I would start out as small as possible with this stuff. When i say small i mean lower potency (not injecting) Right now i am taking Alpha Dopa Growth Poppers form pinnacle and also EcDyBol from them also. it seems to be working well. Instead of taking a secretagouge (spelling?) full of the growth hormone, this helps the brain secrete more. It is working for me.Another one that is supposed to be good is GroTropin. But like all of these, be carefull. stop use for two weeks every four weeks. And of course be aware and stop using any hGH product if your nipples start ti itch.(if you dont you can get what we call a free boob job you dont want!) ive been on it for a few nmonths and it is great! I wrote an article on hGH a month ago in this section, look for it a few pages back! -snow