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hard-gainer...

nelsonjohn
nelsonjohn
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Joined: 2005/01/10
Canada
2005/04/14, 01:35 PM
I read that using a weight that's only
enough to allow you to reach muscular failure at your target reps with the
strictest of form is the way to go for anyone trying to add some muscle...but then I read that the hard gainer has to lift heavy all the time to make gains. I keep reading about forced reps, negatives and partials...are these all for the more hardcore types, or should I be thinking more along these lines?
rpacheco
rpacheco
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2005/04/14, 02:08 PM
Unfortunately, there's no 1 rule that will work for all hardgainers...you will have to find a program that will work for you.

I too am a hardgainer and it was a combination of workout routines (including some that I developed myself) that helped me gain. Also, don't forget that diet has a lot to do with it!

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nelsonjohn
nelsonjohn
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Canada
2005/04/14, 02:36 PM
I've seen some progress the last 4 months trying hard to keep good form, and I'm happy..just not sure if maybe I'm missing out on something. Thanks for your reply.

bb1fit
bb1fit
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United States
2005/04/14, 07:47 PM
The "hard gainer" is someone who does not have their diet in order to meet their needs.

Anyone who is working out in any quality program can gain. If they are not, it is most assuredly inadequate diet.

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nelsonjohn
nelsonjohn
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Canada
2005/04/14, 10:36 PM
Just so you know BB1..I'm 6' 5"...43 years old, and have been within 8 lbs of my high school weight for 25 years now...regardless of diet. I have excersised regularly...not at all...smoked..drank way too excessively, given it all up at one point or another, and now tried very hard at gaining for 4 months now. You may think you know it all about everything around here... but I think you need to realise that not everyone is like you..or wants to be.
thedominator
thedominator
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United Kingdom
2005/04/15, 08:28 AM
nelsonjohn.. bb1fit always hits the nail on the head.. post what u eat normally during the day here and people will look into it for u.. it might give u better chance of gaining...

and yeah.. bb1fit might know it all :).. and he is always there to help.. u shud try to read his profile b4 getting touchy :)


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bropie
bropie
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Canada
2005/04/15, 10:49 AM
hes just laying down the basics behind why you're not gaining weight according to science nelson. he is in no way criticizing you or your motives.. everyone is different remember, maybe you have an incredible metabolism that keeps you at your size. like dom said, post your stats, and we all can assess it to help you
bb1fit
bb1fit
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2005/04/15, 08:55 PM
Well, you can look around for someone to give you another answer, but in the end unfortunately you will find out I am right. Sorry, not trying to be a know it all, but it is a fact. More calories will add weight. You need to be above maintenance. Think about it, appararantley from your post this is where you are. You state you have been exercising and trying to gain hard for 4 months now. This is the tipopff....with your current energy expenditure included, if you are staying the same, your calorie intake is not high enough. Don't be so touchy, learn to accept advice. More exercise is not the answer. Proper increased caloric intake however is. :big_smile:

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Just so you know BB1..I'm 6' 5"...43 years old, and have been within 8 lbs of my high school weight for 25 years now...regardless of diet. I have excersised regularly...not at all...smoked..drank way too excessively, given it all up at one point or another, and now tried very hard at gaining for 4 months now. You may think you know it all about everything around here... but I think you need to realise that not everyone is like you..or wants to be.
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maxcdc
maxcdc
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Joined: 2005/02/26
Belgium
2005/04/16, 09:11 PM
mmmh well... for some people it may be harder to gain weight... Like if you have a fast metabilism... At least for me it s hard and i think i eat right :). I don t think everybody has the same potentiel in bodybuilding... so i guess it may be harder for some
dacapo85
dacapo85
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Joined: 2005/03/29
United States
2005/04/28, 05:50 PM
Hey, bb1 is SO correct right there! Seriously. A month and a half ago I was 5'6 at 99lbs andI ate and ate and ate and still nothing... I ate just as everyone else around me did and didn't notice one difference... BUT! What I did is I went to Vitamin Shoppe and boughtsome whey with GRAND amt of calories. I started intaking about 3-4000 calories a day and using FT routines set just for me. Now I weigh 114 and have much broader shoulders, thicker arms, etc... all that jazz. Definitely some ppl's metabolisms work differently than normal. Calories are definitely your answer along with proper workout technique. I most certainly recommend FT's routines. It helped me and continues to help me. :-) It's nice to have to go shop for new clothes. :-D
timmstar
timmstar
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Australia
2005/04/29, 02:04 AM
bb1 only does it for a living.. but what would he know.... :surprised: