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2004/01/15, 06:24 PM
Ok, I've been on a pretty steady workout / diet schedule for the past 6 weeks. I am totally hooked on this stuff now :) Im ready to get totally Lean and want to do it in 20 weeks (Thats my current goal). Heres my current daily routine :
05:15 AM - ECA Stack (Hit snooze til it kicks in) (Just untill I get to my target BF around 12%)
06:15 AM - Daily Workout (Either 45 min lifting(Upper or Lower Body) or 20 mins HIIT Cardio) Modified BFL
07:00 AM - 1.5 Cups Oatmeal (Nutrasweet and Cinimon to taste)
07:00 AM - Creatine
09:30 AM - Perfect Isopure (Low Carb) MRP
09:30 AM - ECA Stack (Just untill I get to my target BF around 12%)
09:30 AM - Creatine
12:00 PM - 2 Cups of pulled Turkey Breast (Perhaps a grapefruit if im in the mood)
02:30 PM - Perfect Isopure (Low Carb) MRP
02:30 PM - ECA Stack (Just untill I get to my target BF around 12%)
02:30 PM - Creatine
05:00 PM - 1 Meat(Turkey,Shrip or Chicken), One Carb(brown rice or potato), A veggie (asparagus or peas)
07:30 PM - Perfect Isopure (Low Carb) MRP
09:00 PM - Creatine
My Overall Intake Looks Like This
Cals : 1650 (Just untill I get to my target BF around 12%)
Protein : 220 Grams 57 %
Fat : 30 Grams 8 %
Carbs : 135 Grams 35 %
As you can see my protein intake is well above my carb intake. Is that a bad thing or just uncommon?
Im about 185 now and I still have quite a bit of bodyfat on me (althought I dont know the percentage), I can judge by my apperance.
My workout schedule is as follows.
UB = Upper Body
LB = Lower Body
C = Cardio
MON TUES WED THURS FRI SAT SUN
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UB C LB C UB C LB etc, etc, etc.
It's constant and never changes. its always 3 days off for body groups and cardio on no lifting days.
I always train till muscle exhaustion.
Given what I listed above, can any of you guys give me any relative, constructive or downright "hard love" critisism on my diet / workout routine? Perhaps comments on my supplement intake (Do's and dont's)?
Am I doing anything wrong or detrimental to my "LEAN" goals (Think Brad Pitt from fight club)?
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2004/01/15, 06:49 PM
What is Perfect Isopure and what is it for. Just curious to know.
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It's not what we eat or drink occasionally, but what we consume on a daily basis that determines our ongoing level o health.
formerfatguy.com
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2004/01/15, 06:49 PM
1650 cals is only enough to maintain 135 to 145 lbs the way you are working out. Whats your goal weight? Sounds like you need to eat more.
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Living well is the best revenge.
Charlie
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2004/01/16, 09:11 AM
Im not too concerned with what my goal weight is, it's not an issue to me at all as long as the results I want (Brad Pitt from Fight Club) are obtained.
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Quoting from charlie826:
1650 cals is only enough to maintain 135 to 145 lbs the way you are working out. Whats your goal weight? Sounds like you need to eat more. 5 to 8 % bodyfat with out a lot of bulk, just lean muscle.
Perfect Isopure (Low Carb) is a meal replacement shake that focuses on High Protein (50g) and low carbs (10g). It happens to taste like a vanilla icecream filter through my gym shorts after a hard workout.
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2004/01/16, 01:11 PM
You have to eat enough to get rsults. Your body needs protein for muscles and carbs provide energy.
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It's not what we eat or drink occasionally, but what we consume on a daily basis that determines our ongoing level o health.
formerfatguy.com
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2004/01/16, 02:44 PM
Perfect Isopure is a type of protein shake brand Shavon...really good one too. Clandress... Its not all about losing fat, its about gaining muscle as well. Muscle burns more fat. I understand what your goal is, but building lean muscle with a steady diet is probably going to be more effective in the long-term for you. Anyone can drop weight, but how many of them can keep it off without starving themselves?....not many. It takes time to get lean and stay lean.
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May the lift be with you.
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2004/01/18, 05:54 PM
if u don't have the engery to re build ur muscles after a work out then what ur doing is breaking u down with out being repaired properly.........personally i rather be 5 lbs heaver and fell good and strong than be 5 lbs lighter and see and abb and feel liek shit...........but hey man its ur body but in my opinion that few carbs what ur doing is more devasting to ur body than helping it
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---andrew.......adversity causes some to break, but others to break records!
LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!
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2004/01/18, 10:36 PM
Are you in the loading phase with your creatine? 4 times per day, must be.
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2004/01/19, 10:55 AM
Your goal weight matters. If you don't eat enough that can cause your body to store fat.
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Living well is the best revenge.
Charlie
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2004/01/19, 11:46 AM
I understand that I have to eat in order to keep my blood sugar up enough to trick my body into believing its not in starvation mode. I also understand that my body needs about 2100 calories a day to maintain life (sedentary activity not including my training). But, in order to burn fat, I have to have a deficiency in caloric intake. This is somewhat of a contradiction in terms of a fat guy trying to obtain lean muscle while losing fat.
Perhaps I’m not being clear with my questions, I want to make sure you guys are aware that I know how important it is to eat and I also know that carbs (good carbs from fructose and whole grains) are my primary source of energy. But unused carbs are sugar (one way or another and it will get stored).
Question One: Do carbs play a vital role in repairing muscle tissue during recovery periods?
I don’t mind having a lack of carbs in my system. My "internal drive" alone gives me my energy. I need to know if they are "important" physically to repair and build my muscle. I don’t like the idea of adding extra carbs to my diet if they are not essential during my fat loss period. My long-term goals are fitness but my short term (next 20 weeks) is fat loss and muscle definition.
This is my MAIN question that always goes unanswered or avoided.
Question Two: I eat six times a day as you can see from the original post as well as supplementation with ECA (a metabolic catalyst), Cratine and Isopure (Whey proteins and dozens of vitamins). If I am getting the necessary proteins and "goodies" I need from my meals to stabilize my metabolism and I obtain a constant blood sugar level, why would I not build muscle and burn fat regardless of the caloric intake?
I assure you that my current program is temporary until my BF goal is reached, but I would love some "scientific" type information that would explain the portions I am missing or have overlooked.
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2004/01/19, 12:43 PM
The scientific explanations are here. You will just have to do some research. BB1 has written extensively on the subject. I have been confounded by the logic too. I have proven to myself that too much of a caloric deficit ceases weight loss/ muscle building. I ate below my RM for several months and made no progress. After upping my calories gradually I got to the point that I saw results I wanted.
At my age building large amounts of muscle doesn't happen without drastic methods . My BF % has gone down slowly but steadily for months now. I can't scientifically explain why but I have read it here . I had to fit all the pieces together gradually.
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Living well is the best revenge.
Charlie
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2004/01/19, 12:46 PM
Sorry, I am not avoiding your carb question. What I have gathered is that assuming your fat intake is under control, carbs are where you make gradual adjustments on a cutting diet.
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Living well is the best revenge.
Charlie
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2004/01/19, 01:09 PM
If no carbs are availible will the body use protein stores as fuel, meaning can you body break down proteins as fuel and will it do so before it uses body fat or muscle as it source?
It makes sense to me for instance, if you have a low level of carbs in your system and an abundace of proteins, the body will break down proteins and body fat before it goes after lean muscle.
Is this true?
Or would the body rather use muscle and dispose of the protein stores?
I could rally use bb1fit's help here :)
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2004/01/23, 01:53 PM
Any ideas?
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2004/01/23, 10:30 PM
BB1, carivan??
Bump
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2005/04/17, 11:15 AM
can some one please give me a real good workout and a good diet schedule coz i am lookin to cut down and gain a lean body
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2005/04/20, 08:52 AM
While carbohydrate causes the pancreas to secrete insulin, protein causes it to secrete a different and opposing hormone called glucagon. Glucagon is a mobilization hormone. When blood sugar drops, glucagon acts to release glycogen from the liver to furnish blood sugar to the brain. Glucagon also increases the release of fat from fat cells for use as energy. When insulin and glucagon are in balance, our fuel systems run smoothly, and we aren't bothered by insatiable food cravings...The important thing to remember here is that this is not a high protein, low carbohydrate diet. It is a balanced diet.... High protein diets can be dangerous. Because of the production of abnormal biochemicals called ketones, the body immediately flushes them out through increased urination. Although this is weight loss, it is not fat loss...Water weight lost is also due to the fact that protein and fat hold less water than carbs do... Later because so little carbohydrate is eaten, the body develops a physiological state called ketosis in which muscle begins to be torn down in an attempt to provide blood sugar to the brain.
Furthermore, when too much protein is eaten, the body secretes insulin and turns it into fat. There has been recent research indicating that high-protein, ketogenic diets may cause changes in the fat cells, which make them ten times more effective in storing fat than before the diet!
PAT
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2005/04/29, 07:49 AM
And ketones are sometimes used to cure some forms of epilepsy. i knew a 4 year old girl that was on a high fat ketone diet to cure her 15 fits a day.
If ketones dampened her neural activity to that extent - whats it doing to you!
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