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sirks001 Posts: 61 Joined: 2002/05/02	2002/06/10, 12:30 AM Hey everyone- I just had two rest days in a row which ft had set up for me. I was feeling real pumped and saw some good gains. For some reason I feel like two rest days in a row is too much, because right now I feel like my arms are back to normal and that I can only see something if I really flex my arms. Is this feeling normal? I'm in my 3rd week and have been working out intensely but at the same time not overworking my muscles. Anyone else ever feel like this? ---------------------------- †--SiRkS--†
fireloard Posts: 665 Joined: 2001/03/27	2002/06/10, 12:50 AM I shift my workout schedule around so that I can have 2 rest days in a row sometimes.. and sometimes I feel like that too.. but your arm/whatever else will pump back up to what it was on your workout for that muscle group on the next week... its nothing to worry about it.. your not losing anything (at least I don't think so?...?)
sirks001 Posts: 61 Joined: 2002/05/02	2002/06/10, 01:04 AM Okay cool, I'm guessing I just need more patience. Thx fire! -------------- †--SiRkS--†
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/10, 01:21 AM Shouldn't lose anything that quick. Also Sirks being that you are kinda ramping up right now two rest days will probably really be needed. I've been working for four months now and by the end of the week, I NEED those two days. One thing you might be able to do is an exercise or two more on the last workout before the break. Really work yourself, then the rest will be more appreciated. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
sirks001 Posts: 61 Joined: 2002/05/02	2002/06/10, 10:33 AM Advice well taken Cain. I'm gonna do just that, add some more excercises before the break. -------------- †--SiRkS--†
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/10, 10:51 AM It also depends on your training split. If you have a 4-day split, it's not uncommon to get 2 days rest in a row. Remember, you don't grow muscles by working out, you grow them when you rest! -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
qualters Posts: 343 Joined: 2002/04/21	2002/06/10, 12:48 PM So true, you grow outside the gym. -------------- BQ AMERICAN MADE
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/10, 01:52 PM Oh to be young again. At 31, I can hardly make it through a week. My a** is kicked! -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/10, 02:21 PM Trust me, even at 23 the week can be hard. Or maybe I'm just lazy.. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
mikencharleston Posts: 1,585 Joined: 2002/01/09	2002/06/10, 02:27 PM LOL Wait till you hit 53 Cain
qualters Posts: 343 Joined: 2002/04/21	2002/06/10, 02:29 PM Wait till you hit 24 Cainsands! Forget about it! -------------- BQ AMERICAN MADE
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/10, 02:33 PM LOL!! Hey I have much respect for folks like you Mike. I can only hope that at your age I still have the drive to it. Well that and the joints to do it... -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/10, 03:16 PM And a wife, and kids, and grand kids, who will let you. Finding time (to work out, cook, rest), for me, is often just as hard. -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/10, 03:39 PM Well, I don't think I'll ever do kids. Some people just aren't meant for them. I can live vicariously through my sisters kid. Trust me, anyone that knows me, professes that I will be a cranky old man living all by myself in a huge house in the middle of no where, with nothing but books. So I should have plenty of time to workout! -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/10, 03:47 PM Yes, I know some people who either don't want them, or should have theirs taken away. I can understand that. I need a breather from time to time myslef. I am NOT a 24-7, eat-sleep-breath, take my kid everywhere with me, type Dad. I know my limits and when I am about to pop. I commend my wife, she is the real tropper, I need a TON of private time. -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/10, 04:20 PM See, me too. I am a very private person. I go through girlfriends pretty rapidly.... -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/10, 04:26 PM I remember those days.... Yep, me too. Well, if you are really serious, I mean, looking for someone, you'll find her. I did, so have faith. That is why I feel so lucky and try REALLY hard to let me wife have the best of me when we hang out, because I know how few women out there would of put up with my sh**! Fortunatley I am wired and cannot sleep until late. My wife is the opposite and goes to bed hours before me. This has really helped.
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/10, 05:32 PM Dude are we related? I finally just gave up. My current gf constantly $^#&@#ed at me for staying up so late after her. So I lay in bed for like an hour now instead. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
jawsqb Posts: 29 Joined: 2002/06/11	2002/06/14, 12:20 AM I think your just getting addicted to working out. We all would love to feel the pump we get from working out all the time, but fact is our muscles need the rest to respond. My rest days usually fall on roughly the same days, but it also depends on how i feel that day. Bottom line is, it's better to over-rest a muscle than not.
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/14, 12:09 PM I tried to lay in bed too. It worked when I was into a good book, but the shows my wife watches, GEEEEZ, it was too much. I felt my sanity slipping away. No, making the most of our family time, has allowed me to do my own thing when she goes to bed. You are still way young Cain, lots of time. Enjoy your FREEDOM! -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/14, 12:23 PM Freedom? Just cause I'm not married doesn't mean I'm free...I wish. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/14, 12:56 PM That is too bad. You should be having the time of your life. No regrets when you tie the knot. Maybe you are content. I was, but I had a Hell of a time before I met my wife. I never took relationships too seriously, I didnt cheat (often), but I had no intention of settling down either. Then my wife blindsided me like a mack truck- I was reduced to putty (very sad, very very sad). Oh well, nostalgia only makes me feel old. -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
Lumina20 Posts: 966 Joined: 2001/10/31	2002/06/14, 07:31 PM That's a nice story ischjli, it actually makes me want to start dating again
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/14, 11:41 PM And why aren't you dating now, Lumina? I guess we all have our priorities in life. What's important is that we all feel content. From there, everything seems to just fall into place... -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
Lumina20 Posts: 966 Joined: 2001/10/31	2002/06/15, 08:12 AM Well, I just got out of a relationship a month and a half ago, and I'd rather concentrate on my training and I'll be going to school full-time in the fall, so I'll be a busy gal.
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/16, 12:21 PM I can come out to Chicago for dinner Lumina. :p -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
Lumina20 Posts: 966 Joined: 2001/10/31	2002/06/16, 05:46 PM Cain, that would be perfect, you live far enough away, plus you have a girlfriend, so I'll only have to make time for you when you're actually in Chicago, which maybe once every six months. =)
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/16, 07:43 PM Cain, I'm going to tell your girlfriend! You're in the doghouse now, buddy! LOL -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/16, 10:19 PM That sounds good to me too Lumina. :) Well Rob, I'm not married for a reason.... Girlfriends come and go, wives take the house... -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
Philia2 Posts: 4,078 Joined: 2001/10/19	2002/06/17, 02:27 AM Wow. Well it's true, it's MY house and it's MY husband as well But then the beautiful women by your side will be YOUR wife as well, and that is just all the happiness you'll need. Cains, don't look at marriage as something negative. (Love and marriage...... goes together like a horse and carriage....... LOL) -------------- - Nina :o) La vie est toujours aussi belle.....
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/17, 10:32 AM Nice, Nina...except in this country, love and marriage ends up in divorce with baggage (LOL)! -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/17, 11:54 AM Wow Rob, that is pretty sad man. I mean, the stats are way up no doubt but I still wouldn't have it any other way. I have two awesome kids, Athyna (6 yrs) and Connell (15 months) and I think of them as part of my marriage to my wife. How I treat her, will reflect in how they in turn treat others and people they are intimate with. I think of them always, and if ever a glimmer of temptation enters my thoughts I just think of my kids... Anyways, as I said above, I wasn't looking, just enjoying myself. I truly believe if you are receptive, you'll find that ONE. Some people don't want to bother. You can't help them. It helps having a lovely partner though, I mean call me shallow but physical attraction is VERY important to me too. My wife is HOT! Best of all she is a great mother. -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/17, 12:28 PM Well, I could debate the philosophy behind beliefs like "true love" and "the one" but I don't want to keep people from spending money on Valentines day. It's nothing more than a control mechanism that people are fed so they feel they have something to look forward to in life. If people knew from a young age that they would be slaves to banks for the most basic needs (house,car,etc) and that would be the bulk of what they may accomplish in their life, we'd have rebellion all the time. People need to believe that there are higher things in life, God, true love, mythical battles between good and evil. Everyone knows that there are only a few species in nature that mate for life. Humans aren't one of them. Just because it's happened doesn't mean that's the way nature intended it. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/17, 12:40 PM Thanks Cain...couldn't have said it better myself. Ischjli, glad you're happy and found that special someone in your life. -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/17, 02:07 PM You guys don't have any sharp objects in your house do you? Just kidding. Well, that being said, I will take the control mechanisms any day fo the week (preferably with lower interest rates). I think Rob said it well earlier, it's about being contented. At least, for me anyways. And, I am not there yet, but I am WORKING on it. -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/17, 02:34 PM "You guys don't have any sharp objects in your house do you?" I'm a fencer; what do you think? hehe Being content is like thinking you have learned all that you can. The moment you stop trying you may as well roll over and die. My opinion is contentment is something that you get when you're laying on your death bed and you see a good life behind you. It's that feeling that lets you give up your life. I'll let you know if I'm content when I'm dying.. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/17, 02:59 PM A pretty fair estimation. However, you can/should never stop learning so....Can contentment ever be reached then? Or do you look back at that moment, on your death bed, and let go because you tried hard? To each their own. I certainly don't want to feel like I am coming up short my entire life either (too many women have told me that already). No, I hope that I feel some measure of contentedness long before I die. I don't think NOT living each day, or a cessation of learning marks the end. I hope not. You have active people, passive people, some folks maybe in the middle. I am a friggin' spaz. I do WAY too much, and I love it that way. I just hope someday, I can stop, and just chill. It seems an impossibility but I can dream. -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/17, 04:17 PM I can safely say that having kids gives you a much more different perspective in life. Everything changed for me when that occurred and I can probably say that I'm happier now than when they were not a part of my life. -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/17, 04:25 PM Alright, I'd just like to point out this all started because I flirted with Lumina. YOU ALL RUINED IT!!! "A pretty fair estimation. However, you can/should never stop learning so....Can contentment ever be reached then?" Parts of it. You will most certainly always be happy with certain aspests of your life. But if you settle into contentment you'll most likely not strive for anything better. But this is not true in all cases. "Or do you look back at that moment, on your death bed, and let go because you tried hard? To each their own." I'm sure there are many reason to let go. However I was only saying that is the point I think true contentment can be acheived. It's fleeting throughout the rest of your life. "I certainly don't want to feel like I am coming up short my entire life either (too many women have told me that already)." No matter how hard we try we will always come up short at times. Accepting our shortcomings is a neccessity most people don't do. Most people in our larger than life society simply compensate, sedate, or berate their failings. "No, I hope that I feel some measure of contentedness long before I die." I feel a measure of contenment every day. If I was you, it'd be in my kids. For me personally I'm content knowing I made it through another day without falling into the many traps of todays society. "I don't think NOT living each day, or a cessation of learning marks the end. I hope not." This is a strange comment to me. Why would you ever hope to live without learning? Or with people that don't learn? "I just hope someday, I can stop, and just chill. It seems an impossibility but I can dream." It's called "death". I think just chilling is an appropriate term. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/17, 04:30 PM Did I mention my obsession with philosophy? -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/17, 04:33 PM Okay, dude...you're getting too "deep" for me! I'm outta here...LOL! -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/17, 04:37 PM LOL! Sheesh, you should see some of the other stuff I get into. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
Lumina20 Posts: 966 Joined: 2001/10/31	2002/06/17, 06:07 PM It's funny the way a topic that began with discussing loss of muscle, has ended up being a philosophical discussion of life.
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/06/17, 06:08 PM That's what you get when you flirt with someone...LOL!!! -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
Lumina20 Posts: 966 Joined: 2001/10/31	2002/06/17, 06:10 PM that's it! i'm swearing off all "friendly" contact with men! =)
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/17, 06:31 PM Heheh please don't on my account. -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
ischjli Posts: 408 Joined: 2002/03/13	2002/06/18, 10:26 AM I enjoy your perspective Cain. I rarely get into discussions like this anymore. I had the opportunity to listen to and discuss some interesting things with folks while bartending a few years back, now in IT, it is extremely mundane. Right on about the kids Rob. I have totally changed (for the better i think) since having them. Lumina, sorry about ruining the vibe and getting Cain 'off-task'. But now we know how to get him going! -------------- Ischjli "Seven days without exercise makes one weak."
rev8ball Posts: 3,081 Joined: 2001/12/27	2002/06/18, 10:30 AM *sheesh* whatta topic. i was wondering why this thread had soooo many enteries to it... -------------- Michael "Trample the weak; hurdle the dead!" "Overkill is barely adequate..."
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/06/18, 01:34 PM Hmmm...it wasn't even hard to get me going either... :) -------------- Practice does NOT make perfect. Perfect practice does.
Dilan Posts: 69 Joined: 2002/06/03	2002/06/18, 02:01 PM Wow!! I feel like I missed out on this post. Lumina...is that a recent pic of you??

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