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Martial arts

assante74
assante74
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2003/05/01, 11:27 AM
I was wondering do different type of martial arts require different type of workout programs?
ageis
ageis
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2003/05/01, 02:25 PM
Basically different types of martial arts itself are different types of workouts. Each has it's own style and approach. If you mean by working out in the gym.... no.

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oxdp954
oxdp954
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2003/05/01, 03:48 PM
I disagree with ageis on this one. Would a boxer train in the same manner as a wrestler? Would a dancer train in the same way as a swimmer? The martial arts are so diverse. Speaking as a person who practices different forms of martial arts (Brazilian Ju-Jitsu, Judo, Muai Thai kick boxing, JKD) strength is an intergral part of the Martial arts. Just different kinds of strength for each kind of martial art.

Ju-Jitsu requires a kind of power similar to wrestling mixed with abserd amounts of endurance. I've had Ju-Jitsu matches last 45 min.
Muai Thai requires short bursts of strength and power. Rounds last anywere from 2-4 minutes and there are usually 2-5 rds. But can be ended at anytime by a ko.
Judo requires yet another form of strength and edurance. One great move and its over.

All of these martial arts have one thing in common, you must have great abdominal strength in order to be good at them.

Hope I answered your question


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assante74
assante74
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2003/05/01, 05:30 PM
The reason that I was asking "oxdp954" is that I just found my calling and it is CAPOEIRA. I have tried other martial arts and I didn't right after them like I do this one. I was wondering what exercises should I use to enhance my effectiveness with this martial art?
skinnyrobin
skinnyrobin
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2003/05/01, 06:17 PM
just for the record, why is abdominal strengh so important to be good at martial arts?
oxdp954
oxdp954
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2003/05/01, 07:22 PM
Skinnyrobin that is a great question. The reason abdominal strenghth is key to being a good martial artist is ,just like in other sports, your abs are the core of your body. Many movements in the martial arts, especially Ju-Jistu and Judo, require alot of hip rotation. And the force generated from your hips come from your abs. In addition, ask Mike Tyson if his punches are stronger because he works his abs. Better yet ask someone who can complete a sentence. Also, when getting hit in the stomach I know that having a strong core helps absorb some of the punishment.

As far as Capoeira, if I remember my martial arts correctly, you absolutely have to have great ab strength. All of the gymnastic ability required for that martial art...man. Also, I'd really focus on your endurance. Capoeira is not a one shot one kill type martial art. Its constant movement. Your best bet would be to ask a Capoeira instructor what he would suggest. But you really really don't want to get bulky. Aim for more of a light weight boxer bodystyle not a body builder style. A work out with higher reps lower weight. And you might want to consider circuit training. It works for boxers, and its what I do when traing for Muai Thai.

Good luck with Capoeira! Stick with it. If it came easy it would not be worth while!

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ageis
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2003/05/01, 09:09 PM
I'm scratching my head on this one. oxdp954, you sure you read my reply? I'm not starting anything but I just said that various martial arts have their own style and approach according to workout programs itself. Boxer and wrestler, dancer and swimmer are totally different sports. Martial arts and all its styles are all within the same sport which is "martial arts". You do bring up great points though about kinetic movement and from that, I've learned something too.
It's good to have bumped into another person that takes up a variety of martial arts. I mean this in all good intentions. Take care man.

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oxdp954
oxdp954
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2003/05/02, 12:09 PM
Ageis the message I was trying to get across was this, you can and should train for different martial arts differently. Yes Martial arts all have a common thread, but so do track events, and I wouldn't train for the long jump in the same manner I would train for the 1600m.

And as far as weight training goes, an indvidual should train differently based on their particular martial art. Squating 440 lbs wouldn't really benifit an individual who practices Tai Chi, it would be a great accompishment though. I also wouldn't expect an individual who practices Ju-Jitsu to work on his foot speed and explosiveness. I understand your point about different martial arts themselves having different work outs, I'm in total agreement with you. I'm just saying that if you want to supplement your martial arts training by strength training then just think about what type of martial art you are practicing, and adjust accordingly.

Ageis to each his own. This website is for the betterment of its readers. I welcome any questions and differing opinions. That is how we learn after all. I take nothing said by anyone on this site as personal. Its pure education man.

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Justin

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