meat, dairy or vegetables it turns to acid in your stomach. As a result, it doesn't get digested and instead ferments producing alcohol, which in turn promotes a build up of toxins over time, and is one of the primary causes of diseases such as cancer.
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- Nina :o) Les Victoires éternelles sont celles du coeur.
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2003/06/24, 11:11 PM
thank you both that answered my question, I kinda thought it was not a good thing but wanted to get some other opinions
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2003/06/25, 04:52 PM
Does that mean that you shouldn't put fruit in your protein shakes? I've been having an apple with my tuna every day, is that a no-no too?
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~Victoria~
...There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.--Beverly Sills
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2003/06/25, 08:28 PM
Hmmm apple and tuna protein shake? Yech! I'm never dining at your place! ;)
Fruit is a carb, and if you are trying to lean out carbs are not helpful late at night because the sugar won't be used for energy. Stick to the protein.
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You can walk to anywhere you want, it only takes time.
Ivan Montreal Canada (aka SpongeBob Square Pants to some!)
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2003/06/25, 11:33 PM
Fructose in itself tops off liver glycogen, when it is full the rest can basically become fat. Now, some fruits actually have a thermogenic quality to them, and an apple is one of them. The tuna and apple is great on a diet, just do not have complex carbs with it. Bananas for instance would be a bad choice. They are first off very calorie dense, and fructose laden. They have no thermogenic quality(actually may take calories to digest it)As a stand alone meal in midday for instance, the tuna and apple are fine. Other good fruits are blueberries, strawberries, and peaches. Still, keep these earlier in the day and do not mix with carbs.
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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.
Ron
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2003/06/26, 01:26 PM
Yikes carivan, it does sound like that is what I meant...lol. I have been putting fruit (banana/strawberries) in my protein shakes and now I see that I should drop the banana, but still don't know if fruit with protein is ok. If the shake is low in carbs, is it ok? The tuna and apple is my mid-morning meal...by it's self, not in a shake, and I see that it is ok. Every time I think I've just about got it figured out.....
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~Victoria~
...There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.--Beverly Sills
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2003/06/28, 07:09 PM
Taking daily vitamins and uping the H20 will also help you rid the body of those toxins and free radicals...As for fruit at night...that's a no no...no carbs after 9:00 good, no carbs after 7 better, no carbs after 6 superb.
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Diet- Only take what you need...There is no fine line between want and need, there is the whole continent of South America.~Dick
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2003/06/28, 11:18 PM
at what time is to late to eat ....i read that you should stop at 8 another one said 6 pm i usually get to bed no earlier then 12am????????
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2003/06/29, 12:06 AM
I would say have your last meal(minus to many carbs) at 8. Then have a protein shake right before you hit the sack. Say you get up at 8.
8- Have balanced breakfast, lots of proteins and complex carbs as well as vitamins.
10-Have a balanced snack...Protein shake, fruit or vege
12-Have a balanced lunch
2:30-Have a small snack
5-balanced dinner
7:30/8:00- Have a small snack, Tuna, peanuts, cottage cheese, cheese
12-Protein Shake
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Diet- Only take what you need...There is no fine line between want and need, there is the whole continent of South America.~Dick
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2003/06/29, 12:42 AM
This is a basic rule of thumb to follow. During breakfast and lunch you can have starchier carbs because your insulin sensitivity is higher and your body will not have to secrete as much insulin. These carbs will all be extremely fibrous and slow burning, like brown rice, beans, sweet potatoes, etc. The only time you want any simple carbs is during your post workout meal, which will be just enough to suppress cortisol while your insulin sensitivity is high. The rest of the day will be essentially carbless, with the exception fibrous greens. Add EFA's here. Before bed, a slow digesting protein source is good, a caseain source. Cottage cheese for example is great. They gel in the stomach when digesting, thus release a steady stream of amino acids slowly. The body does not need carbs at night. Have some EFA's here with some fiber.
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As far as genetics go, the skies the limit. You are limited only by your mental perception of it.
Ron
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