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Midnight shake

Sweeny Posts: 120 Joined: 2001/07/26	2002/05/21, 11:45 AM I know that many recommend having a protein shake in the middle of the night to keep your body fueled with protein, but do you think this is a good idea when cutting? ---------------------------- Matt Sweeny, Athlete and Bodybuilder
lewdog_55 Posts: 383 Joined: 2002/01/23	2002/05/21, 08:26 PM I dont know about in the cut phase. I have been doing this for the past 2 weeks and have seen an increase of 5lbs. Anyone else know about his question??? -------------- "Imagine what you could do, if you could do what you imagine."
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/05/22, 11:02 AM Whether or not you're cutting, you need to maintain your overall protein intake. -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
jsambu Posts: 34 Joined: 2001/01/23	2002/05/22, 11:19 AM well if you re trying to get cut, then that means that you prolly want to have a neg cal expenditure at the end of the day. so if you eat protein at night, then most likely it is going to turn into fat.
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/05/22, 11:25 AM Jsambu, don't know where you get your facts from, but protein does not turn into fat! Carbohydrates can turn into fat if consumed in larger quantities than the body can burn as fuel. -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
qualters Posts: 343 Joined: 2002/04/21	2002/05/22, 10:05 PM Now thats a scary thought, imagine if that was true about protein turning to fat Steriods (helps with protein synthesis) would have made Levrone, Wheeler, Yates, big balls of fat! Protein is what builds muscle.
Philia2 Posts: 4,078 Joined: 2001/10/19	2002/05/23, 02:18 AM Just one thing about a midnight protein shake you should all know....... No, it'll not make you fat IF you are considering the calories of your shake into your daily total calorie intake. Don't forget that loosing/gaining weight is all about calories. If I ate 4000 cal of proteins daily (and nothing else!!) and I only need 2000 then oh yes, the proteins will still be able to make me gain fat (part of the gluconeogenisis). BUT it's true that the body prefers to take carbs (glycogenolysis) as source and hide those small buggers into our fat cells. A protein intake during the night should be okey. Why not just try it and see how your body responds. -------------- - Nina :o) La vie est toujours aussi belle.....
jsambu Posts: 34 Joined: 2001/01/23	2002/05/23, 11:17 AM hey rpacheco i thought you said that protein doesnt turn into fat. i think philia2 just clarified that situation. it all has to do with your total cal intake.
qualters Posts: 343 Joined: 2002/04/21	2002/05/23, 04:39 PM I know protein will never turn to fat, thats a fact.
jsambu Posts: 34 Joined: 2001/01/23	2002/05/25, 09:29 PM Qualters you re not serious are you? so what your saying is that if i eat like 500 grams of protein a day none of it turns into fat? im sorry but your completey incorrect about that fact, protein does turn into fat.
qualters Posts: 343 Joined: 2002/04/21	2002/05/25, 11:04 PM YES! it will be used as energy but not stored as fat..LOOK AT THE ATKINS DIET!
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2002/05/25, 11:44 PM Man, i can't beleive all of the misinformation that gets thrown around here. I intake twice my weight in protein and no, it sure as hell isn't turned into fat. Some of you guys need to research topics before you go and dispense advice. I know i have. I am going to school for this stuff.
klb331 Posts: 8 Joined: 2002/05/20	2002/05/28, 04:47 PM HUH? Wait a second here... A gram of protein has an average of 4 calories. So is someone saying that if you eat nothing but protein and exceed your body's caloric needs that none of that will be stored as fat? Excess calories are (for the most part) stored as fat. I am pretty sure that's more of less a fact of nature. That protein can't turn into fat goes against common sense... dahayz, were you saying you did or didn't agree that proteins can be stored as fat??
klb331 Posts: 8 Joined: 2002/05/20	2002/05/28, 04:51 PM Message deleted by moderator due to unsuitable content for this board.
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/05/28, 05:15 PM Opinions are like (deleted explitive) because everyone has one... I don't see Doctor ahead of anyones name. That's one of the most annoying things about sports medicine is everyone has an opinion that they argue against all the others. Here's a better question.. why on Earth would anyone comsume only protein?? The day that happens you should worry about whether or not it will result in fat gains. -------------- And my soul must be iron, because my fear is naked. I'm naked and fearless.
rpacheco Posts: 3,770 Joined: 2001/12/13	2002/05/28, 05:50 PM ============ Quoting from jsambu: hey rpacheco i thought you said that protein doesnt turn into fat. i think philia2 just clarified that situation. it all has to do with your total cal intake. ============= Jsambu, if you read what Nina actually wrote, it's the calories that will turn into fat...not the protein itself. All protein shakes have a fair amount of calories to consider in your daily diet. Anyway, where's Michael the chemist? He should have his 2 cents on this one... -------------- **_Robert_** Pain is temporary; glory is forever!
klb331 Posts: 8 Joined: 2002/05/20	2002/05/28, 05:57 PM What I was trying to say was that if all your calories came from protein (which no one would do but for the sake of the example) it wouldn't matter where the calories came from. Calories are calories and too many of them equal storage. sorry that example didn't make more sense. ============ Quoting from Cainsands: Here's a better question.. why on Earth would anyone comsume only protein?? The day that happens you should worry about whether or not it will result in fat gains. ============ =============
qualters Posts: 343 Joined: 2002/04/21	2002/05/28, 05:57 PM This topic is really turing into a heated discussion. What If I only ate fat, like krispy kreme dounuts? Meanig all I consumed was krispy kreme donuts. Would my body have to change and resort to using ths fat from the donuts to build muscle ect......LOL I am so sure that protein will not turn to fat, I will take this belief to my grave......LOL I am gonna try the donut thing for awhile, wish me luck! BQ
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/05/28, 07:35 PM LOL@ QUALTERS!! I'm going to try eating nothing Tuna and see if I turn into a fish! -------------- And my soul must be iron, because my fear is naked. I'm naked and fearless.
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2002/05/28, 09:43 PM In the end, it's all about preference. If u can consume nothing but protein and not gain fat, excellent. People can do that. If you are afraid of gaining fat from eating lots of protein, then DON'T DO IT. It's all about preference.
Lumina20 Posts: 966 Joined: 2001/10/31	2002/05/28, 09:54 PM That Krispy Kreme diet sounds like a winner, sign me up!
Philia2 Posts: 4,078 Joined: 2001/10/19	2002/05/29, 01:48 AM Proteins will NOT turn into fat if YOU HAVE A NEED FOR IT!!!!! Geez.... Okey, forgot the calories but still...... guys, it's so simple. Imagine a big weight lifter and then a nice little lady who never moves more than a few meters daily. Well if those two completely different people eat 600gr of proteins daily, now what will happen?!!!!! The weight lifter will use the proteins to repair and build up his muscles but our small little lady will turn fat as the potato she's imiting on the couch. Now, you nice people in here DID YOU GET IT NOW?!!!!!! You cannot say stupid things as "oh, I'm suuuuure that proteins will NEVER turn into fat and that's a fact" etc 'cause the human body is able to do a lot more than you ever can imagine AND every darn people is different!!!!! Come on, open up your eyes and dahayz from reading your first not-very-nice-letter I'll just say one thing: you go back to school. Now, let's move on! -------------- - Nina :o) La vie est toujours aussi belle.....
dahayz Posts: 794 Joined: 2002/05/08	2002/05/29, 08:36 AM Well, i am sorry we can't all be experts on this subject philia2. I'm still trying to figure out why i would need to go back to school though. I mean, I am not even finished yet.
lewdog_55 Posts: 383 Joined: 2002/01/23	2002/05/29, 09:10 PM Amen Nina!!!! -------------- "Imagine what you could do, if you could do what you imagine."
qualters Posts: 343 Joined: 2002/04/21	2002/05/31, 05:06 PM Is there a Doctor in the house? I am still not convinced that protein can become blumber, ohh well. Time to go have another krispy kreme. Maybe if I just eat Tuna for awhile, I can turn into a fish, then I can swim to the frige to get my krispy kreme donuts! Good idea CAINSANDS LOL BQ
Boddhisattvha Posts: 1,226 Joined: 2002/03/07	2002/05/31, 05:44 PM Cain is no longer available for comment. Some two days ago he turned into a fish and was sold at the third street pet store to a chinese food store owner... -------------- And my soul must be iron, because my fear is naked. I'm naked and fearless.
Mathiau Posts: 72 Joined: 2002/07/20	2002/07/24, 12:52 AM ^^^^ ROTFL!! that was funny. -------------- (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯The trouble with life is there’s no background music¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯Some people are alive only because it’s illegal to kill them¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯God must love stupid people, he made so many of them¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯Life ain't short, your just dead for too frick'n dam long!`·.¸¸.·´¯) (¯`·.¸¸They know what is what, but they don't know what is what, they just strut,WTF!¸.·´¯)
oscarg Posts: 198 Joined: 2004/04/05	2004/08/08, 01:04 AM well... I just killed some time reading this thread. Why would someone think that protein turns into fat? the facts are... If one were to eat too much protein it would not matter because any protein consumed other then what your body needs will end up in the toilet and not into fat cells. And if your not using it to repair muscles then it will be a source of fuel. I felt I needed to contribute something. -my .02 -------------- \"The path to added muscle is consuming more calories than the amount needed to keep your current bodyweight unchanged.\" oscarg@freetrainers.com Free iPods: freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=7557670