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clt
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2004/06/21, 11:21 AM
this is very important, had unprotected intercourse with my new girl friend, she started the pill a month ago, we only did this once, but i know it only takes one time also, what are the chances, i mean she was on the pill for a month, what do you guys think, because i am very worried right now!!!!!!!!!!!!! so what do you think?
hecdarec
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2004/06/21, 11:35 AM
I think you should have used a condom.

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clt
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2004/06/21, 11:40 AM
i know i know! i really should have
clt
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2004/06/21, 11:45 AM
anyone eles?
Anni313
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2004/06/21, 11:45 AM
The combination birth control pill, according to the Mayo Clinc website, has a 95% average effective rate when taken correctly. This means that even when taken correctly it has a 5% failure rate.

Judging from your level of anxiety I think that unprotected sex is not a good option. You might as well relax because she probably isn't pregnant. But do give serious consideration to using a condom until you are ready to accept the possible responsibility of a child.

If you always use a condom you greatly reduce the possibility of pregnancy even if your partner isn't doing her part to prevent it. Just something to think about.

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hecdarec
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2004/06/21, 11:49 AM
Also be sure to pull out.

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ATIGER
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2004/06/21, 12:05 PM
Happy belated fathers day clt
Ldee82
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2004/06/21, 12:07 PM
I don't think you have anything to worry about. A month I believe is enough time. Why don't you tell her to get on the patch? It is way better than the pill, and she only has to change it on a weekly basis. It's 99% accurate. I've been on it for a year and I've had no problems and no babies.:laugh:
Ldee82
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2004/06/21, 12:07 PM
I don't think you have anything to worry about. A month I believe is enough time. Why don't you tell her to get on the patch? It is way better than the pill, and she only has to change it on a weekly basis. It's 99% accurate. I've been on it for a year and I've had no problems and no babies.:laugh:
clt
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2004/06/21, 12:14 PM
thanks a tiger, alot!
Anni313
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2004/06/21, 12:19 PM
The patch has a 95-99% effective rate when taken correctly.

I think that when effectiveness is statistically high that people forget about the women for whom it was not or may not be effective. If 100 women use a birth control method that is, we'll say 96% effective, 4 of those women will become pregnant.

If you are not ready for a child, please just always use a condom. Why is that a difficult decision?

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ATIGER
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2004/06/21, 12:21 PM
Sorry just a bad joke ( good joke just bad timing ). I have been in the same siutation and it is not fun. Hopefully, you have nothing to worry about. If you make it by this time, remember the feeling and it will prevent the same from happening again. It did for me. Hope there is no hard feelings
clt
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2004/06/21, 12:24 PM
na man theres not, i just have a bad temper, sorry man.
ATIGER
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2004/06/21, 12:26 PM
I deserved it.
dfly411
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2004/06/21, 01:17 PM
Truth is that a woman can only get pregnant if she is ovulating or close to it at the time of unprotected sex. Even if she were not on BC AND she was ovulating, there would only be roughly a 25% chance that it would happen. So, I say you should relax.

I also say that you should strap it up unless you are in a long term and serious relationship.
jniday1
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2004/06/21, 01:29 PM
Hey clt, first things first. My wife has been on a number of forms of birth control. Many of them state to take at least 18 days before having unprotected sex. So I think your safe there.

Second, always put 100% trust in yourself, not your partner (especially if you don't want a kid coming out). You know when your putting on a condom...you don't know if she is taking her birth control "religiously". Anything could happen to make her forget a pill here or there. I'm not saying that one pill will make a difference, but it is only as effective as thebox states if taken correctly.
burrocfh
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2004/06/21, 01:46 PM
Ok, maybe this is a little dumb to ask (I guess), but now that we are talking about unprotected sex, pregnancy possibilities and so... some time ago I read that the 10 days before and after the period are the "safest" days for having unprotected sex (and I'm not encouraging to have it either... always use a condom)

Any comments on this?

-r.
DanielJLove
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2004/06/21, 02:11 PM
There is no truly "safe period". Women can, for no good reason, double ovulate, change schedule or take a long time to travel the fallopian tube. All of these are rare, but possible. Just play it safe.

Daniel
clt
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2004/06/21, 02:21 PM
thank you all very much, i am going to relax, and i will play it safe next time. thank you.

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Anni313
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2004/06/21, 02:23 PM
Women can and do lie about taking their birth control pills. I cannot imagine why any man, especially an intelligent, good looking, single man with a future, would trust any woman on this subject.

Wrap it up or put it up.

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goodoldtex
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2004/06/21, 02:41 PM
This is the low down on the 'safe time' thing mentioned above. Theoretically there should be. But however we are all humans so flukes happen and you can end up sh!t creek without a paddle...here's how it goes.

A super-sperm can live up to a MAX of 7 days. Regular sperm live only about 3-5 days. However the woman's body is very hostile to the sperm...there are certain factors that must be right for pregnancy such as pH, temp, etc. okay that said: If a womans cycle is short (19-21 days versus normal 28 day cycle) that 'safe time' is not true. If she double ovulates that 'safe time' is nixed.

For some women it's very hard to get pregnant (even off bc)...but some women are baby machines.

Combined efforts are the best form of birth control (condom + bc works pretty damned well. Condom + bc + pulling out works even better. Wetsuit + no penetration = impossible to get her pregnant and to get wood. no sex = safe sex) Dont worry i'm not preaching that you can't have sex because trust me...i've been down that line. I had sex first when i was 17. But i did a lot of research on this kinda stuff...so i knew to be safe.

Single efforts can work but are also risky (condom = 80% effective. Birth Control = 95% effective if she is RELIGIOUS about taking it. pulling out = 20% effective...and sometimes not effective at all because your pre-ejaculate can have sperm in it)

Just be safe next time...take matters into your own hands (i'm not saying jack off i mean wrap it)
Anni313
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2004/06/21, 02:45 PM
Baby machines?

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goodoldtex
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2004/06/21, 02:46 PM
okay don't take that the bad way, i didn't mean it personality etc wise anni...i word things awkwardly sometiems...i mean they're VERY fertile...
Anni313
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2004/06/21, 02:52 PM
A man who knows when to genuflect and apologize is a good thing. You are forgiven.:love:

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hecdarec
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2004/06/21, 03:11 PM
Dr. Hardy, I was suggesting that he pull out on top of the advice that Anni gave him. You know to help reduce the risk even more.

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Hec, if he hasn't got the self-control to use a condom then he doesn't have the control to "pull out". Furthermore that is a VERY VERY poor method of birth control that only partly reduces the risk of pregnancy.
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hecdarec
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2004/06/21, 07:51 PM
Respect is earned my friend.

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david_s81
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2004/06/21, 07:56 PM
Do you think his g/f would still look hot with a patch. I mean, I saw this girl with a glass eye one time, but never one with a patch. Maybe the pirate look could be another method of birth control.

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The patch has a 95-99% effective rate when taken correctly.

I think that when effectiveness is statistically high that people forget about the women for whom it was not or may not be effective. If 100 women use a birth control method that is, we'll say 96% effective, 4 of those women will become pregnant.

If you are not ready for a child, please just always use a condom. Why is that a difficult decision?


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Anni313
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2004/06/21, 08:30 PM
I think she would look hotter with a patch AND a glass eye than she would with a baby.

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dfly411
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2004/06/21, 08:59 PM
B...I would imagine that you are the guy sitting in the corner of the room, you know the one. It's you, isn't it?
hecdarec
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2004/06/21, 11:15 PM
Bhardy are you obsessed with trying to get one over on people? Are you that much of a loser?

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hecdarec
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2004/06/21, 11:31 PM
I am sure that you have the analyzation charts already set up. Lets see of Hec's 1114 posts 974 of them have been sarcastic. 104 of them have been direct pot shots at me. 500 of them have been down right mean. HAHA you kill me dude.

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2004/06/21, 11:44 PM
B, Hec does have a sharp wit. He uses it well. It looks to me like you started this one. Hec also posts on fitness issues. I can't remember a post by you pertaining to fitness. Now go workout. Have one of those special protein shakes you told us all about.

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hecdarec
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2004/06/22, 12:07 AM
If you weren't so focused on trying to one up everybody you would have read where I said that my advice to his pulling out was in addition to the advice that anni gave him. I called you Dr Hardy because you blatantly attacked my advice. Go back and read your condescending post. Look within yourself. As for the homophobic remarks, I already was the bigger man and apologized to you for that. Obviously you still cannot let it go. As you said you remember everything that people post, and you throw it back at them in later posts. You are a sad sad little man and if I were in Canada I would smack you in the mouth.

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Vedakathryn
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2004/06/22, 12:07 AM
Whew....I'm having an anxiety attack, oxygen anyone?

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JustATadSkinny
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2004/06/22, 12:12 AM
Hec,Dfly,Charlie and whomever else wants a conflict with me, I am not interested. Nor, am I interested in your opinion of me. I will from this point onwards restrict my comments to fitness issues and let the rest of you deal with the social issues. The end.
hecdarec
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2004/06/22, 12:14 AM
Who are you?

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hecdarec
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2004/06/22, 12:18 AM
You probably are expensive fast

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hecdarec
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2004/06/22, 12:18 AM
Best advice you have given.

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dfly411
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2004/06/22, 06:42 AM
No, I'm the weird girl standing off by herself trying to figure out what makes the other people tick. But, at least I can admit it.

B, who says that this was a "shot" at you anyway? I was just handing out some sarcasm, like you always do. Apparently you can only dish and not take.

What I can't figure out is why you take EVERYTHING as an insult??? You do spend the majority of your time expessing the opposing/debateable view on things, just like the "man in the corner"...and then you don't want to debate. I have told you before, I know there are enough ways in the world for everybody to have one, and I respect your argumentitive spirit.

I learned a long time ago that when one's personality is different and they usually walk BEHIND the band wagon, stepping in horse shit is inevidable.

You should accept the same.

fsdsk
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2004/06/22, 06:58 AM
Hec, Dfly, Charlie - you guys are hysterical. I look forward to your posts. I avoid posting on some of your more sarcastic threads simply because I could never keep up with you guys - I would get absolutly slaughtered! Bhardy - face it, you are "one upped" and move on. Dfly is right, everyone here has a different personality you need to learn how to deal with them if you are going to hang here.

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hecdarec
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2004/06/22, 07:09 AM
I admit that I do have a bit of weird sarcasm, sometimes I am a bit blunt, and it may not come off the way it is intended on the computer, but I am humble and I will admit if I am wrng, or apologize if I offend anyone. The thing about bhardy is that he is sort of always lurking, waiting to attack and he uses every post that you ever made against you. He doesn't do it an a playful manner. He does it in a condescending manner, he tries to make you feel stupid. I can appreciate a friendly, sarcastic debate. Hell I can handle someone having a laugh at my expense, but I do not like to be attacked and belittled. Go up this post and read his response to my "sarcastic" advice. It was as if he were talking to a four year old. Then when he and my wife got into their little debate he came back and threw my name into it. When he couldn't figure out anything else to say, he was going to log in under another name and continue the argument. That is sad to me. I am done venting. I hope that the moderators ban me for life for being a bully.

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fsdsk
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2004/06/22, 07:12 AM
where is asimmer? she seems to be the only one here that keeps you in line.:laugh:
7707mutt
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2004/06/22, 07:50 AM
Ok ok ok enough insult throwing you guys! Geez I get busy at work and look what happens LOL. Lets keep it nice. No one is getting banned Hec! And Bhardy take a step back and relax......thanks

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hecdarec
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2004/06/22, 07:58 AM
Mutt promise me that you will not wrap your pythons around my neck until I am blue in the face.

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7707mutt
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2004/06/22, 08:02 AM
Only if you ask me nicely!:big_smile:

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Anni313
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2004/06/22, 08:04 AM
Hi Mutt! What are you working on?

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7707mutt
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2004/06/22, 08:09 AM
I am in sales I am a inside sales rep for ADP and my month (for commission) ends today and if I do not hit 100% of my goal I could get fired....so I have been busy....

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Anni313
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2004/06/22, 08:18 AM
Perhaps you should try to sell US something. Is that a PopTart on your desk?

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asimmer
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2004/06/22, 09:44 AM
hec - no one can look down on you unless you feel you are les than they.
bhardy - you belong.

All of you - play nice or sit in seperate corners.

It is disheartening to see this site go from a great place to learn things about health and fitnessa dn find motivation and support to a place where people are sniping at each other.

Humor is appreciated, sarcasm is funny when it doesn't get too hard and personal.

Hec and bhardy - do 20 pushups, look in the mirror and repeat "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and people like me".



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hecdarec
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2004/06/22, 10:22 AM
1 He started it
2 I am not stupid
3 Asimmer is mean
4 People better like me or else I will cry
5 I dont care if people like me
6 Charlie touched me in a bad place
7 I am a good person
8 Sorry bhardy
9 getting tired
10 Mutt let go I cant breathe
11 My triceps hurt
12 bhardy hurt my feelings
13 I am human when I get cut I bleed
14 I have 14 tattoos
15 Asimmer please stop standing over me and yelling
16 Should I log this in as a workout?
17 almost there
18 Charlie please get from behind me
19 Dfly see what you started!
20 Dammit CLT use a damn condom already!

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