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Is there anything better than cell-tech?

JustinE22 Posts: 1,312 Joined: 2003/09/18	2004/02/12, 07:43 PM I was talking to a buddy and he said he likes the results of cell-tech so i was thinking of getting a tub, but i was looking at the ingredients and it said it contains 45g of surgar and that sounds like alot. Right now I'm taking AST's micronized creatine HSC and am not toally impressed with this product. I am probably going to switch over but my question is, is there anything superior to cell-tech?
jsom85 Posts: 316 Joined: 2004/01/16	2004/02/12, 08:00 PM Celltech is a great product that will work with out a doubt. However, it is entirely too overpriced. Its not worth shelling out huge bucks for it. I always get great results with just plain monohydrate. Nothing fancy. But if you want to get cell tech i reccomend this site which shows how to make your own... http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/muscletech-cell-tech-homemade.htm you'll save a bundle for more servings of the same stuff.
JustinE22 Posts: 1,312 Joined: 2003/09/18	2004/02/12, 11:30 PM how good is the homemade stuff compared to cell-tech will i get the same results? or would cell-tech provide better results
JustinE22 Posts: 1,312 Joined: 2003/09/18	2004/02/12, 11:37 PM well 1-AD or cell-tech?
jsom85 Posts: 316 Joined: 2004/01/16	2004/02/13, 12:32 AM Justine, i dont know for sure. Sorry, but maybe there is another member here who has done it. But i'm not a celltech user, i just stick with my monohydrate. But i've heard bb1 talk about just adding dextrose to creatine monohydrate for the insulin spike so it can fully work. Essentially that is what you are buying when you buy celltech, you're buying an added insulin spike. bb1, or any of the other moderators, would definatly know more about the dextrose and homade celltech i would assume.
ckavsinba Posts: 50 Joined: 2002/07/17	2004/02/13, 08:02 AM do a search about it justin, i came across a post about a week ago where bb1 and a couple other guys talk about it..
big_j_scf Posts: 308 Joined: 2003/11/08	2004/02/13, 09:33 AM cell tech and 1-ad are completely different things.; 1 ad is a pro hormone and cell tech is creatine and sugar.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2004/02/13, 10:25 AM Cheapest and easiest thing to do, mix 1/2 mixture of dextrose/maltodextrin with your protein, take in creatine by itself on the side, and voia'. You can buy dextrose(2 lb. for about 6 dollars, and malto, 2 lbs. for about $1.50. Creatine costs about 12 or so. Carbohydrate sources that digest quickly and increase insulin levels are most optimal, and even more so when coupled with protein sources such as hydrolyzed whey, as the two have a synergistic effect. The two prime carbohydrates for achieving this goal are a 50/50 mixture of Dextrose (Glucose) and Maltodextrin. Together these two sources of energy will provide the ultimate anabolic fusion, add creatine on the side, and you have Cell tech and more. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
JustinE22 Posts: 1,312 Joined: 2003/09/18	2004/02/13, 10:54 AM Is creapure creatine by pro lab better than cell tech?
R_Mitty Posts: 54 Joined: 2003/08/29	2004/02/13, 04:50 PM I used the homemade stuff and it works fairly good. I've never used actual cell tech though. I wasn't using creatine with it for the first 3 weeks, just dextrose and protein after a work out. More gains doing this than any other product I've tried.
Sigmarsson Posts: 11 Joined: 2004/01/23	2004/02/14, 07:32 AM Is it ok to mix protein, dextrose, malto and creatine in your post workout shake, or should I take it seperately?
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2004/02/14, 09:12 AM It is fine, but I would take my creatine on the side. See, you want to chug half your drink, then sip the rest for the better part of an hour. Creatine does not stay stable in a liquid for very long, turns inot a waste product, creatinine in a very short period of time. So you should take it as soon as you mix it. I would do it about 20 min. into your post workout drink, along with your glutamine if you are using it, as you should have high levels of insulin circulating by then. This by the way is also a good time to take some Vit. C and any other antioxidant as your system is in a supercharge mode, and ready to absorb anything you throw at it. Good time to boost the immune system. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
Sigmarsson Posts: 11 Joined: 2004/01/23	2004/02/14, 10:17 AM Thanks bb1 youre the greatest
Smalls Posts: 33 Joined: 2003/01/13	2004/02/16, 03:32 AM Hey good post bb1. Thanks for the advice.
ssminnow Posts: 284 Joined: 2004/02/16	2004/02/17, 08:06 AM Anyone know where to get a measurement spoon to measure out the 5 or 10 grams for the homeade stuff? I know I can convert it to teaspoon or tablespoon, but they are not even conversions.
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2004/02/17, 10:19 AM 1 tbsp.=3 tsp. 1 tsp.=5 gr. 1 oz.= 30 gr. 8 oz.= 1 cup 1 cup= 16tbsp. For instance if you needed 75 gr. of simple carbs, you would need 38 gr. of each malto and dextrose. This would come out to 2.5 tbsp. of dextrose, and 6.4 tbsp. of malto. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything....
jtrejo56 Posts: 2 Joined: 2003/01/15	2004/03/16, 03:36 AM Just a quick question, Using this example numbers, How would the tbsp. amount be different for dext. and malto. when the amount of grams you are trying to get from each is equal (38g each). ============ Quoting from bb1fit: 1 tbsp.=3 tsp. 1 tsp.=5 gr. 1 oz.= 30 gr. 8 oz.= 1 cup 1 cup= 16tbsp. For instance if you needed 75 gr. of simple carbs, you would need 38 gr. of each malto and dextrose. This would come out to 2.5 tbsp. of dextrose, and 6.4 tbsp. of malto. =============
jtrejo56 Posts: 2 Joined: 2003/01/15	2004/03/16, 03:37 AM Just a quick question, Using this example numbers, How would the tbsp. amount be different for dext. and malto. when the amount of grams you are trying to get from each is equal (38g each). ============ Quoting from bb1fit: 1 tbsp.=3 tsp. 1 tsp.=5 gr. 1 oz.= 30 gr. 8 oz.= 1 cup 1 cup= 16tbsp. For instance if you needed 75 gr. of simple carbs, you would need 38 gr. of each malto and dextrose. This would come out to 2.5 tbsp. of dextrose, and 6.4 tbsp. of malto. =============
bb1fit Posts: 11,105 Joined: 2001/06/30	2004/03/16, 09:54 AM The density of each is different. -------------- If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.... bb1fit@freetrainers.com
ssminnow Posts: 284 Joined: 2004/02/16	2004/03/16, 12:01 PM hey bb1fit, how did u come up with those numbers? 2.5 and 6.4? more math, here we go, good thing we have people like you on this board!! -------------- Don\'t sweat what you have no control over... WILL IT MATTER IN A HUNDRED YEARS....
davisp Posts: 313 Joined: 2002/10/26	2004/07/14, 07:24 PM Although the question has been answered, I'll throw my .02 cents in on cell tech. While deployed on the USS George Washington in 2002, I bought cell-tech's creatine on the ship and used it during that deployment. The results were much greater :dumbbell: using creatine monohydrate (with the Creapure stamp) 20 minutes into sipping bb1's mixture mentioned above. Cell-tech provided very little results in comparison. However, everyone's body is different. -------------- Motivation is nothing more than being proactive. - Paul