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mdubbs7
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2004/09/01, 12:44 AM
hey guys.....I am 6'5 205 lbs...to anybody who knows a lot about fitness i was just wondering if i was strong for my size...i am a tall skinny build. I max out benching at probably between 215 and 225. I can squat 250 probably 8-10 times, and i can prob curl 110 once or twice....am i too weake for my body type...cuz i hate being skinnny ...it sucks, and i know its my given body type and i cant change it...ne help would be great
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kakaroto
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2004/09/01, 09:22 AM
if you are "new" then yes, you are very strong.
how long have you being training for? strenght comes with workout too i am 17 amd lift max bench 315 squat 315 curl 110 6-8 times trainig for 2 1/2 years and thats prrtty strong |
bigandrew
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2004/09/01, 12:42 PM
Doesn't matter man, theres no linear curve for me to convey to you how your strength should increase, somtimes you can have a dry spell and not increase for several month, then boom! you'll max 20lbs higher for no reson. Yes, its true taller and skinner people have more trouble benching and squating, but still thats no excuse. I've relitivly short and stocky, however I can't bench worth a crap. But cause of my wide hips, and short torso, I can deadlift and squat well.
What I concider strong may not be what you concider strong. Theres weight room strength and functional strength......theres one rep strenght, and muscle endurance strength. I concider strength more than just, what you can bench press or curl, to me i'm sorry to say, or those people who manly want bragging rights. I mean come on in the olympics they don't have a max "curl", thats just and ego boost for some. True strength to me is full and over all strength, kakaroto threw in for no reason his maxes to show, 315 on bench is impresive, however, he squats the same amount, to me that isn't strength. YOu should easly be able to do 100+ lbs between lower and upper body lifts, concidering thats th erlargest muscles in your body are on your lower body! Unless you have a medical reason of coarse, messed up back, torn acl, but hell , I have come off injuries just as bad, and I can squat 450! Sorry this is really and answer you probably wanted to hear, but if its any consolation, your "strong":big_smile: -------------- if you kick a tiger in the @$$ , you then have to descide what to do with the teath end. any guy can hold a girl by the hand, but only the select few can hold her by her feet! |
davisp
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2004/09/01, 11:47 PM
mdubbs7, You can not change your body type, but you can change your body. A healthy diet and proper resistance program can make a difference.-------------- Seeking out motivation does not motivate you to seek out results. - Paul Post mark - SeptemberWW - Post mark |
mdubbs7
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2004/09/03, 12:17 AM
============ Quoting from bigandrew: True strength to me is full and over all strength, kakaroto threw in for no reason his maxes to show, 315 on bench is impresive, however, he squats the same amount, to me that isn't strength. YOu should easly be able to do 100+ lbs between lower and upper body lifts, concidering thats th erlargest muscles in your body are on your lower body! Unless you have a medical reason of coarse, messed up back, torn acl, but hell , I have come off injuries just as bad, and I can squat 450! Sorry this is really and answer you probably wanted to hear, but if its any consolation, your "strong":big_smile: ============= hahaha thanx..yeah i know i wasnt asking for how much HE lifts, lol...i juss wanted to know if im at a good strength/weight for my body type...its hard.... p.s.- im sdidnt post how much i lift to brag.......cuz i know ppl who can shit on that weight.......thats not a lot of weight at all...im juss playin collegate basketball next year and i dont know whether to cut-up and try to get quicker and play small forward, or whether i should try n bulk up and play power forward....im guessing with my body type, im better off tryna play a quick pos. cuz i have height, all i hafta do is get faster (yea i know plyometrics and all that)....thank you guys... |
boost1
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2004/09/03, 04:46 AM
LOL gotta agree with what bigandrew's comment, especially in regards to people having different opinions on what is "strong". Either way good luck on your choices!
BTW 315..not impressive if you yourself weigh 300 :laugh: |
2004/09/03, 12:22 PM
I say concentrate on quickness as opposed to mass, mdubbs. You can add mass to a point and still maintain your quickness (and even improve it) but for a 6'5" guy playing college ball, I'd always make agility the #1 priority. I suppose it all depends on your natural strengths and the type of player you are, though. You'll make the right decision.-------------- OSU Law Rugby....specializing in personal injury and pain & suffering. | |
bigandrew
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2004/09/03, 12:37 PM
Train fo ryour sport, I'm a cheerleader, so I have to train to be one. I can bodybuild A lil bit, but I always have to add some jerk cleans, one arm cleans and stuff into my routine, even though its not "bodybuilder" movements. You can always add some strength to yoru body, you can do that with out actully getting much bigger. Howvcer bulking up, it might slow you down. I'm not good a b- ball, i'm a short stocky white boy, with no ups lol.
Squats, jumping squats( big time), sprints, quick explosive benchpresses( for passing), tri cep extensions, some bicep work, abbs and deadlifts, well all help you in b-ball in one or more ways. -------------- if you kick a tiger in the @$$ , you then have to descide what to do with the teath end. any guy can hold a girl by the hand, but only the select few can hold her by her feet! |
bigandrew
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2004/09/03, 12:38 PM
also hamstring work, The longe ryour hamstrings can stretch greater your stride length, wich equals the faster you are. -------------- if you kick a tiger in the @$$ , you then have to descide what to do with the teath end. any guy can hold a girl by the hand, but only the select few can hold her by her feet! |
mdubbs7
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2004/09/04, 04:52 PM
emphasise on jumping squats (dont laugh)....lol....cuz i know it sounds self excplanitoory but i cannot picture someone doing it.....is it just jumping in a squating position...with weight?/without weight?
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bigandrew
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2004/09/07, 04:49 PM
do a squat( light weight) from that posiston jump! just like you would off the ground. squat, jump from that posiston around 45degrees-------------- if you kick a tiger in the @$$ , you then have to descide what to do with the teath end. any guy can hold a girl by the hand, but only the select few can hold her by her feet! |