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'functional' training taken too far

	2005/06/02, 12:39 AM just thought u guys might get a good laugh from this one....another person on deepsquatter.com posted it and I thought it was pretty funny.... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=202796
RandomGirl Posts: 227 Joined: 2005/02/25	2005/06/02, 01:32 AM whoa...that there is a good example of what you can expect the next Maximum Exposure episodes to be about...
dvelswk Posts: 192 Joined: 2005/05/07	2005/06/02, 01:06 PM That is a good example of how to have 135 lbs crushing you and your spotter when you fall lol. However, if he was able to finish the lift that is very impressive, lol I don't think I would have the balance to stand on the ball period.
nikkilind Posts: 100 Joined: 2005/02/11	2005/06/02, 01:54 PM ...wow... scary~! -------------- The greatest good you can do for another is not just to share your riches but to reveal to him his own. - Benjamin Disraeli
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/02, 05:14 PM I think i'd bust it -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
	2005/06/02, 09:17 PM LOL. I checked out a new gym last week, and they were showing me some exercises that weren't much different than that picture. The owner is a competitive strongman....those guys are crazy. :)
wrestler125 Posts: 4,619 Joined: 2004/01/27	2005/06/03, 09:30 AM I think the best part of that is the spotter fooling himself into thinking that if that guy falls, he'll be able to catch him. -------------- The best feeling in the world is the feeling you get after a tough set of squats after you step back from the power rack and throw up all over the floor.
DeadOnArrival Posts: 95 Joined: 2005/05/22	2005/06/03, 05:42 PM I do them without the barbell. I cant get up there with weights...except for some very light dumbbells. I wouldn't get clients to do what he's doing. Too much at risk.
	2005/06/03, 08:59 PM as opposed to? your clients can just as easily tweak/break/sprain a knee/ankle/hip ...etc...it's a joke of an exercise.....who in their right mind would do that?
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/03, 09:28 PM surfer, skatboarder, skier? -------------- " The only true eye, is your minds eye"- plato
DeadOnArrival Posts: 95 Joined: 2005/05/22	2005/06/04, 09:40 PM bigandrew Spot on. These sports involve equilibrium and righting/tilting reflexes so to train up on the ball would seem to have some benefit. I have one client who does squats on the ball. He's a volleyball player. Not that it has much use for him as a volleyball player, but he insisted on it. We don't use any weight though. Once you've done it a few times you realise how easy it is and the danger factor is seriously reduced. Some would say that lifting 700lbs over your chest is dangerous too. Danger makes it more fun:)
	2005/06/06, 02:35 AM I think Bosu boards are much better choice for that...they won't be surfing, sking, or skateboarding long by doing that...lol...too each his own however...
bigandrew Posts: 5,146 Joined: 2002/10/21	2005/06/06, 07:30 PM I wouldn't do it......maybe for the 150lbs guy on the ball it does somthing for.......my 260lb ass staying on the floore. -------------- gravity is not a law, only a obstacle
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2005/06/07, 05:56 PM I can see squatting on a ball for stability. But, if you want to develop power you need to work on a stable surface. THIS is what is in the research. Training on an unstable surface does not enhance power production. I'll get the link to the article soon.
DeadOnArrival Posts: 95 Joined: 2005/05/22	2005/06/07, 07:03 PM I would never do them instead of regular squats. I sometimes use them as a warm up before real squats.
asimmer Posts: 8,201 Joined: 2003/01/07	2005/06/10, 12:23 PM I used to do cable crossovers while kneeling on the ball - it added an element of core training and hip stability. i know people who can stand on and squat on the ball, many people feel it is usefull for stabilizer muscles. Paul Chek does a lot of crazy things on the ball. i think these movements are more useful for 'athletes' and sport specific training as opposed to the average client. -------------- Vitality shows not only in the ability to persist but the ability to start over. - F. Scott Fitzgerald
gatormade Posts: 1,355 Joined: 2003/10/01	2005/06/10, 01:00 PM Why is a physioball squat more sport specific when sports are played on a hard, stable surface? Force development is a primary concern in athletics. So is absorping force. Unstable environments are not effective in developing these two concepts. Check www.nsca-lift.org Search for the article there. I agree that is very useful for recruiting stabilizers. Those stabilizers are important to athletic performance. But I don't think that squatting on a ball should be the primary focus of a workout. It looks great and it is very tough to do. But, to develop power you need to squat with weight that is heavier than what you can hold when on a ball or you need to move a lighter weight faster than you can when on a ball.